Sexual Torture [Pain]: Yes or No?

[BiBunny]

And this post demonstrates you don't want to answer. If I didn't want to understand I wouldn't be here asking these questions. What I DO want is to avoid arguing with you. Shall we agree to disagree? You don't have to post an answer.

Things like "if you loved someone, you wouldn't hurt them" demonstrate you've already made your mind up. And, no, I don't particularly care to carry on a conversation about this with someone who thinks my mental health is in question. Believe me, it's quite all right.

Let me pose your own question to you from the flipside. If someone you loved asked--no, begged--you to hurt her to get her off, do you really love her if you tell her no?

All righty. It's damned if you do and damned if you don't with that little slippery slope.

 

[didi_louise]

Things like "if you loved someone, you wouldn't hurt them" demonstrate you've already made your mind up. And, no, I don't particularly care to carry on a conversation about this with someone who thinks my mental health is in question. Believe me, it's quite all right.

Let me pose your own question to you from the flipside. If someone you loved asked--no, begged--you to hurt her to get her off, do you really love her if you tell her no?

All righty. It's damned if you do and damned if you don't with that little slippery slope.

That's absolutely right... if you deny her you obviously don't love her and are leaving her un-fulfilled!!

 

[Shywong]

Things like "if you loved someone, you wouldn't hurt them" demonstrate you've already made your mind up. And, no, I don't particularly care to carry on a conversation about this with someone who thinks my mental health is in question. Believe me, it's quite all right.

Do you want a hug?

Let me pose your own question to you from the flipside. If someone you loved asked--no, begged--you to hurt her to get her off, do you really love her if you tell her no?

All righty. It's damned if you do and damned if you don't with that little slippery slope.

Au contraire, I do have an answer for you. Yes I love her and no I wouldn't do it UNLESS she did something provoke me. She would have to punch me first, that way it's mutual.

 

[Homburg]

I understand wanting to serve someone, to please them and make them happy. Even if it means going so far as to endure pain for them. But then my question loops and diverts to the inflicter. If you love, like or endear this person, why do you WANT them to suffer? Does it demonstrate their trust, make you feel powerful and in control? If that's what you -need- to feel dominant then I think its an insecurity, but that's just my opinion. Would you allow them to do the same to you? If you say no then it diverts to the receiver, why would you allow them to do this to you if they won't return the favor. Bottom line, what makes pain necessary for either party.

You're making a lot of assumptions here. Insecurity happens in the BDSM community, just like anywhere else, and the tops are no more immune to it tha the bottoms are. There are those that are toppy out of a deep-seated insecurity, but there are others who are that way simply because it's what gets them off.

I enjoy the pain. I am deeply satisfied by the trust that she places in me to allow me to give her pain. Beyond that, I get off on the noises she makes, and love the yelps, whimpers, and crying. Is it nice to say it? Nope, but it is honest. Fortunately, I come equipped with a strong respect for consent. Y'know, consent, that aspect that isn't present in rape.

Consent is the big part in all of this that we focus on and you seem to not get. If I go to a martial arts class and get into sparring with a fellow student, both of us have consented to contact, violent contact.

As to letting her do it to me, why does it matter? Do you let your girlfriend take you with a strap-on? If so, do you do it solely out of fairness, or do you get off on it? Just like you might not like penetration yourself, yet enjoy penetrating others, I might not like pain, yet like giving it to others. Sex is not abou fairness. It's about people enjoying each other in a consenting and mutually enriching fashion.

Here's a hypothetical question. If a woman has a beautiful body, why would anyone want to damage it? I believe in intimate marking, but the farthest I'll go is leaving a hickey or bite mark. It's not permanent but anything more is just unnecessary or wasteful.

To you. Some of us enjoy more permanent marks.

Unfortunately no, to either.

You would understand all of this more if you had more of a relationship with your own body. Not meaning that in an insulting way, just being honest. People that don't get into physical stuff have a tougher time understanding the idea of playing with endorphins and such.

That's a good analogy, comparing sexual pain to exercising. Pushing your body to the limit, it makes sense. However anyone who wants to be scarred or inflict scars on their partner is what I'm really curious about here. You can hate someone and still want to have sex with said person. Naturally, wanting to cause that person pain at the same time would make sense, since you don't care for them. Yet if said person is blindly submissive and wants to be treated that way by someone with no feelings for them [Master/Slave], he/she is a paradox to me because they want to be abused regardless. They either have unrequited feelings and will serve under that reason or its something else.. inside their mind. Which I'm trying to find.

You have some very weird preconceptions of these sorts of relationships, and are basing your judgements off of these preconcieved notions. You would do well to investigate and learn before you judge, not judge when you know less than nothing about the topic.

And by "less than nothing", I mean your disinformation and misinformation exceeds your actual hard data.

To Me, Abuse = Punching, Slapping, Kicking, Cutting, etc.

Boxing, martial arts, slapstick comedy, soccer, and surgery are all apparrently abuse to you.

 

[didi_louise]

Do you want a hug?


Au contraire, I do have an answer for you. Yes I love her and no I wouldn't do it UNLESS she did something provoke me. She would have to punch me first, that way it's mutual.

sooooo... if she tied you up, whipped you, spanked you... raped you... then you'd be ok to do it back?

 

[nh23]

Boxing, martial arts, slapstick comedy, soccer, and surgery are all apparrently abuse to you.

*snorts*

 

[Shywong]

I enjoy the pain. I am deeply satisfied by the trust that she places in me to allow me to give her pain. Beyond that, I get off on the noises she makes, and love the yelps, whimpers, and crying. Is it nice to say it? Nope, but it is honest. Fortunately, I come equipped with a strong respect for consent. Y'know, consent, that aspect that isn't present in rape.

Consent is the big part in all of this that we focus on and you seem to not get. If I go to a martial arts class and get into sparring with a fellow student, both of us have consented to contact, violent contact.

As to letting her do it to me, why does it matter? Do you let your girlfriend take you with a strap-on? If so, do you do it solely out of fairness, or do you get off on it? Just like you might not like penetration yourself, yet enjoy penetrating others, I might not like pain, yet like giving it to others. Sex is not abou fairness. It's about people enjoying each other in a consenting and mutually enriching fashion.



To you. Some of us enjoy more permanent marks.




You would understand all of this more if you had more of a relationship with your own body. Not meaning that in an insulting way, just being honest. People that don't get into physical stuff have a tougher time understanding the idea of playing with endorphins and such.



You have some very weird preconceptions of these sorts of relationships, and are basing your judgements off of these preconcieved notions. You would do well to investigate and learn before you judge, not judge when you know less than nothing about the topic.

And by "less than nothing", I mean your disinformation and misinformation exceeds your actual hard data.



Boxing, martial arts, slapstick comedy, soccer, and surgery are all apparrently abuse to you.

Investigate and Learn? Just what do you think I'm doing? Since when does having a conversation with the people you're curious about not count as investigating or learning. There's Wikipedia then there's real people with real opinions. I'm here to learn what people have to say. Basing judgment? I wasn't judging anyone until you said this, "I get off on the noises she makes, and love the yelps, whimpers, and crying." Now I just want to shoot you in the face because I think you're an asshole who deserves it. I gave you credit for comparing sexual torture to exercising, but that last part doesn't make sense at all. You're getting out of bounds by accusing me calling those things abuse. I seek answers, not something you pulled out of your ass.

 

[nh23]

Investigate and Learn? Just what do you think I'm doing? Since when does having a conversation with the people you're curious about not count as investigating or learning. There's Wikipedia then there's real people with real opinions. I'm here to learn what people have to say. Basing judgment? I wasn't judging anyone until you said this, "I get off on the noises she makes, and love the yelps, whimpers, and crying." Now I just want to shoot you in the face because I think you're an asshole. I gave you credit for comparing sexual torture to exercising, but that last part doesn't make sense at all. You're getting out of bounds by accusing me calling those things abuse. I seek answers, not something you pulled out of your ass.

Funny, I found that statement really hot.

 

[didi_louise]

Investigate and Learn? Just what do you think I'm doing? Since when does having a conversation with the people you're curious about not count as investigating or learning. There's Wikipedia then there's real people with real opinions. I'm here to learn what people have to say. Basing judgment? I wasn't judging anyone until you said this, "I get off on the noises she makes, and love the yelps, whimpers, and crying." Now I just want to shoot you in the face because I think you're an asshole who deserves it. I gave you credit for comparing sexual torture to exercising, but that last part doesn't make sense at all. You're getting out of bounds by accusing me calling those things abuse. I seek answers, not something you pulled out of your ass.

You're absolutely right... he should have added that AS WELL as being turned on by the crying and whimpers he's also satisfied when she falls down at the end saying "oh my fucking God, was that awesome or what?!"

I cried today.. I whimpered and there was a good few yelps, lol... but should I be DENIED my ultimate pleasure because it's "sick" or "weird"?!

 

[Homburg]

Investigate and Learn? Just what do you think I'm doing? Since when does having a conversation with the people you're curious about not count as investigating or learning. There's Wikipedia then there's real people with real opinions. I'm here to learn what people have to say.

Yet you walked in with a load of prejudices based on misinformation, and tried to perform armchair psychological evals on people that you don't know.

Learning happens best when you admit that you know nothing, and wish to learn. Not when you come in wielding judgemental language, and putting the very people you wish to learn from on the defensive.

Basing judgment? I wasn't judging anyone until you said this, "I get off on the noises she makes, and love the yelps, whimpers, and crying." Now I just want to shoot you in the face because I think you're an asshole who deserves it. I gave you credit for comparing sexual torture to exercising, but that last part doesn't make sense at all. You're getting out of bounds by accusing me calling those things abuse. I seek answers, not something you pulled out of your ass.

The guy that just said he wants to shoot me in the face says _I_ am getting out of bounds? You're a riot, sparky.

And, no, I didn't pull it out of my ass. You rather blindly chose to call some very common acts "abuse", while failing to take into account context.

Punching may be abuse when it a drunk 40 year old hitting his eight year old son, but in a boxing ring, it's just a job.

Kicking may be abuse when it is the same drunk 40 year old kicking his wife, but it is just good fun on a soccer field.

Slapping may be abuse when it is a 35 year old woman slapping her grandmother suffering from senior dememntia, but put two giant fat guys into silk diapers in a sumo circle, and it is classical Japanese culture.

Cutting may be abuse when it is a 12 year old kid holding down her 6 year old brother and cutting his hair against his wishes, but in a surgical theatre, it is life saving.

The point here is that no specific act is abusive. The context is what makes it abuse.

And if it sickens you so badly that you want to commit actual murder, feel free to fuck right off. There are a whole lot of other boards around here that have nothing to with BDSM, but may be more friendly to your non-consensual fantasies and violent urges to commit murder. No one is forcing you to be here.

 

[BiBunny]

Troll. Iggy.

 

[Homburg]

You're absolutely right... he should have added that AS WELL as being turned on by the crying and whimpers he's also satisfied when she falls down at the end saying "oh my fucking God, was that awesome or what?!"

Yeah, true that. I do get off on the "Oh my god, that was incredible" comments. Good stuff.

 

[00Syd]

Let me ask you guys this, maybe it'll help clear things up. If you like pain, do you like being scarred/marked? IE: Mild Scrapes, Bruises, Lacerations, Light Cutting, etc.

I'm fine with scrapes, and I love bruises. It hurts like hell at the time, but going back and feeling that soreness for a few days after is wonderful. I love looking at the bruises in the mirror and being reminded of him and of what happened. I don't like cuts or anything involving permanent scars, though.

To Me, Abuse = Punching, Slapping, Kicking, Cutting, etc.

First off I'll say that I like slapping a lot. A slap is sort of like a spank but on a different part of your body, y'know? And you already said that you just thought spanking was "humorous." So, whats so bad about slapping but okay about spanking in your opinion? Just curious. And all of those things, punching, slapping, kicking, and cutting all could be abuse, but it depends on the situation, eh? Homburg made that point pretty well. Whenever my Dom slaps me, I like it, he likes it, and its consensual. Whenever someone brings up the word consensual you seem to ignore it. Do you understand what that means? Consensual slapping isn't okay, but rape (non-violent or not) is? Okay.

 

[didi_louise]

I'm fine with scrapes, and I love bruises. It hurts like hell at the time, but going back and feeling that soreness for a few days after is wonderful. I love looking at the bruises in the mirror and being reminded of him and of what happened. I don't like cuts or anything involving permanent scars, though.



First off I'll say that I like slapping a lot. A slap is sort of like a spank but on a different part of your body, y'know? And you already said that you just thought spanking was "humorous." So, whats so bad about slapping but okay about spanking in your opinion? Just curious. And all of those things, punching, slapping, kicking, and cutting all could be abuse, but it depends on the situation, eh? Homburg made that point pretty well. Whenever my Dom slaps me, I like it, he likes it, and its consensual. Whenever someone brings up the word consensual you seem to ignore it. Do you understand what that means? Consensual slapping isn't okay, but rape (non-violent or not) is? Okay.

ooo I LOOOVE looking in the mirror after and seeming my arse all bright red, lol...

 

[didi_louise]

Yeah, true that. I do get off on the "Oh my god, that was incredible" comments. Good stuff.

that or just simply the tired but statisfied smile as well as the odd remenant shudder.... hubby loooooves those shudders... they're like mini orgasms sometimes, lol

 

[myinnerslut]

Basing judgment? I wasn't judging anyone until you said this, "I get off on the noises she makes, and love the yelps, whimpers, and crying." Now I just want to shoot you in the face because I think you're an asshole who deserves it. .

i know i shouldnt bother, but i wanted to clarify something.

the general comment: i am a slave. it is my job, my life, and my absolute pleasure to serve my Master. for him i would yelp, whimper, and cry, as well as beg, worship, and surrender.

the specific comment: as the person being caned, whipped, spanked, flogged, cut, tied, suspended, branded, and otherwise used, i think your a bit out of line here. i assure you everything Homburg (my Master) does to me is completely within the agreed upon realm of our relationship.

 

[Shywong]

Yet you walked in with a load of prejudices based on misinformation, and tried to perform armchair psychological evals on people that you don't know.

Learning happens best when you admit that you know nothing, and wish to learn. Not when you come in wielding judgemental language, and putting the very people you wish to learn from on the defensive.



The guy that just said he wants to shoot me in the face says _I_ am getting out of bounds? You're a riot, sparky.

And, no, I didn't pull it out of my ass. You rather blindly chose to call some very common acts "abuse", while failing to take into account context.

Punching may be abuse when it a drunk 40 year old hitting his eight year old son, but in a boxing ring, it's just a job.

Kicking may be abuse when it is the same drunk 40 year old kicking his wife, but it is just good fun on a soccer field.

Slapping may be abuse when it is a 35 year old woman slapping her grandmother suffering from senior dememntia, but put two giant fat guys into silk diapers in a sumo circle, and it is classical Japanese culture.

Cutting may be abuse when it is a 12 year old kid holding down her 6 year old brother and cutting his hair against his wishes, but in a surgical theatre, it is life saving.

The point here is that no specific act is abusive. The context is what makes it abuse.

And if it sickens you so badly that you want to commit actual murder, feel free to fuck right off. There are a whole lot of other boards around here that have nothing to with BDSM, but may be more friendly to your non-consensual fantasies and violent urges to commit murder. No one is forcing you to be here.

You had my respect in the beginning, as every other poster here. But I see you like to make something out of nothing for sake of argument. I'm not here to argue with anyone, I never said you or your fellow masochist/sadist are wrong. You interpreted it that way and put yourself on the defensive. And what misinformation per say am I going on? Not once did I say 'its a proven fact' or 'studies show' or 'I know' in this thread. And shooting you in the face was a figure of speech, calling me a murderer is another example of you overcompensating for your defense by making something out of nothing. You had one good analogy, the rest are flawed and irrelevant. Remember we're talking about sex.

I swear every time I come to Literotica its ME being misunderstood.

 

[midwestyankee]

Oh, Jeebus on a frisbee...I see that Ainslee Hayes walked into the bathroom again, thinking it was the exit and is still convinced that it's the exit even though most exits don't come equipped with a crapper and a sink and everyone in the room is telling her that she stepped into the bathroom.

Man, I needed a laugh like this.

 

[00Syd]

Oh, and about the whimpering, crying, yelping hullabaloo: I enjoy doing all of those things. Does that make me as bad as the person who enjoys hearing me do those things?

 

[Homburg]

You had my respect in the beginning, as every other poster here. But I see you like to make something out of nothing for sake of argument. I'm not here to argue with anyone, I never said you or your fellow masochist/sadist are wrong. You interpreted it that way and put yourself on the defensive.

Yup, just me. No one else has decided that you're being judgemental. Nah. Only lil ole me.

And what misinformation per say am I going on? Not once did I say 'its a proven fact' or 'studies show' or 'I know' in this thread.

An example would be your assumption that Master/slave relationships mean that the two parties involved do not care for, or love, each other. Or that the slave is "blindly submissive" if they are in such a relationship. To quote you:

Yet if said person is blindly submissive and wants to be treated that way by someone with no feelings for them [Master/Slave], he/she is a paradox to me because they want to be abused regardless.

Your own words there.

(And it is "per se", not "per say". I see this all the time on the net. I'm offering the correction to inform, not to belittle. It is a very common spelling error based on phonetic spelling. And, saying this, I have guaranteed that there will be a spelling error of mine in this post somewhere.)

And shooting you in the face was a figure of speech, calling me a murderer is another example of you overcompensating for your defense by making something out of nothing.

Misrepresent much? Please show me where I called you a murderer.

Yes, it was a figure of speech, just a violent and threatening one that is most assuredly out of bounds for this forum (check the rules).

You might want to read more than one word in three, and try, just try, to understand what the other person is saying. It helps.

You had one good analogy, the rest are flawed and irrelevant. Remember we're talking about sex.

No, the rest of us are talking about sex. You are trying to do amateur psychology. And, in that case, you were specifically talking about abuse, a subject which does not have anything intrinsically to do with sex.

I swear every time I come to Literotica its ME being misunderstood.

If you are always being misunderstood, you may want to examine your own posts. While it is not important to conform to the (frequently flawed, misinformed, and blinkered) majority, if everyone thinks your haircut is ugly, it's time to look in the mirror and check.

 

[CutieMouse]

You had my respect in the beginning, as every other poster here. But I see you like to make something out of nothing for sake of argument. I'm not here to argue with anyone, I never said you or your fellow masochist/sadist are wrong. You interpreted it that way and put yourself on the defensive. And what misinformation per say am I going on? Not once did I say 'its a proven fact' or 'studies show' or 'I know' in this thread. And shooting you in the face was a figure of speech, calling me a murderer is another example of you overcompensating for your defense by making something out of nothing. You had one good analogy, the rest are flawed and irrelevant. Remember we're talking about sex.

I swear every time I come to Literotica its ME being misunderstood.

Maybe that would be because it seems like you are A) presuming much and B) we're sort of used to this sort of "defend yourself!" discussions. Seriously - do you bug your Aunt Matilda about why she loves sushi so much, does she make sure her sushimi is up to code, doesn't she think maybe the whole sushi thing is a bit dangerous? I mean raw fish and all... Ew.

It bothers me because I worry about their mental and physical well-being. That's all I want to say because my reasoning might sound condescending to some people.

You won't say we're "wrong", but you will bring our mental health into question.

There's pain and then there's fear. For me its about causing the fear of the pain she thinks will happen, then experiencing the relief once she knows my true intentions, that I'm not going to hurt her. I'm compassionate and enjoy giving pleasure, relief is a form of pleasure. Call if forceful seduction if you will, I know that's pretty damn lame for people with real rape fantasies.

That's lovely, but some persons thrive on the "fear"/mindfuck. Some people enjoy the guessing game, not knowing *for sure* what the true intentions are. Some people even like the hard stuff - pain/sensation that goes quite a ways down that fearful path...

I understand wanting to serve someone, to please them and make them happy. Even if it means going so far as to endure pain for them. But then my question loops and diverts to the inflicter. If you love, like or endear this person, why do you WANT them to suffer? Does it demonstrate their trust, make you feel powerful and in control?

I notice you seem unable to recognize the symbiotic level of a power based relationship... I feel a need to suffer that is the equal and inverse of his need to inflict said suffering. I would be miserable in a relationship without it; so would he. There is great intimacy to be found in the depths of a power based relationship...

If that's what you -need- to feel dominant then I think its an insecurity, but that's just my opinion. Would you allow them to do the same to you? If you say no then it diverts to the receiver, why would you allow them to do this to you if they won't return the favor. Bottom line, what makes pain necessary for either party.

Because some people have no interest in "switching." I say this as someone who has tried [out of a deep rooted Love] to dominate another. I worked my ass off trying to give him what he needed, learned a few things about myself, and got to a point where his whimpers actually got me really freaking hot... but my heart wasn't/isn't in it. Ultimately, trying to meet his need that I "return the favor" became a crippling experience [for me].

Here's a hypothetical question. If a woman has a beautiful body, why would anyone want to damage it? I believe in intimate marking, but the farthest I'll go is leaving a hickey or bite mark. It's not permanent but anything more is just unnecessary or wasteful.

Here's a hypothetical question - what if the "damage" only enhances the beauty in the eyes of those who inflicted/endured it? I [personally] think pierced ears on little girls are tacky as hell, but thousands of cultures worldwide disagree with me...

That's a good analogy, comparing sexual pain to exercising. Pushing your body to the limit, it makes sense. However anyone who wants to be scarred or inflict scars on their partner is what I'm really curious about here. You can hate someone and still want to have sex with said person. Naturally, wanting to cause that person pain at the same time would make sense, since you don't care for them. Yet if said person is blindly submissive and wants to be treated that way by someone with no feelings for them [Master/Slave], he/she is a paradox to me because they want to be abused regardless. They either have unrequited feelings and will serve under that reason or its something else.. inside their mind. Which I'm trying to find.

To Me, Abuse = Punching, Slapping, Kicking, Cutting, etc.

You presume those in such relationships are in relationships without feelings. I know very very few who would bother (much less dare) such soul-baring intimacy without a certain degree of connectivity.

Au contraire, I do have an answer for you. Yes I love her and no I wouldn't do it UNLESS she did something provoke me. She would have to punch me first, that way it's mutual.

Which would leave me screwed in the not fun way. Because I would not "hit first". To *me* the concept of "she has to punch me, so I can [fairly] hit her" is a fight. I do not fight. I submit. Selfishly, yes, as submitting is kind of a Blatant Self Interest thing for me (I do enjoy it, you see), but the whole pop him upside the head so he can have an excuse to torment me? Ew. No thank you.

Investigate and Learn? Just what do you think I'm doing? Since when does having a conversation with the people you're curious about not count as investigating or learning. There's Wikipedia then there's real people with real opinions. I'm here to learn what people have to say. Basing judgment? I wasn't judging anyone until you said this, "I get off on the noises she makes, and love the yelps, whimpers, and crying." Now I just want to shoot you in the face because I think you're an asshole who deserves it. I gave you credit for comparing sexual torture to exercising, but that last part doesn't make sense at all. You're getting out of bounds by accusing me calling those things abuse. I seek answers, not something you pulled out of your ass.

Problem with that? *I* get off on knowing he gets off my my yelps, whimpers, and crying. Intricate (and twisted) positive feedback loop, that.

 

[Homburg]

Oh, and about the whimpering, crying, yelping hullabaloo: I enjoy doing all of those things. Does that make me as bad as the person who enjoys hearing me do those things?

Problem with that? *I* get off on knowing he gets off my my yelps, whimpers, and crying. Intricate (and twisted) positive feedback loop, that.

Posts like these are yet another reason why I love this board.

 

[Homburg]

I saw your comment and immediately though "no wait... didnt someone call him a murderer? my memory is crappy, but i know i saw that word bandied about somehwere here...



i think this is what he was refering to; which is yet another misunderstanding, primarily due to the heat of the ongoing arguement.

There is a vast gulf of difference between what I said, and calling him a murderer. It's a pretty bloody huge stretch, in fact. There is not, however, a huge gulf between "I want to shoot you in the face" and "if you want to commit murder".

Note: At no point did I take slapnuts seriously with his faceshooting talk. Typical internet bravado.

 

[Homburg]

I was trained in martial arts to fight back against anyone who takes a swing at me, regardless of gender. This "anti-chivalry" was driven home by having my ass kicked by female sparring partners.

Hah! Yeah, man, I can remember many times getting my butt kicked around by a 42yr old 5'2" lady named Sue. She was a student instructor at the Kenpo dodjo I trained at, and she was a feisty, aggressive thing. She ;iked sparring with the guys what were taller and bigger than she was, and frequently chose us as her demo dummies when explaining a throw, takedown, etc. It was an ego thing. anyway, she was serious enough that she was fine going almost full contact, and would gove me a helluva fight if I ticked her off.

Good times

NOTE: While I don't do so in sexual situations, in MMA, boxing, etc, I am perfectly fine with getting hit too. Wakes me up and makes me fight harder

 

[Puman]

Shoowee... this has been an interesting read.

No one can make you fully understand D/s power dynamics or s/m tendancies. I personally think that you've posted this thread because you're curious and the only way you're going to satisfy your curiosity is by trying it... so try it, and then make up your mind about it...