Stories I Suspect Have Been 1 Bombed

[lovecraft68]

The top ten lists will keep a story "alive"

I have one that is a year and a half old yet still grabs several comments a month because its in the top ten of its category.

 

[sr71plt]

I think HeyAll has posed a good, unanswerable question. Every day I have a few story favoritings or comments on stories that are years old, and, unlike you love to tell us about your stories, LC, none of mine are on any top ten lists. I certainly don't go to the top lists to check anything out. I doubt there is any general pattern of story shopping here, or, if there is, that any of us has a handle on what that is.

 

[lovecraft68]

I think HeyAll has posed a good, unanswerable question. Every day I have a few story favoritings or comments on stories that are years old, and, unlike you love to tell us about your stories, LC, none of mine are on any top ten lists. I certainly don't go to the top lists to check anything out. I doubt there is any general pattern of story shopping here, or, if there is, that any of us has a handle on what that is.

I beg to differ on the top list. Most stories have their "peak time" within the first week, after that things trickle and unless it is part of an ongoing series interest fades all together.

I have plenty of stories here that are a couple of years old and only rarely get any new "action"

I have two on top lists and they do still see a fair amount of comments. People do go there to "shop" so to speak.

The other thing I have noticed is a lot of people "shop" by the feedback forum. It seems if I have a story that gets a comment it usually gets faved a couple of times shortly thereafter.

How I find new stories is when someone book marks me, I check to see who else they have favorited and check out their work.

And goddamn do you have balls saying anyone brags about anything here. Mr I am the be all end all of editing/publishing and have to try to remind people constantly of it.

Not that anyone cares or believes you, but still.

Anyway enjoy your barbs, sniping and bragging, what I know I keep for my own self edification and to laugh even louder at your every post.

Enjoy your 4th Pilot I'm going back to work now.

 

[sr71plt]

And goddamn do you have balls saying anyone brags about anything here. Mr I am the be all end all of editing/publishing and have to try to remind people constantly of it.

Well, because anyone who can read in the forum knows that it's you not me bragging about themselves and their writing and publishing (while denigrating mine) and spilling their guts about themselves, what a bad ass they want to present themselves as, and how much their wife loves their fucking all over the forum.

Why just a couple of days ago you started a whole thread to tell us that you sell 500 books a month through one distributor.

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=893970

 

[Bramblethorn]

Why? Because almost everything has a distribution of lovers and haters and folks who don't care one way or another.

Yep. But there's no obvious reason why the "don't care one way or another"s have to outnumber the extremes, or why that would be the same for every story.

Even when a lot of readers might be neutral on a story, the ratings come from the < 10% of readers who bother to vote, and those are more likely to be the ones with strong feelings one way or another. It's quite plausible that some stories will get a bimodal distribution of votes.

Two-thirds can take it or leave it, another third run either hot or cold, and 4% are fanatics one way or the other. The distribution oughta look like: 1 (2%)2 (16%)3(66%)4(16%)5(2%).

If it was a bell curve with standard deviation equal to one Lit star, sure, but I have no idea why we'd expect that. (Nitpicking, it can't be a true bell curve because that requires a continuous and unbounded range of options, and Lit voting is neither, but I don't see why we'd expect even approximately normal.)

I don't read Gay Male or Romance or some of the others, and most readers know whats what. So youre not gonna get many folks reading what bores or offends them from the git-go. What you oughta get are interested readers with different standards and sentiments about specific categories. And when the scores are mostly 1s and 5s you pretty much know someone launched a flying monkey attack.

I'm not ruling it out, especially if you're seeing different patterns for the same sort of story when posted under an alt ID, but I'm really sceptical about the expectation that voting will follow a nice bell curve.

 

[lovecraft68]

but I'm really sceptical about the expectation that voting will follow a nice bell curve.

I agree with this completely.

As for JBJ all the years trolling here unfortunately have left some people liking their chops that you now post stories.

I believe payback time would be the correct response.

If you're concerned with scores JB post all your work under an alt.

Although honestly, your style is pretty distinct, I think someone could find you if they wanted to.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I agree with this completely.

As for JBJ all the years trolling here unfortunately have left some people liking their chops that you now post stories.

I believe payback time would be the correct response.

If you're concerned with scores JB post all your work under an alt.

Although honestly, your style is pretty distinct, I think someone could find you if they wanted to.

No. I have other styles people are likely to miss. Folks are used to seeing 100-1250 word flash NOT 8K 10K 12K tales of almost poetic prose.

What troubles me is the crappy stories with the high scores, and it pisses me off that the scores are fraud.

LC youre a dum mother fucker, I hate to say it; but you weren't here when I rode into Dodge and got a hostile reception for holding a different opinion about the orthodoxy of grammar rules. And I hit back when the gang piled on. So go fuck yourself and your troll bullshit.

 

[lovecraft68]

No. I have other styles people are likely to miss. Folks are used to seeing 100-1250 word flash NOT 8K 10K 12K tales of almost poetic prose.

What troubles me is the crappy stories with the high scores, and it pisses me off that the scores are fraud.

LC youre a dum mother fucker, I hate to say it; but you weren't here when I rode into Dodge and got a hostile reception for holding a different opinion about the orthodoxy of grammar rules. And I hit back when the gang piled on. So go fuck yourself and your troll bullshit.

No need to get nasty Jimmy.

Whether you were right or wrong with your points, the perceptions of the thin skinned here portrayed you as a troll and they are now laughing and bombing your stories. You know it, you call them the usual suspects.

If you want to consider it a badge of honor that you pissed them off, do so.

but fact is in life we reap what we sow and you sowed a lot of seeds in nasty soil here in petty land.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

No need to get nasty Jimmy.

Whether you were right or wrong with your points, the perceptions of the thin skinned here portrayed you as a troll and they are now laughing and bombing your stories. You know it, you call them the usual suspects.

If you want to consider it a badge of honor that you pissed them off, do so.

but fact is in life we reap what we sow and you sowed a lot of seeds in nasty soil here in petty land.

No, you and I are now at war.

 

[lovecraft68]

No, you and I are now at war.

Whatever makes you feel better.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Whatever makes you feel better.

Just so you know the score.

 

[sr71plt]

In the couple of stories of yours I've read here, JBJ, there's nothing particularly unorthodox in your writing style. It's distinct, not unorthodox. It also isn't particularly suited to this Web site. You lose the most votes because you have attacked others and their writing on this forum for years before showing any yourself and have repeatedly said that the stories here are crap. Of course your stories are going to be slammed if others have had to live with your barf for years and have an opportunity to return the favor. You brought this on yourself. You've been such an asshole to others that the result was pretty obvious.

You also lose votes because most of what you have posted is just snap-shot flash fiction and is grittier than the norm here and is more in-your-face than erotic. That, in itself, doesn't mean the writing isn't good--it means both that it isn't standard fare for this Web site and that you volunteered for bad ratings.

You told everyone you could do so much better and that you knew so much more about good writing than anyone else (and cited your pet authors incessantly) and then when you posted your little snippets of scenes and no one genuflected, you were surprised. upset, and felt wounded. Well, that's being naïve and stupid. And sort of amusing as well.

And, again, you have all of your ratings turned off. You have no idea where sustained access to rating your stories would go and you've just given up on the rating issue. You lost that war. You showed everyone that you were vulnerable to payback and you surrendered in a whimper and disgruntled complaints--which also is entertaining to those you shat on for years.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

The resident bar-fly has landed on the turd.

 

[sr71plt]

Yep, I think I landed on you with both feet. I'm not the least surprised that you don't have anything you can say about the substance of what I posted.

 

[HeyAll]

The other thing I have noticed is a lot of people "shop" by the feedback forum. It seems if I have a story that gets a comment it usually gets faved a couple of times shortly thereafter.
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I agree.

I check out the New Comments on the Incest Hubs, and every once and a while, you'll see someone leave a negative comment on a particular story, and then moments later you'll see another commentator rebuke that comment, even if the story is years old.

And on a similar note, a lot of readers seem to go directly to the Hub rather than the list, ever since the Hub was created. If my story gets approved at night, it starts getting views even though it hasn't appeared on the New List yet, but appears on the Incest Hub.

 

[sr71plt]

And on a similar note, a lot of readers seem to go directly to the Hub rather than the list, ever since the Hub was created. If my story gets approved at night, it starts getting views even though it hasn't appeared on the New List yet, but appears on the Incest Hub.

That was happening even before the Hubs were added. I've noted that stories post at different times even between the two computers I have sitting next to each other. Even stories that already were hot when they first appeared posted on my computers. All before their were Hubs. The technology gods having fun again is as close as I can figure it.

 

[HeyAll]

That's interesting. I've always wondered that as well, how sometimes a story will appear on the Hubris first, but sometimes it goes on the New List first- and the times vary.

Hopefully Laurel will shed some light on how per-approved late night stories get posted, or even new stories approved in the morning.

It's just something I've always been curious about on here.

 

[Darkniciad]

The new pages such as the hubs and narrower toplists seem to be trending toward the standard destination, rather than the new list. It makes sense, because wading through the New List can be a bit of a pain if you only read certain categories.

In some categories, that's a great thing. Your story can have a couple of days worth of top-level exposure in the hubs if not many stories post in the category. In others, it's a serious bane, because even a day-one story can fall off the small list of "recent stories" in the hubs.

The reason I know the shorter-time-range toplists are gaining more influence on readership is that I can see the change in frequency of voting and favorite activity as a high-read story draws closer to falling off the 1-year list. Most often, you steadily move up the list as earlier stories that have more views drop off, and there's a steady increase in activity on the story the closer it gets to the top. Then, when it falls off the list, the activity drops off dramatically as well.

I'm in the midst of a large spike of activity on "Mom's Second Chance" as it nears the end of its time on the 1-year toplist, because it's now decently positioned on page-1 of that list.

 

[sr71plt]

Mine that posted today (six days in pending) posted first in the hub and had 13 views before being listed on the "New" list.

 

[Darkniciad]

Lowborn's chapters after the first couple were averaging about 50 views before hitting the New stories list, but every chapter was linked from my web site, my mailing list, and social media as soon as it posted ( the advantages of being up late every night ) so people had direct links to the chapter before it appeared in any list on Lit. ( Well, semi-direct in the case of Facebook, which won't let you post links to Lit. Have to point to the link to Lit on my website instead ) That pollutes the data as it relates to Hub vs. New

When I was slow on the draw one night, that chapter hit about 15 views between Hub and the New List.

 

[lilmissj95]

Reading this thread is making me veeery nervous! I'm a novice writer with no real experience and I'm expecting my first submission to go live in the next few days.

I had no idea everyone here was so picky. It's nice to know that there's a part of the community that's discerning, but I'm also now expecting to be set alight on publication.

Also, hubs? Lists? 1 bombing? I think I'm just starting to know what I don't know. Brutal. Thanks for the heads up, though. I'm looking forward to everyone shitting on me at some point!

 

[stevieraygovan]

What in the world is a "hub"? That's a new one on me, but then I haven't posted anything in quite a while. Since I'm not too far out from posting another one, I suppose I should probably see about getting up to speed here.

Oh, and back to the main topic, the 1-bombings are still proceeding apace. Every time they run a sweep and my story goes back to the top spot, bam, right away some troll hits it with another couple of 1-bombs. 5, 5, 5, 5...1, 1! No in-between. These clowns just refuse to let it go.

 

[sr71plt]

What in the world is a "hub"? That's a new one on me, but then I haven't posted anything in quite a while. Since I'm not too far out from posting another one, I suppose I should probably see about getting up to speed here.

Oh, and back to the main topic, the 1-bombings are still proceeding apace. Every time they run a sweep and my story goes back to the top spot, bam, right away some troll hits it with another couple of 1-bombs. 5, 5, 5, 5...1, 1! No in-between. These clowns just refuse to let it go.

The categories have their own separate pages (the Web site called them hubs) accessed from the story page. Go there and look at the category listings below "New." Pick one and click on it. You're in a hub.

 

[HeyAll]

This is a Hub:

http://www.literotica.com/c/erotic-couplings

You probably already saw that but didn't know the name.

 

[stevieraygovan]

Hmmm, nope, I've never seen those before. But then I don't click on the categories when I hit "New Stories," I click on individual stories.

Anyway, thank you both for the explanations.