sub has its own definition or is an abbreviation for submissive...?

[malinborn]

...And if you dont like that I do that.. you can bite my left toe

I have bitten her toes and it's quite yummy

But I also agree... a Sub.. well, is submissive.. a submarine... a submarine hoagie... whatever.. it's all in the context and the company you keep. I am a sub. I am a subbie to my Domme... pet.. whatever.. it's what we like that matters

*smiles and bows*

 

[unfoundiamond]

oooo my .. I must have hit a sensative spot.
*snorts*
Thanks for not disappointing.
I see your pic on your profile... as stupid looking as you seem. heh

Done for real.. bye.

Good, you snort to show who you really are on the inside...

And BTW,

You never contributed anything, but thanx for keeping my thread up...

Come back and make a ass out of yourself anytime,

Maybe as some homework, ask your owner to teach you how to "agree to disagree", like an adult insted of resorting to personal attacks, because you lack the ability to express thoughts and feelings.

You make female pyls look bad, WriterDom even said, its only the female pyls that get offended... You look petty, and insecure. And I have seen your pictures, and I know why you are insecure.

I may have a wrong opinion, but that's the great thing, I can change my opinion, I can become more knowledgable... I hope you can learn to have a adult conversation, and change the opinion of you people are forming.

Its women like you who make us all look bad. People think women can't hold a logical dicussion or debate, because women like you are petty and insecure, you make a totally unrelated discussion a personal attack on Diamond, because that's all you have... the adult equivilent of "stupidhead"...

Can I resume the conversation after that less than delightful display of misdirected anger...

 

[EmpressFi]

you snort to show who you really are on the inside...

I snort when I find something really funny....

 

[Netzach]

Has the PYL/pyl thing been seen anywhere other than here?

I've never heard a Dom, Master, or Top get offended over what someone calls them.

Oh please, of course you have. But everyone points and laughs at the uptight noob Master So and So and gets on with life.

 

[Netzach]

You make female pyls look bad

Its women like you who make us all look bad. People think women can't hold a logical dicussion or debate, because women like you are petty and insecure
.

I don't care how high she managed to crawl up your butt to irritate you, if you're gonna pander to this, you've lost.

 

[WriterDom]

Oh please, of course you have. But everyone points and laughs at the uptight noob Master So and So and gets on with life.

Maybe from a noob. But the name game wars seem to cycle here about once a year.

 

[Netzach]

Maybe from a noob. But the name game wars seem to cycle here about once a year.

Year?

 

[WriterDom]

Season?

 

[nh23]

Maybe from a noob. But the name game wars seem to cycle here about once a year.

Really? I've never seen this before..but maybe I've not been here long enough. Or maybe more likely I didn't pay attention. It's not a hot button for me. I don't care what I'm called..sub, subbie, submissive, slut, bitch..*giggles*

 

[WriterDom]

I don't pay attention to every thread that pops up but it seems like it's been a while since we've had a "how do I make my vanilla partner more kinky" thread.

 

[Netzach]

Season?

Week.

 

[Netzach]

I don't pay attention to every thread that pops up but it seems like it's been a while since we've had a "how do I make my vanilla partner more kinky" thread.

I think we did that one sometime last week too, but I could be wrong.

 

[HottieMama]

i wanted to reply to this yesterday but just didn't have the time.

For me, it is all about the relationship between two people. Most people that do not know of my involvement in D/s, consider me a very aggressive, demanding person. Life has trained me to be that way. Very FEW people have ever seen my "submissive" side. Even less have seen my "little" side, and only one has seen anything that resembles a slave. i don't give myself a "blanket" label. i think that would be short-changing myself, and short-changing the growth and development possible in a relationship. What i can say with 100% certainty is that i am a bottom. The extent of that bottoming truly depends on the other half in the equation.

i completely disagree with WriterDom though. i know of several Doms that would get VERY pissed off if a sub called them Daddy. IMO, it is still one of those labels that is NOT completely accepted, at least not in heterosexual D/s relationships.

 

[Netzach]

i wanted to reply to this yesterday but just didn't have the time.

For me, it is all about the relationship between two people. Most people that do not know of my involvement in D/s, consider me a very aggressive, demanding person. Life has trained me to be that way. Very FEW people have ever seen my "submissive" side. Even less have seen my "little" side, and only one has seen anything that resembles a slave. i don't give myself a "blanket" label. i think that would be short-changing myself, and short-changing the growth and development possible in a relationship. What i can say with 100% certainty is that i am a bottom. The extent of that bottoming truly depends on the other half in the equation.

i completely disagree with WriterDom though. i know of several Doms that would get VERY pissed off if a sub called them Daddy. IMO, it is still one of those labels that is NOT completely accepted, at least not in heterosexual D/s relationships.

Pissed off or just "ew, please no, dear" ?

 

[WriterDom]

Well you are off in another subclass when you start talking about Daddies and their little girls.

 

[Primalex]

Doh, I'm too late, the mares stopped fighting already. Anyone needs some leftover popcorn?

 

[unfoundiamond]

well people...

I think I got my answers...

There are as many definitions for "sub" and submissive, as there are people to use them. It means diffrent things to diffrent people...

So when someone drops it with a totally diffrent definition, I am to asertain that this is what they mean by it.
(And not think I have the definition wrong)

I don't know how me thinking I may be misinformed, and seeking clarification, could turn into this.

I was not telling anyone anything, I was asking if I am wrong in thinking sub is a abbreviation...

I wanted to hear others opinions and make sure I was clear...

And Thanx to the people who gave me a response...
I appreciate it!

 

[lil_slave_rose]

I thought T/b was basically just sexual.

after almost 5 years in this lifestyle, i too thought T/b was mostly sexual *shrugs* atleast that's what i think of when i hear T/b

 

[lil_slave_rose]

Nope. Myself for example. Sometimes I need pain, just for pain's sake. A top can provide that pain for me, without any sexual activity at all. When I'm that way I want the pain but I don't want any sexual activity.

i guess that's where i get confused because i see 'pain' in that way as a 'sexual act' i mean no, there may not be intercourse, but to me, it's still sexual. it's 12:30 in the morning and i realize i'm not making sense and right now i can't think of a better way to explain my view....sorry

 

[nh23]

i guess that's where i get confused because i see 'pain' in that way as a 'sexual act' i mean no, there may not be intercourse, but to me, it's still sexual. it's 12:30 in the morning and i realize i'm not making sense and right now i can't think of a better way to explain my view....sorry

Nah it's ok. Everyone sees it different and I understand that. When I want pain for pain's sake..there isn't any sexual activity at all. My naughty bits aren't touched at all..and I don't orgasm. It's kind of a coping mechanism I guess. I need the pain on the outside to quiet the storm on the inside..that's why to me it's not sexual. On the other hand the majority of the time with my Dom pain play is included in sex..I see that as sexual. But, I also see that as part of the D/s relationship. When I'm just bottoming for the pain..I see that as just bottoming..it can get complicated I guess..lol

 

[lil_slave_rose]

I think I got my answers...

There are as many definitions for "sub" and submissive, as there are people to use them. It means diffrent things to diffrent people...

So when someone drops it with a totally diffrent definition, I am to asertain that this is what they mean by it.
(And not think I have the definition wrong)

I don't know how me thinking I may be misinformed, and seeking clarification, could turn into this.

I was not telling anyone anything, I was asking if I am wrong in thinking sub is a abbreviation...

I wanted to hear others opinions and make sure I was clear...

And Thanx to the people who gave me a response...
I appreciate it!

i wasn't aware that 'sub' meant anything other than 'submissive'. to me (and pretty much everyone that i know in this lifestyle) it's an abbreviation for the word submissive.....

 

[lil_slave_rose]

Nah it's ok. Everyone sees it different and I understand that. When I want pain for pain's sake..there isn't any sexual activity at all. My naughty bits aren't touched at all..and I don't orgasm. It's kind of a coping mechanism I guess. I need the pain on the outside to quiet the storm on the inside..that's why to me it's not sexual. On the other hand the majority of the time with my Dom pain play is included in sex..I see that as sexual. But, I also see that as part of the D/s relationship. When I'm just bottoming for the pain..I see that as just bottoming..it can get complicated I guess..lol

naw, not complicated , i get it

 

[Marquis]

i wasn't aware that 'sub' meant anything other than 'submissive'. to me (and pretty much everyone that i know in this lifestyle) it's an abbreviation for the word submissive.....

Yeah, sub is an abbreviation for the word submissive, wtf is this thread about?

 

[lil_slave_rose]

Yeah, sub is an abbreviation for the word submissive, wtf is this thread about?

*grins* my thoughts exactly! like i said i've never heard anyone say that 'sub' has another meaning besides being an abbreviation for submissive..maybe i've missed the point??

 

[BiBunny]

I really wish there were some way I could get my panties in a bunch about the terminology used for switches, but I can't, dammit. There's an unfortunate lack of labels for us to bitch about.