Submitting vs Playing

[MissTaken]

Hello Des. As one sub to another, you already know my answer to this and why I feel as I do.

Was great to talk to you yesterday. Have a great weekend.

Good morning, ADR.

I have missed you.



Hmmm Des, you did get right to the point I was seeking! Teh play party scenario or other scenarios....we may "play" with others out of acts of submission to our O/one.

 

[Desdemona]

Hello Des. As one sub to another, you already know my answer to this and why I feel as I do.

Was great to talk to you yesterday. Have a great weekend.

It was great talking to you too. Yes, I do know your position on this matter. We'll have a fabulous time, thanks!

 

[Desdemona]

Good morning, ADR.

I have missed you.



Hmmm Des, you did get right to the point I was seeking! Teh play party scenario or other scenarios....we may "play" with others out of acts of submission to our O/one.

Well, MissT, you actually asked the question I really wanted answered and you phrased it much better than I did. Thanks.

 

[FungiUg]

Re: Re: A bit of a different spin

FungiUg, I don't know what you look like, but having read your posts on this board, I can well imagine a smirk on your face as you role-play submission for fun. I'm sure your lover gets a kick out of seeing that smirk.

Check out either of my story links below. They have a pic of me.

Actually, you'd think my lover would enjoy my smirk, but she doesn't. It kinda takes the thrill out of it for her, because she knows I'm just going along with it, rather than getting off on being told what to do.

Alternatively, if I try and dominate her, her very clear "fuck off" puts paid to that idea!

 

[Desdemona]

Re: Re: Re: A bit of a different spin

Check out either of my story links below. They have a pic of me.

Actually, you'd think my lover would enjoy my smirk, but she doesn't. It kinda takes the thrill out of it for her, because she knows I'm just going along with it, rather than getting off on being told what to do.

Alternatively, if I try and dominate her, her very clear "fuck off" puts paid to that idea!

You have quite the mischevious glint in your eye. Great pic! Too bad she doesn't enjoy the smirk. I generally find it irresistable when Master starts smirking. LOL.

I really should pay more attention to sig lines. I miss out on all sorts of interesting things. (hmmmm, I wonder if I could parlay this into a spanking tonight ). FungiUg, I'll be reading your stories now that I see you've written some. Thanks for pointing it out!

 

[FungiUg]

Hmmm... I'll read yours if you read mine?

Start with the evyl twin ones. They're more recent.

 

[FungiUg]

Oooh yum! I loved the story on begging! Begging is one of my favourite things to hear from a submissive!!!

 

[Desdemona]

Oooh yum! I loved the story on begging! Begging is one of my favourite things to hear from a submissive!!!

Thanks. When I get home from work, I'll read your stuff.

 

[A Desert Rose]

Good morning, ADR.

I have missed you.

Thank you, I have missed YOU and many others, too.

 

[serijules]

Hmm, this question is interesting enough for me to come out of hiding and post a reply.

I attend play parties at least twice a year, weekend-long parties with a lot of close friends. I play with many people during those weekends, but I submit to few. I do however, submit to many SCENES...but not neccesarily the person/people involved in the scene with me.

For instance, there is a man that canes me, and we play at least 1-2 times every party for a rather intense caning scene. The cane makes me feel very submissive. I totally respect the man that canes me, but I don't submit to him. We have no such relationship in which that would be proper. However, I do submit to the scene. There are a handful of people in which I play with in this manner, sometimes very erotic intense scenes including everything from bondage, to sexual play, pain play, etc. It is always very clear that they are the Dominant and I am the submissive...within the scene.

Now, add my Domme to the mix...when I play with her at the parties, I am submitting to her, no matter how casual the play is, and even when we are NOT playing. The difference is, is that it is an ongoing thing. The actual physical play is not a determining factor into the fact that I am submitting to her. She has control over me in many ways....she can deny me to play with others, she can order me to play with others, she can, well heck she can do anything with me that she wants, thus, I am always submitting to her on some level or another. I never play with her without submitting to her on some level, some levels stronger than others.

(I'm just babbling here, there is no order or coherance to this post reply so if you aren't following me, that's ok, there's nothing to follow really <g>)

During a normal play party weekend, I would say that I spend a large amount of my time there submitting. However, there is really only one person that I am submitting to...the rest of the time, I am submitting to my own desires to bottom in a scene, or I am submitting to the sensations and experiences and I'm sharing those with my play partner without actually submitting TO them. It works well, and it is proper for what our relationships are. Can make for some very intense scenes/play that is in no way diminished because my submission is not actually to them.

So yes, there is a difference, but I do believe you can submit while playing without actually submitting TO anyone in particular.

Well now, a prize to anyone that can tell me how many times I said "submit" or some form of, in this post *giggle*

 

[Desdemona]

Hmm, this question is interesting enough for me to come out of hiding and post a reply.

I attend play parties at least twice a year, weekend-long parties with a lot of close friends. I play with many people during those weekends, but I submit to few. I do however, submit to many SCENES...but not neccesarily the person/people involved in the scene with me.

For instance, there is a man that canes me, and we play at least 1-2 times every party for a rather intense caning scene. The cane makes me feel very submissive. I totally respect the man that canes me, but I don't submit to him. We have no such relationship in which that would be proper. However, I do submit to the scene. There are a handful of people in which I play with in this manner, sometimes very erotic intense scenes including everything from bondage, to sexual play, pain play, etc. It is always very clear that they are the Dominant and I am the submissive...within the scene.

Now, add my Domme to the mix...when I play with her at the parties, I am submitting to her, no matter how casual the play is, and even when we are NOT playing. The difference is, is that it is an ongoing thing. The actual physical play is not a determining factor into the fact that I am submitting to her. She has control over me in many ways....she can deny me to play with others, she can order me to play with others, she can, well heck she can do anything with me that she wants, thus, I am always submitting to her on some level or another. I never play with her without submitting to her on some level, some levels stronger than others.

(I'm just babbling here, there is no order or coherance to this post reply so if you aren't following me, that's ok, there's nothing to follow really <g>)

During a normal play party weekend, I would say that I spend a large amount of my time there submitting. However, there is really only one person that I am submitting to...the rest of the time, I am submitting to my own desires to bottom in a scene, or I am submitting to the sensations and experiences and I'm sharing those with my play partner without actually submitting TO them. It works well, and it is proper for what our relationships are. Can make for some very intense scenes/play that is in no way diminished because my submission is not actually to them.

So yes, there is a difference, but I do believe you can submit while playing without actually submitting TO anyone in particular.

Well now, a prize to anyone that can tell me how many times I said "submit" or some form of, in this post *giggle*

Very interesting post. You should come out of hiding more often! Thank you.

 

[AngelicAssassin]

Re: ABC's, Snack Time and Story Time

Bring on the dodge ball cuz i ain't movin' Well, only to turn and present a target

Chuckling here in a major way.

You were the girl i always had a hard time pulling the trigger on ... not because of a lack of challenge, but rather a tender moment.

Guess what?

You got nailed every time anyway.

 

[s'lara]

Re: Re: ABC's, Snack Time and Story Time

Chuckling here in a major way.

You were the girl i always had a hard time pulling the trigger on ... not because of a lack of challenge, but rather a tender moment.

Guess what?

You got nailed every time anyway.

i figured my delicate visage wouldn't stop anyone from hurling the big red ball at me. Just the opposite in fact. Something about turning your back to run and presenting yourself as a target that just brings out the predator in some people. *rubs her head* i used to wish the target was lower. Round, air-filled objects tend to sting real nicely through thin gym shorts. Even the "boing" was good.

lara

lara

 

[AngelicAssassin]

Dodgeball again

... just brings out the predator in some people. *rubs her head* i used to wish the target was lower. Round, air-filled objects tend to sting real nicely through thin gym shorts. Even the "boing" was good.

lara

lara

Watch a big cat hunting alone on a nature channel some time. The paw with claws that lashes out invariably strikes the prey's hip. What follows, the furball and cloud of dust, ends with the prey's throat grasped firmly by the hunter's fangs.

Follow the hips, and you don't miss a target.

i never went for the head nor back of a fleeing target. i always aimed at the legs just above the knees. A gym coach or recess monitor could never complain about playing to win. Something about the delivery of that delicious sting and knowing the target would walk out around with it hidden the rest of the day ... sung to the sadist in me.

 

[Desdemona]

So, AngelicAssassin, if you were to direct your submissive to scene with another, would she be playing or submitting to the one she scened with?

 

[AngelicAssassin]

So, AngelicAssassin, if you were to direct your submissive to scene with another, would she be playing or submitting to the one she scened with?

My apologies for taking my sweet time getting to this. Real Life does intrude sometimes.

One would have to assume i'd walk down that path to begin with correct?

But for the sake of the question ...

When i chose, i chose well. When i hold a leash, i hold it quite firmly.

She would have no doubt in her mind, body, or soul to whom she submitted; until the end of days ...

 

[catalina_francisco]

My apologies for taking my sweet time getting to this. Real Life does intrude sometimes.

One would have to assume i'd walk down that path to begin with correct?

But for the sake of the question ...

When i chose, i chose well. When i hold a leash, i hold it quite firmly.

She would have no doubt in her mind, body, or soul to whom she submitted; until the end of days ...

I agree. For me, I submit to one alone, and that is the way it will be for all time. If another is involved in any way, they are mearly a tool, and as such I am playing and interacting with that tool, while submitting to Master.

Catalina

 

[Desdemona]

My apologies for taking my sweet time getting to this. Real Life does intrude sometimes.

One would have to assume i'd walk down that path to begin with correct?

But for the sake of the question ...

When i chose, i chose well. When i hold a leash, i hold it quite firmly.

She would have no doubt in her mind, body, or soul to whom she submitted; until the end of days ...

No apology necessary. I live in the real world as well. Gotta hate when it intrudes upon our online life. LOL.

You're right, it is merely for the sake of the question. Your answer is the same as mine. I submit to one. Thank you.

 

[Desdemona]

I agree. For me, I submit to one alone, and that is the way it will be for all time. If another is involved in any way, they are mearly a tool, and as such I am playing and interacting with that tool, while submitting to Master.

Catalina

I'm with you!

 

[TwistaFate]

games are for children

I say that games are for kids, When i was a child i did childish things, but as i grew" ok i still do childish things, but there is a difference"svae the playing for the sand box.

 

[stephb]

So far, I've only gotten to have the play. I was waiting for someone who made me feel like I could completely submit. I've since found that person, and I'm waiting for the day I can finally go meet Him.

I think the main reason is that I don't want to play anymore. While I can be as much of a SAM as the next person, I want someone who can push me into that space where I am giving my all to them and only them. I need the complete surrender.

So playing and submission are very different to me.

 

[Desdemona]

TwistaFate and stephb, thank you both for your thoughtful replies. I look forward to seeing more of your posts.

 

[catalina_francisco]

LOL, yes I am resurrecting another poll, but an interesting one, no?!!

Catalina

 

[AngelicAssassin]

+90% Agreement?

LOL, yes I am resurrecting another poll, but an interesting one, no?!!

Catalina

Very Interesting.

"If you want dodgeball victory, you've gotta grab it by its haunches and you gotta hump it into submission - that's the only way!

 

[Kajira Callista]

hmm i didnt read the whole thing but here is my 25 cents.
Wouldnt a submissive have to kinda submit in order to play effectively with a dominant type?