Setting free the beast

[kaoskytton]

I should clarify, after reading Pink's statement.

I'm not saying it's ever okay to abuse your woman. I hope every man who does that has an aneurysm so intense that blood pours from his eyes before he dies with the painful scream still frozen on his lips.

~in with the good air, out with the bad~

That said, I've never, personally, been pushed beyond what I can endure. Then again, that's my scene. If my heart is still beating and nothing is broken, then I'm still in the green zone. Many women like that snuggling, cuddly sex. And there's nothing wrong with it. There's black and white, and everything in between. Maybe like heaven and hell, and the majority of people are on earth.

~adjusts horns~ Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go find someone who's hungry like the wolf.

 

[Void]

~howls~

 

[Abraxas Winterlight]

yea, I could have worded that one better

It is NEVER ok to abuse anyone, man to woman, or woman to man, neither physically or emotionally.
period.

That being said, I was raised by my father to treat women with respect, caring, love, & to be honorable in all things.
I find it easy to be a gentle lover, but being aggresive is not easy. I can do it, but I have to be "worked up" to it by my partner.
Let us know what you want from us
be frank, honest, we are men but some of us think above the beltbuckle & with our hearts and minds.

( & that teasing thing works like a charm about every damn time)

 

[kaoskytton]

Void, you are 800 miles away and quite successfully humping your fist. Men like you are an endangered species here!

 

[Void]

I only hump my fist to your old avatar

 

[kaoskytton]

Wow...that's the most romantic thing anybody ever said to me.

Give her a money shot for me.

 

[Void]

I'll save the money shot for you. I've never had a girl that likes to be cum on.

 

[Void]

I'll save the money shot for you. I've never had a girl that likes to be cum on.

 

[kaoskytton]

Is that one or two money shots, because we're getting back to that sperm shower thing I was just talking about...

~grins~ I love life!

 

[Void]

I'll cum wherever you'de like me to

 

[kaoskytton]

Here ya go, fanboy.

Try not to get it in my hair.

 

[Void]

heh it's already my background on my monitor and it looks so much better at 17" I can't wait for the real thing

 

[kaoskytton]

Thank you folks, and please tune in next week for our show, same danger time, same danger channel.

 

[The_Dragon_Tamer]

Anyone have any suggestions on how to enourage a man to be more of a beast in bed, how to bring out his animalistic side? I've noticed there are more than a few guys who just have a mental block against it, they think it's just not okay to man-handle a woman or to let go and release his inner animal.

I'm not interested in talking outside the bedroom, but more of things to do in bed to help bring that side out.

Any ideas? Any guys out there who once treated a woman in bed like fine china but eventually let go, at least once in a while, and just wantonly fucked until both people were raw and bruised?

This could also have something to do with me, I'm very "sweet and innocent" looking, and often proper in public, have a reserved yet authoritarian profession, and on many occasions men have trouble thinking of me in a purely lust-driven way. I often like to be fucked like a whore, but they just can't seem to see me like that no matter how dirty I talk or wanton I get. But I want a man who can set free his inner beast so I can let out my inner whore How can I help this along? Is it me?

Hello Pink Orchid. I was pointed to your thread and asked to respond to your question. I am the Dragon Tamer. Native can tell you more. I am someone who would surprise you if you knew who and what I am. I was this way a long time ago. I am a romantic, one of a dying breed, but this does not mean that many different and a vaariety of sexual appetities can't be realized.

The best thing is to tell him what you want. "sweet and innocent" as well as men having difficulty seeing you in a "lust-driven way", is partially due to you. In business I don't know if this is such a good thing but when out with your SO or wanting to do something different, dress provacatively, dress the part. This may mean revamping your wardrobe a bit.

Unfortunately most men when talked to about what a woman wants or needs that may be different than what they are doing often take this as a failure on their part. Reassurance must be given to insure tha tthis does not happen. You just want some things to be different. Find out what his fantasies are, tell him you want to hear them and that you want him to be honest with you. Some you may like and some you may not like. That is alright, but some of his may be some of yours. Also tell him what your fantasies are, and what you would like him to do.

I like to surprise my lover. It may be with a romantic bath, massage and gourmet meal, and then dessert to either her or my liking. I may blindfold her when she comes in the door and be a bit more forceful. To cause pain is not the goal, to satisfy all of my lover's needs in ways that she may not have even imagined is my goal.

Teasing is beneficial, but if he treats you as "fine china" you will likely not get the desired results. Communication is the key. He is not a mind reader, none of us are, well...some of us are...but that is something different.

The absolute key to good love making is communication. Tell him, as Native Alien pointed out a story of one of your fantasies could be very beneficial. Show him that you will not break. Change your 'sweet and innocent' behavior/attitude around him.

Be prepared when you release the "beast", you may get more than you expect. Always have a "safe word" to insure that injury does not occur. Teasing, extreme teasing and the knowledge of what you want and need will likely release that beast.

There is more that I could tell you but I would need a little bit more information and I would not post that upon this thread. There are a number of ways to bring out the "Beast" in either a man or a woman. What I have taken a lifetime to learn I do not share with everyone. Those who are truly willing to learn and try new things are the ones who are most receptive to my knowledge and my skills.

Feel free to PM me or email me if you would like further information. I have dealt with cases such as this countless times.

 

[Native Alien]

See Pink, I told ya that I would try to get him to give ya some answers. hehe.

 

[Spinoza]

veritas

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Things to watch out for

Telling them "Harder...harder"...of "Fuck me you bastard"....etc
Is great at first....but once your yankin her hips back at you and throwing heat like your ass depended on it ...it can turn into a turn off. I remember once this was happening and she was still telling me to do it harder.... All I could think of was I should get out in the hall way and get a running start. (No I didnt do that)
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Can you explain this? I don't think I'm reading it correctly.


Hmmm...perhaps reversing the situation will illuminate. Say your breakin the bed with your s.o. and he tells you "Come on slut show me you want that cum... squeeze my cock with that pussy"

And you begin to squeeze and grind for all your worth and he keeps saying it to you.

How would you react to this if your s.o. continues to say this even though you were tryin as hard as you can.

At some point it just seems to me like it would be less of an encouragement for you to do what he likes and more of an acknowledgement of your not being able to do it to the extent he wants it.

It can be a fine line between encouragement and making someone feel inadequeate. You need to feel out where that line is for your partner so you dont cross it.

 

[peachykeen]

OK, but...

what if your man insists that there is no beast?

Mr K and I have been around and around this. He is the loveliest, sweetest, most gentle, caring man. I have tried every way I can think to bring out some raw animal instinct in him - I've bought the slinky underpants, I've dropped subtle hints, I've flat out begged. He says he is just not 'like that', and that he can't ever imagine himself being particularly sexually aggressive.

 

[The_Dragon_Tamer]

OK, but...

what if your man insists that there is no beast?

Mr K and I have been around and around this. He is the loveliest, sweetest, most gentle, caring man. I have tried every way I can think to bring out some raw animal instinct in him - I've bought the slinky underpants, I've dropped subtle hints, I've flat out begged. He says he is just not 'like that', and that he can't ever imagine himself being particularly sexually aggressive.

I hath yet to find the man that doth not subdue a beast. Some have rpressed it so far that it is difficult to bring out. There are ways that this can be done but would prefer to discuss this not on a thread. If you are interested in learning more please PM me. I may be able to help you.

 

[Lust Engine]

ShyGuy and Abraxis,

I'm not sure I'm talking about telling a man to "hurt" me, but to not feel like he has to coddle me in the bedroom. I can handle some roughness, I WANT the intensity and passion of letting go, and I'm a big girl and will let my partner know if he's going too far for me.

I hate to have to put it that way, but it's almost patronizing the way some men are in bed. Yes, if a woman wants it all soft and cuddly all the time, a man should respect that and as long as he's also satisfied with that kind of sex, it's all well and good.

But why is it okay for guys to play football and wrestle with each other and box (sometimes on TV for millions of dollars), and really try to hurt each other, but not okay to let loose, I mean really let loose and let 'er rip, with a woman he cares about if it PLEASES her. I'm not talking about beating me, breaking my bones, then fucking me against my will. I'm just talking about LETTING GO and ENJOYING a particular brand of release in an intimate setting.

Darling Orchid,
My apologies for replying sooner this topic which is so near & dear to me also. But I will agree with the majority of the posters here. I, too love a good rough & tumble, knock down the walls, offend the neighbors, break a bedpost, sweaty, grunting & groaning kind of fucking myself... but it takes quite bit of communication PRIOR to.

As a human being, I know I've been hot wired to NOT wanting to hurt someone you care for deeply... especially when it comes to as something as deeply intimate as this. We've been taught throughout our lives never to go out & intentionally hurt someone even in very physical activities such as sports. We'll run a fellow player hard, check someone tightly but once it crosses the line of intentional hurting- the guilt factor keeps us in line. It's a fine line that we toe here. Even professionals, who know the risks of their respective sportswhen they hurt each other the remorse is there. God forbid we ever feel the horrible guilt associated with the hurting someone in the act of lovemaking.

The safe words that a lot of people have suggested is an ideal for us to step across that line. It's just ONE of the many bits of communication that BOTH parties must have prior to initiating something as wonderfully risky & fulfilling as this harder brand of sex. It takes skill in communication & a deep seated trust that each party has to have. I can't ever imagine doing something like this early on in a relationship. A lot of those hot wired thoughts must be de-programmed prior to for me to unleash that beast within. A lot of our primitive fears must be eased and a comfort zone established.

Once that stability and lack of fear has been established... G'Lord, buckle down the hatches! Knowing that we can have that kind of primal release can be VERY liberating. It's "DAMN the torpedoes!. We're gonna fuck until our juices are running up one thigh and down the other!" Just the sheer physical contact of grabbing, pulling, shoving & heaving is a turn on unto itself. Toss in a few select dirty words of making it unsavory & dirty would get me off like a cannon shot every time! I'm liable to explode within you as the heat & friction builds up to momentum. It's that sheet grabbing, hold onto anything for dear life fucking that can be so exhilerating!! Having your personal space invading mine and our bodies writhing against one another in such a violent way is wonderful. Knowing that my hard cock is feeling it's thickest as it's slamming up against your pulsing wet pussy in such a way is oh-so DAMN good!

But yes, it does take some careful plotting & planning prior to in order for the BOTH of us to enjoy to the fullest. It's wonderful fertile groundwork that needs to be laid prior to.

Woo... now I'm all worked up again. Darn you Orchid! You have just such a way with me don't you? You've hit on it again!

 

[PinkOrchid]

 

[Lust Engine]

Fuck, LE, you've gone and made me soak through ANOTHER pair of panties.

Aren't you taking your summer vacation down here??????

You were actually wearing some panties tonight?

As far as a vacation in your neck of the woods, you think the neighbors would object to some ruthlessly loud, thigh slapping noises eminating from your place?? That sort of vacation could cost me a small fortune in wrecked headboards and gallons of lube!

So where do I book this vacation??

 

[PinkOrchid]

 

[sheath]

Fuck the neighbors and the headboard. I'll supply the lube, it will gush forth naturally from between my legs, so it won't cost a damn thing.

Get that big lusty engine over here NOW!

Hot damn.

I just want to hear all the details.

S.

 

[Native Alien]

Yea what sheath said.

 

[kaoskytton]

Yeah, I was thinking about something similar, I think they go hand in hand.

Ideally, we're talking fucking with feeling. But when you bounce like a jackrabbit with its foot in a trap, just wild bouncing as fast and hard as you can, there's no soul there. I mean, personally, there's nothing worse than being jackhammered by a guy. You can literally go numb.

The hottest sex for me is the slower sex, probably an inward thrust every three seconds or so, to give you a time ratio. That way, they're there with you, you can look in their eyes, you can feel every inch by aching inch move through you.

I watch some of my girlfriends literally "bounce" and I keep wondering if she's gonna crush his balls like hard boiled eggs under an auto-crushing machine. I guess it's just about being a conscious lover. Same thought?