Taboo. Open discussion, no attitude.

Chris_Xavier said:
I can think of some differences but I won't go there.. yet..

I personally think that any sort of government control over personal desires (sexual preferences, number of kids) you are opening the door for all sorts of impingements on our personal freedoms.

Oh bugger it... We can't even manage to get a "Don't Have any more damned kids while you're on welfare" Law passed...
Or a "No, the state should not have to pay for illegal aliens" law...

I think that shows we're pretty fooked on all the rest....
 
graceanne said:
I'm about to agree with you and that scares me. :p

I would NEVER NEVER NEVER trust any govt, but especially ours, with that kinda decision. Sounds like screwing with people's right to choose, to me. Why don't we just call ourselves China?

Yah know...With all due respect to the folks arguing the point...It's BS...

Birth rates already modify themselves... We've had very worrying statistical proof of this for years...

Unfortunately.... Those statistics show that the best educated, most productive, etc etc etc.. Segments of the world population... Have the fewest kids..

Aint that a pisser......
 
The thing with selective breeding is that it wouldn't have to be forced, coerced or anything like that. It wouldn't even have to be state sanctioned.

The whole thing could exist in the form of a quasi underground society that spans the whole globe and is made up of volunteers. Something like a non-profit organization operating with a global headquarters somewhere with the purpose of taking the human race to the limits of performance.

Okay, imagine something like the church of scientology but with no religious slant. The society would be open for volunteers to join and each member would have to go through rigorous testing, complete family and medical history, geneaology, etc... There would be different levels with the lightest being something like just being on the list of potential genetic donors who want a place in the project all the way up to fully invested lifestylers who actually run the society 24/7.

The society would reinvest any monies/properties that are donated or collected in furthering their vision of the future of humanity, could provide educational opportunities and other benefits for members and the offspring that are brought into being. It could even run profitable businesses that are tied to the parent company (society) in order to sustain and refine it.

It would be at the least interesting to put a think tank together to determine the feasibility of such a project.
 
Betticus said:
The thing with selective breeding is that it wouldn't have to be forced, coerced or anything like that. It wouldn't even have to be state sanctioned.

The whole thing could exist in the form of a quasi underground society that spans the whole globe and is made up of volunteers. Something like a non-profit organization operating with a global headquarters somewhere with the purpose of taking the human race to the limits of performance.

Okay, imagine something like the church of scientology but with no religious slant. The society would be open for volunteers to join and each member would have to go through rigorous testing, complete family and medical history, geneaology, etc... There would be different levels with the lightest being something like just being on the list of potential genetic donors who want a place in the project all the way up to fully invested lifestylers who actually run the society 24/7.

The society would reinvest any monies/properties that are donated or collected in furthering their vision of the future of humanity, could provide educational opportunities and other benefits for members and the offspring that are brought into being. It could even run profitable businesses that are tied to the parent company (society) in order to sustain and refine it.

It would be at the least interesting to put a think tank together to determine the feasibility of such a project.

So you are proposing that we breed a race of "supermen"?
 
Life_Noir said:
Yah know...With all due respect to the folks arguing the point...It's BS...

Birth rates already modify themselves... We've had very worrying statistical proof of this for years...

Unfortunately.... Those statistics show that the best educated, most productive, etc etc etc.. Segments of the world population... Have the fewest kids..

Aint that a pisser......

It's kind of hard to fit them into postindustrial high power schedule (college, postgrad in most cases if you really want to get ahead and then 60+ hour weeks) you either have children raised by other people, in which case you're just breeding to say you did, or you are going to fall to the wayside financially as you prioritize your family. It's fine to prioritize your children and your lineage over any and all else, but then you've got something that's going to require more attention than climbing the social ladder. Pretty much worldwide, now. In rural nonindustrial environments, you still have the likelihood of kids not reaching maturity (likewise in dangerous urban environments, like a Brazilian Favela) as well as agrarian values systems whether "lots of kids" fits into a viable financial construct or not. (what IS viable on 150 USD per year?) Add in lack of access to birth control and sex ed with the reality that people like to fuck, rich or poor. Especially under stressors that the average fed and housed westerner can't possibly fathom.

But no, no, let's export "abstinence" programs to the furthest corners of the world and cut sexual education and birth control from the program...
 
graceanne said:
Not normally. Normally they just wake up that way. :rolleyes:

Now, I'm a heavy sleeper, but even I would wake up to being tied and gagged.

I readily admit that I would sleep through being tied and gagged. I was living about an hour from the San Andreas Fault in California back in 1989, when the big earthquake hit (7.0 on the Richter scale, I believe...) and I slept right through every freaking aftershock that hit us. heheheh

I also slept through several tornados in Nebraska.
 
tanijaana said:
I readily admit that I would sleep through being tied and gagged. I was living about an hour from the San Andreas Fault in California back in 1989, when the big earthquake hit (7.0 on the Richter scale, I believe...) and I slept right through every freaking aftershock that hit us. heheheh

I also slept through several tornados in Nebraska.

I know how you feel.. I sleep like a log once I go down for the night.
 
Betticus said:
Ok, I have a thought. Let's say that we pass a new, very strict law regarding breeding in this here United States. Every baby born gets some kind of reversible birth control device implanted. At the ripe age of something to be determined later, probably the same as the drinking age the person can at that time or any time after apply for a license to breed which would include removal of the birth control device and restoral of reproductive function. The same would go for anyone immigrating to the U.S. Welcome to the U.S.A. and congrats on your acceptance as a potential citizen, now just line up for the mandatory birth control device and we'll see later if you can qualify to reproduce.

That as well as selective breeding should really curb a lot of our social problems. As well as instant and permanent sterilization for anyone convicted of a felony.

Imagine, no more unwanted babies, no more crowds of people waiting to be next on the Jerry Springer show. No more G.W. Bush's.


I'm with you. The line starts right there... participation is not voluntary.

While you're in line, let's just implant this chip from the antichrist as well. It wont even cost you anything, all curtesy of Uncle Sam.


*wipes the dripping sarcasm from my lips and blows you a kiss*


No, seriously, something like that is not a bad idea at all. We have really overpopulated the planet. Something needs to be done.
 
serijules said:
Um, to show your support of the group? LOL

Doesn't seem all that dumb to me *shrugs*


It really is just a personal peeve. *shrug* It drives me crazy like fingernails on a blackboard. Don't you have things like that?




You know what I like the most about this thread?

the whole ' no attitude' thing really seems to be sticking with everyone. This is a truly amazing thread.

Tell your friends!
 
skittles_lm said:
I'm with you. The line starts right there... participation is not voluntary.

While you're in line, let's just implant this chip from the antichrist as well. It wont even cost you anything, all curtesy of Uncle Sam.

But didn't you know? The antichrist has already implanted that chip and it's called . . . Visa. :eek:

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/a/a4/95px-Experiment383-Swirly.gif

No, I don't REALLY believe that. Get a sense of humor, people.
 
Oh, you girls brought up another big taboo that is being shredded.

Government taking control of peoples lives.

The whole "big brother" phenomena. Take a look at the patriot act.
 
Betticus said:
Oh, you girls brought up another big taboo that is being shredded.

Government taking control of peoples lives.

The whole "big brother" phenomena. Take a look at the patriot act.


Big Brother came along long before the Patriot Act - he showed up when Amazon.com started tracking your buying preferences and making recommendations based upon those preferences.
 
Chris_Xavier said:
Big Brother came along long before the Patriot Act - he showed up when Amazon.com started tracking your buying preferences and making recommendations based upon those preferences.

Psst...Amazon isn't the government.
 
Betticus said:
Oh, you girls brought up another big taboo that is being shredded.

Government taking control of peoples lives.

The whole "big brother" phenomena. Take a look at the patriot act.

You know what I find funny. The balance of power shifts. People aren't thinking. Those who really like a right wing gov't with special powers, wanted to kill the filibuster, etc. etc. are going to get a rude awakening when the pendulum swings again, and all of a sudden you really DO have pseudomarxist "oh it's best for everyone" peeping toms running wild, with all kinds of new bullshit justifications for the security of all. Constitution as toilet paper is a really bad precedent. We really are Rome.
 
Netzach said:
You know what I find funny. The balance of power shifts. People aren't thinking. Those who really like a right wing gov't with special powers, wanted to kill the filibuster, etc. etc. are going to get a rude awakening when the pendulum swings again, and all of a sudden you really DO have pseudomarxist "oh it's best for everyone" peeping toms running wild, with all kinds of new bullshit justifications for the security of all. Constitution as toilet paper is a really bad precedent. We really are Rome.
And unfortunately it seems that you have to be a right-wing preacher or congressperson to get one of the best-looking servant boys. ;)
 
midwestyankee said:
And unfortunately it seems that you have to be a right-wing preacher or congressperson to get one of the best-looking servant boys. ;)


Shit, I think you can try for fellatio with a $20, though. Where's Kenneth Star when there's a real national security crisis like a 'pub sucking cock?
 
intothewoods said:
Psst...Amazon isn't the government.

Okay.. I'll qualify and expand..

Amazon.com, Kroger, and a bunch more private entities track your buying habits with club cards, etc.

Don't think that if deemed necessary that the government would hesitate to subpoena those records and find out how much milk you've been buying.
 
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