PLEASE READ: Image posting - update June 2023

[tnman03]

Just for personal clarification, openly posted pictures, GIFs, or videos of images in violation of posting guidelines are prohibited just like always. But images hyperlinked to another host site allowable if they fall into the above categories?

 

[ToPleaseHim]

Just for personal clarification, openly posted pictures, GIFs, or videos of images in violation of posting guidelines are prohibited just like always. But images hyperlinked to another host site allowable if they fall into the above categories?

According to the rules as they are written? Those should be prohibited, too. I have asked for more clarification but haven’t gotten any yet. I’m continuing to moderate images as was last clarified to me a few years back with hyperlinked images hosted elsewhere being okay as long as they don’t depict underage (or potentially underage), bestiality, graphic or extremely violent sexual content.

 

[tnman03]

According to the rules as they are written? Those should be prohibited, too. I have asked for more clarification but haven’t gotten any yet. I’m continuing to moderate images as was last clarified to me a few years back with hyperlinked images hosted elsewhere being okay as long as they don’t depict underage (or potentially underage), bestiality, graphic or extremely violent sexual content.

Okay, I look forward to seeing what you get word back on. Obviously, the depiction of underage or questionable depictions as such is not only reprehensible but also illegal. You're doing a great service here as a moderator.

 

[Trekka]

Also related, a lot of sites are cracking down on adult content. States are making tighter regulations on what can be viewed in their state. I think restrictions because it’s sexual content are ridiculous. My personal concerns, and literally the reason I continue to mod here, surround personal safety. I don’t want kids posted here. I don’t want people having their nudes (or any photos) shared here without their consent. I also love the site and don’t want it to get in copyright trouble. But, I do think there’s a lot of gray area here.

It looks like there’s more CYA now in Lit’s legal verbiage since FOSTA/SESTA. And since the big forum overhaul.

The new forum interface makes it easier for users to upload their own photos to the Lit servers. So, that calls for increased vigilance. I love this site, and I try to protect it.

But this isn’t a huge change from what’s always been in place - it’s just been updated to jive with new laws plus a platform overhaul.

It’s common internet sense.

If i link to an image, the rules are looser. If i upload to Lit servers, the rules are tighter.

And if i post a pic here, either which way, i should make sure that it’s devoid of kids and bestiality and rape imagery. That’s about it.

There’s some grey areas, yeah, and some case by case stuff, but *waves* I’m a longtime reporter of photos of children, for example.

Sometimes people goof and post a pic of themselves and their kid and they just don’t know the rules. That’s different from posting kiddie porn. It’s case by case.

But it’s all done to protect the site from legal action, more or less, yeah?

I’d say a nice takeaway from this discussion is to read the rules before you use a new toy.

And thanks, TPH, for posting updated links and such to Lit’s copyright, legal info, and resources pages.

I’m a sucker for resources.

 

[jaF0]

It’s common internet sense.

If i link to an image, the rules are looser. If i upload to Lit servers, the rules are tighter.

There’s some grey areas, yeah, and some case by case stuff,

The grey areas are where we have a problem. According to the Lit rules verbatim, explicit image are only prohibited from being uploaded to Lit servers. Technically, according to those rules, they can be posted as links. But what is a link, or a linked image? Is a link a string that has to be clicked on to view the image? Is that also a linked image? Or is a linked image one that displays openly but is hosted on another site but still displays as a result of the Image tags? For the non- hardcore explicit stuff, that works OK.

But as I've been trying to get across lately, the hardcore stuff should be links only, so you have to click on them to see them. Why? Because not everyone viewing the site is at home on a private device with no one else looking over their shoulder. Suppose you're at work, or school, or have kids in the house and one of them walks in as an explicit image appears. Or using some kind of mobile thing while on a public transit vehicle.

We try to use discretion before editing or deleting a post. If more users did, we wouldn't have to.

 

[ToPleaseHim]

The rules specifically say that remote hosted images must follow all of the guidelines. The gray area is that this has never been the case here and when asked for clarification (years ago), the response was that linked images are okay but to remove extreme/illegal images. It’s confusing. So, it’s no wonder when folks think the mods are inconsistent or power hungry. I don’t think any of us are power hungry or intentionally inconsistent (we can’t see everything; we rely on reports), but we all volunteered to try to help keep things safer here. It would be great for folks to assume positive intent.

 

[Saltfountain]

Per the above, we do not allow the posting of hardcore, dick pics, vagina closeups, sex toys being used, etc.

Just to clarify, any pic with a dick in it breaks the rules, but only close up pics of vaginas?
Female nudity is fine as long as it's not hardcore pornographic, but male nudity is now banned?

 

[jaF0]

^^^^

It really isn't as complicated as some try to make it. Overall, it's quite clear



"lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area of any person."
https://www.literotica.com/faq/forum/forum-thread-picture-rules


To clarify: no, you cannot upload photos of your erect penis or wet pudenda, and you cannot upload photos that you found on the Internet.

(E) lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area of any person. We're talking about the close-ups, or any pictures where the genitals or pubic area is the center of attention, or part of any simulated masturbation. Artistic full nudes are fine, so long as they aren't spread shots and the person can't be masturbating or simulating masturbation

https://forum.literotica.com/threads/posting-images-update-please-read.1200735/



Softies can pass as a full frontal, but not as a close ups. No stiffies.

Full frontal females, but no OB-GYN shots.

 

[ToPleaseHim]

Just to clarify, any pic with a dick in it breaks the rules, but only close up pics of vaginas?
Female nudity is fine as long as it's not hardcore pornographic, but male nudity is now banned?

Are you suggesting a harsher crack down on images of nude women?

To answer, I do often remove images of gaping open vulva, of graphic sex, but not of a silhouette.

There’s lots of male nudity here that doesn’t get deleted. Save the dick pics for private messages, though.

 

[ToPleaseHim]

Thanks, @jaF0

 

[Saltfountain]

Are you suggesting a harsher crack down on images of nude women?

To answer, I do often remove images of gaping open vulva, of graphic sex, but not of a silhouette.

There’s lots of male nudity here that doesn’t get deleted. Save the dick pics for private messages, though.

Sigh, no, I wasn't asking for a harsher crackdown on anything
I just asked for clarification. Apologies

 

[ToPleaseHim]

Sigh, no, I wasn't asking for a harsher crackdown on anything
I just asked for clarification. Apologies

What JaF0 pasted above is directly from the rules and they’ve been written as such for many years.

The real only gray area exists in hotlinking and what’s okay as long as the images are hosted elsewhere.

 

[Saltfountain]

What JaF0 pasted above is directly from the rules and they’ve been written as such for many years.

The real only gray area exists in hotlinking and what’s okay as long as the images are hosted elsewhere.

I was only checking because your post was specific about dicks weren't acceptable, and vaginas were as long as they weren't close up.

I was just trying to make sure I was understanding you correctly, and it seems I wasn't.

Again, I apologise

 

[ToPleaseHim]

I’m not familiar with your username so I doubt I’ve moved or edited your posts. I can’t speak for anyone other than myself, but can assure you I aim for consistency. I will say that I’m reluctant to send feedback when I remove a post, though. I don’t know the stats, haven’t tracked or anything, but at least 75/80% of the time when I send feedback I get hate mail. Not sure how a message like “Please do not share images with urls or watermarks” or “please make sure persons depicted are clearly over 18” leads folks to think it’s appropriate to send me hate mail, but there’s a definite trend.

Also, I’m not at all sure what you mean by “cite the thread.” That might be something system generated if you’re getting a message with a thread title.

 

[jaF0]

'One of mine got pulled so I want everybody else's pulled' doesn't really work out all that well.

 

[Saltfountain]

Out of curiosity, and not to start an argument, but how come sites like FetLife can have full on porn pics and Lit can't?
If it's the way the site owners/mods want it run, that's fine, but if its a legal thing as stated, what's the differences between the sites that mean they can and we can't?

 

[ToPleaseHim]

@BeaMine We rely on reports. That’s all I can say. Each forum has its own mod(s) and we are all volunteers. I can’t possibly see every post in The Playground on my own, for instance.

Only a handful of people report for urls/watermarks. I remove those whenever I see them or whenever they are reported; that’s an easy one. People are much more likely to report graphic, violent, or underage images.

 

[ToPleaseHim]

Out of curiosity, and not to start an argument, but how come sites like FetLife can have full on porn pics and Lit can't?
If it's the way the site owners/mods want it run, that's fine, but if its a legal thing as stated, what's the differences between the sites that mean they can and we can't?

That’s a question for the site owners. Does Fet have age verification? Like a credit card needed or something (not that folks can’t get around that). I don’t think they did when I was there last, but that was decades ago. Ultimately, no clue on this one. Above my volunteer “pay grade.”

 

[Saltfountain]

That’s a question for the site owners. Does Fet have age verification? Like a credit card needed or something (not that folks can’t get around that). I don’t think they did when I was there last, but that was decades ago. Ultimately, no clue on this one. Above my volunteer “pay grade.”

Not to my knowledge. I was just curious because the reason we are given is compliance with the law as opposed to choice

 

[ToPleaseHim]

Not to my knowledge. I was just curious because the reason we are given is compliance with the law as opposed to choice

If the sites are registered differently or something along those lines, that would obviously make a difference. This is intended to be a story site and the message board is supplemental/additional (yet, also intended to be a word based component of the site). Regardless, as I said, I don’t know the distinction. Folks opposed could choose to be at Fet instead of Lit.

 

[Saltfountain]

I'm sorry that my question has been regarded as a challenge or expression of dissatisfaction

 

[jaF0]

Out of curiosity, and not to start an argument, but how come sites like FetLife can have full on porn pics and Lit can't?

Well, this is one reason their rules are different: Headquarters Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada Canada's laws are different.

Then there is this: "An account is required to view content on FetLife, although membership is free. The site is not indexed by search engines "

And this: "Posting of photographs or videos not taken by the member themself is not permitted unless they are photos or videos of the member. While membership is free, videos can only be viewed by financial supporters. "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FetLife

Neither of those apply here in those exact terms.

But all in all, it doesn't really matter what other sites do.

 

[ToPleaseHim]

I'm sorry that my question has been regarded as a challenge or expression of dissatisfaction

I don’t feel challenged. I just explained that I don’t have the knowledge to answer your question. If another site is preferred, choosing that site makes sense. Nothing to be defensive about.

 

[Saltfountain]

But all in all, it doesn't really matter what other sites do.

I know. I wasn't saying anyone had to do anything just because someone else did.

I just asked a question because the law was cited in the rules, so I was curious. If people didn't know the answer, that was fine.

 

[massageguy1]

Oops, the fun is over.

There's nothing difficult about linking 'forbidden' pics...