Tales from the front lines

[DeservingBitch]

Oh God. Billy. I think every Domme has Billy times 10 or 20. Substitute the fucking for tying teasing getting to know you games, and it's the same gig.

I played with them till I got really sick of it. It's fun for a while, but you can't really get anywhere unless you ARE also a shrink, and I'm not. But work it till you can't, don't be afraid to dance with the slightly annoying till the scales tip - they'll either get less annoying or way more annoying.

Oh really?

So, it wasn't me who couldn't figure him out. It's him.

I may see him again at least once, just to see if I can get him to be more fun and less annoying. So far, he's the kinkiest guy I've seen, so I'm inclined to see him again. But we'll have to do something with this attitude of his or it ain't gonna work for me.

 

[DeservingBitch]

This makes a lot of sense to me. Linking it to what I do, (sorry, but it is my only way of relating. If it is annoying please tell me and I'll go back to lurking. This is all just so fascinating to me how closely it is to my job- just on a different end of the spectrum.) I've had plenty of new mothers who've never even held a baby before much less fed them, changed them, or burped them get nit-picky over every little thing I do and how I do it. This sort of attitude makes me want to say, "Look you are paying me to do a job and teach you how to do these things. While you are the parent and I want to follow your needs and requirements, you need to let me do the job you hired me for. I didn't get ten years of experience at this by just standing by twiddling my thumbs. If that is what you want to pay me for... fine by me, just let me know before hand."

As I said earlier in the thread, I think that there's a lot in sex work that relates to any other caring/reproductive work. There's also quite a few interesting books written on the sex economy which make the argument that sex workers and domestic workers (such as nannies and maids) are part of the same reproductive economy with similar working conditions.

Back to what you said there. I have the same reaction to this attitude: Go ahead and tell me what kind of experience you're looking for and what stuff you're into. But I'm the professional here, so let me do my job without too much interference. I promise you you'll have a better time if you let me drive than if you give me a script to follow.

I like Netzach's analogy: you tell your hairdresser the look you want, not how to cut hair.

 

[DeservingBitch]

*stalking DB*

Maybe I should start charging a stalking rate?

But since you're an old time regular, it'll stay free of charge for you ITW. Stalk away!

 

[SweetGigi]

As I said earlier in the thread, I think that there's a lot in sex work that relates to any other caring/reproductive work. There's also quite a few interesting books written on the sex economy which make the argument that sex workers and domestic workers (such as nannies and maids) are part of the same reproductive economy with similar working conditions.

Back to what you said there. I have the same reaction to this attitude: Go ahead and tell me what kind of experience you're looking for and what stuff you're into. But I'm the professional here, so let me do my job without too much interference. I promise you you'll have a better time if you let me drive than if you give me a script to follow.

I like Netzach's analogy: you tell your hairdresser the look you want, not how to cut hair.

I have slowly started coming to this same realization as well. Domestic services are simply that; services preformed for or in the home or within 'homelife'. I think this is one of the reasons I am warming to the idea of escorting, however I'm still not sure how or where to get involved in it. I also know I'd have to slowly work into the sex aspect of it. I tend to attach quite a bit of emotion to sex and don't know if I could be detached from it. Certainly is an interesting notion, though.

 

[Netzach]

Talking about money assholes:

My first call last night was in the richest gated neibouhrood in town. The guy lives in a few millions worth mansion, apparently all by himself. So, I get in, exchanges politeness, take off my coat, chit chat while I follow him to the living room.

Normally, that's the time when the guy gives me an enveloppe with the money, which I count discretely and then call my driver to confirm that everything is OK. But no, this guy is going to have me ask for the money. I hate when they do that. So, I asked him if we could take care of the business stuff so that I can call my driver and we can focus on having fun. He goes all surprised "oh yes yes of course!". Give me a break -- I know he's a regular client and therefore that he knows the drill.

So, he start counting the money, one 20$ bill at a time. I'm counting along in my head, and when he hands me the money, I know that there's 20$ missing. So, I count it not very discretely in front of him, and tell him that there's 20 missing. He gives me the surprised and confused look again. For fuck sake -- do I look stupid to you? Once I get all my money, I call my driver and go on with the date.

But seriously, why pull that kind of shit? You're hiring someone to fuck you, and you're cheaping out on her rates? Do you really think it's a good way to put me in the mood to give you a good time asshole?

Jesus.

I'd pull off his dick just as he was about to cum. Worth the twenty bucks. Of course that would go over better if you're an indi and had no one else to answer to. I don't know how you can do it. Just police your energy levels carefully, I can't even imagine. I used to get really intense colds and flus and it wasn't that they were all bug ridden, it was the energy stuff. Just touching someone that negative on the skin would do it to me - I know that sounds really woo woo weird, but it just seems to be the case.

Reproductive work has some overlap, but so does health care, believe it or not. You are dealing with psychic woo woo stuff and a lot of touching the way MD's and acupuncturists and massage therapists are - I actually had some of my best advice and conversations with people who did non-sexual body work.

 

[DeservingBitch]

I have slowly started coming to this same realization as well. Domestic services are simply that; services preformed for or in the home or within 'homelife'. I think this is one of the reasons I am warming to the idea of escorting, however I'm still not sure how or where to get involved in it. I also know I'd have to slowly work into the sex aspect of it. I tend to attach quite a bit of emotion to sex and don't know if I could be detached from it. Certainly is an interesting notion, though.

If you are ever interested in reading a scholar analysis on domestic/sex work, I recommend the following: Anna Agathangelou (2004) The Global Political Economy of Sex (New York: Palgrave Macmillan). She argues and illustrates something very close to what you just said there: that domestic and sex work serve to reproduce the 'home' and the idea of 'home' for the white middle-class.
Anne McClintock, in Imperial Leather makes a really interesting argument about Freud's theories and his relationship with his nanny. Basically arguing that Freud's relationship with his nanny heavily inflect his theories at the same time as he erases her and his relationship with her, transposing his desires/frustrations toward his nanny (who is both the disciplinarian and the caring figure of his childhood) and splitting them between his 'pure' mother and his father. The nanny is the specter in Freud's theory, an abject without whom Freud's theories wouldn't have been made possible, but who cannot be spoken of.

Back to what you say about sex and detaching it from emotions. I don't think you can completely detach sex from emotions. I don't think you can ever detach yourself from emotions period.

But there's a range of emotions that can come into play when fucking for money, and it's all about what you do with those and how you deal with it. I've mentioned power a few times already. Power is an emotion that is very much present for me when I'm doing this job. But as evident by what OSG and I are saying, power is felt quite differently in our resepctive experience, and we deal with it or act on it differently.

In my experience so far, the closest I get to being completely detached from the person I'm with is when they say something stupid or annoying or which tickles me the wrong way. When this happens, no matter what is going on at the moment, I go to this place where I look at the person from a very detached, 'rational', and analytical space. Basically, the academic in me takes over, and I start theorizing in my head what is going on and where this comment came from. I think this is one of my coping-mechanism: theorizing is by definition a very cold, detached, and abstract way of relating to reality. So by going into theorizing mode, I detach myself from what annoyed or offended me. But of course, the very reason why I go into this mode is BECAUSE emotions were present -- too present.

On a related note, I think that being queer and not fucking men in my personal life makes it very easy for me to compartmentalize the job part from the sex for fun part.

Now, on an unrelated note: thanks guys for indulging me and getting involved in this thread. It's a lot of fun, but also gives me a lot to think about.

 

[BiBunny]

*Sigh* If I were thin and lived somewhere other than Alabama, I'd love to have DB's job.

 

[Homburg]

Jesus.

I'd pull off his dick just as he was about to cum. Worth the twenty bucks. Of course that would go over better if you're an indi and had no one else to answer to. I don't know how you can do it. Just police your energy levels carefully, I can't even imagine. I used to get really intense colds and flus and it wasn't that they were all bug ridden, it was the energy stuff. Just touching someone that negative on the skin would do it to me - I know that sounds really woo woo weird, but it just seems to be the case.

I've dealt with toxic energy bottoms. Ugh. No thank you.

 

[MzChrista]

Eh - when I'm not whoring, thinking and writting about this stuff is what I do for a living. Well, I'm actually NOT making a living out of it (otherwise I wouldn't be whoring), but you get my point.


Yes, I do have a driver. Being with a driver and an agency does a lot in terms of providing security. The guys know that there's someone who's going to come looking for me if I'm not out by the time I should be. I also have to call my driver between the first 5-10 minutes of getting in the place to confirm that everything is fine, the money is there, and there's not 5 other unexpected guys in the room. If I don't call, don't answer my phone, or I call and use my safeword, the driver comes looking for me. The guys know that as well.

Of course, something bad could still happen. But I don't need to get naked in a room with a guy for something bad to happen to me -- walking around with a pussy is in itself a risk.

No doubt.

Heres the thing though. I think there is a distinct danger in Domming that is probably less likely in escorting (If Im wrong, school me) And that is the instant freak out. See, your precautions make sense if the client is able to see that he cant get away with hurting you. But every Domme I know whos done it long as had a guy just lose his mind on them. Like, right in the middle of a whipping on an assfuck something in his brain clicks and he gets overtaken by memories of being an abused child or whatever and he lashes out. Or sometimes, its just you come across a guy who thinks he wants pain but instead of getting a release it builds into a rage inside him.

He can be the nicest guy in the world one minute and a rampaging Viking berserker the next. Theres no way to predict.

 

[SweetGigi]

If you are ever interested in reading a scholar analysis on domestic/sex work, I recommend the following: Anna Agathangelou (2004) The Global Political Economy of Sex (New York: Palgrave Macmillan). She argues and illustrates something very close to what you just said there: that domestic and sex work serve to reproduce the 'home' and the idea of 'home' for the white middle-class.
Anne McClintock, in Imperial Leather makes a really interesting argument about Freud's theories and his relationship with his nanny. Basically arguing that Freud's relationship with his nanny heavily inflect his theories at the same time as he erases her and his relationship with her, transposing his desires/frustrations toward his nanny (who is both the disciplinarian and the caring figure of his childhood) and splitting them between his 'pure' mother and his father. The nanny is the specter in Freud's theory, an abject without whom Freud's theories wouldn't have been made possible, but who cannot be spoken of.

Back to what you say about sex and detaching it from emotions. I don't think you can completely detach sex from emotions. I don't think you can ever detach yourself from emotions period.

But there's a range of emotions that can come into play when fucking for money, and it's all about what you do with those and how you deal with it. I've mentioned power a few times already. Power is an emotion that is very much present for me when I'm doing this job. But as evident by what OSG and I are saying, power is felt quite differently in our resepctive experience, and we deal with it or act on it differently.

In my experience so far, the closest I get to being completely detached from the person I'm with is when they say something stupid or annoying or which tickles me the wrong way. When this happens, no matter what is going on at the moment, I go to this place where I look at the person from a very detached, 'rational', and analytical space. Basically, the academic in me takes over, and I start theorizing in my head what is going on and where this comment came from. I think this is one of my coping-mechanism: theorizing is by definition a very cold, detached, and abstract way of relating to reality. So by going into theorizing mode, I detach myself from what annoyed or offended me. But of course, the very reason why I go into this mode is BECAUSE emotions were present -- too present.

On a related note, I think that being queer and not fucking men in my personal life makes it very easy for me to compartmentalize the job part from the sex for fun part.

Now, on an unrelated note: thanks guys for indulging me and getting involved in this thread. It's a lot of fun, but also gives me a lot to think about.

Thank you so much for the insight and the references. It is a pleasure to pick your brain and learn more about something that is so fascinating to me. So thank you!!

 

[MzChrista]

Wow, DB, your are reading my mind almost perfectly.

Only a few slight alterations.

With the feminine, I'm more ready to give courtesy and respect, to give it earlier, and to give it more 'freely' if you will. Which of course doesn't mean that the respect is always deserved. The masculine however have to work to get my respect. I won't grant courtesy or respect by default and I'm more likely to be on my guard for a bad sign and to set up some kind of 'tests' for them.

But I got to disagree too.

However I have always thought of an escort differently. If I was to higher one, they would then be providing me with service, I could tell them to do anything I pleased. If you don’t like it get out, but if I’m not satisfied I’m not paying a cent.

Except you arent just buying a service you are also paying for her time.

 

[DeservingBitch]

Jesus.

I'd pull off his dick just as he was about to cum. Worth the twenty bucks. Of course that would go over better if you're an indi and had no one else to answer to. I don't know how you can do it. Just police your energy levels carefully, I can't even imagine. I used to get really intense colds and flus and it wasn't that they were all bug ridden, it was the energy stuff. Just touching someone that negative on the skin would do it to me - I know that sounds really woo woo weird, but it just seems to be the case.

Reproductive work has some overlap, but so does health care, believe it or not. You are dealing with psychic woo woo stuff and a lot of touching the way MD's and acupuncturists and massage therapists are - I actually had some of my best advice and conversations with people who did non-sexual body work.

This stuff you say about bad energy and body work (sexual or not) is actually almost word for word what the owner of the agency told me. I think I'm going to do some research on this to find some good read about it.

As for the guy, I didn't pull off his dick, but he certainly didn't get the experience that I normally provide when you don't try to fuck me over on my rates. Good thing I have a vivid imagination too: the stuff he went through in my head...

I also told my driver about it as soon as I got in the car and the word is going to be passed around to the other girls. I'm also not seeing him again. That's one of the good thing about working with an agency -- while in some ways I don't have much of a say into who I'm seeing because I'm not the one doing the filtering, I also can easily say 'I'm not seeing this guy again' without it hurting me money wise. There's enough of a client-base that refusing to see him again is not going to affect my revenu.

And of course, there's the great clients that balance it out. Last guy I saw last night was a blast. The hotel room was amazingly cozy, he had great music on, we smoked cigarettes and had a scotch while having an interesting talk, he smells great (I'm very much influenced by smell), and when we get to business, he lets me drive the ride, he responds well to my dirty perv talk, responds very well to my bitting and not so gentle touch, and we're having a great fuck. And I leave the room with a more than generous tip. This is one of those moment when I can't believe I'm being paid that much money to have fun.

 

[MzChrista]

The way it works is that you pay, and then we get to the fun. If you are not having the fun you want, I can leave, but whether you get money back is up to me.

What you describe would be the type of client that I dislike. The ones that give you a frickin' script. Meh.

Talking of which, I had the oddest client tonight. Lets call him Billy.

So, I get to Billy's condo. My first look at him and exchange of politeness tells me he is socially challenged, awkward, obsessive-compulsive, odd, shy, probably very well read, and he certainly doesn't get laid for free very often. I have pinned him down as submissive. He had this vibe going on.

So, we chat a bit, all my first impressions are confirmed. Fast forward to when everbody's naked, and the guy is giving me a detailed script of what to do how to do it where to do it, as well as giving a running commentary of the performance going on. Coupled with his complete lack of sexual skills, he is starting to annoy the shit out of me.

But he's mostly confusing me -- he is sometimes giving me a strong submissive vibe, and at other times not at all. He is all about being soft and slow and gentle, but then he wants me to squeaze his dick. And a bunch of other things like that which don't add up to something that makes sense to me. Middle session, he ask if I would be freaked out to put a toy up his butt. Me, of course, I'm glowing. Finally, we're talking! But not really. He continues giving me a fucking script along the way, wanting everything to be super soft, and just generally being a finicky kid sorta. Fast forward to the end of the session, we're running out of time, and Billy still has yet to come. I finally grew out of patience, and my Domme voice came out, and I'm there telling him to cum, now! The guy exploded right away.

So, I'm not completely wrong. There's a submissive in there. But probably the most aggravating submissive and do-me-bottom I've ever met.

I have a feeling he'll want to see me again. Trouble is, I'm not sure whether a) I never want to take this guy again; or b) I really want to see him again, just to figure him out and maybe get that submissive thing out of him and go with nobody else's script but mine. Weird, no?

Thats exactly the kind of thing I was talking about earlier.


"Dominate me Mistress. No, not like that. I want to be your slave. Stop that I dont like it. Make me beg. No thats not what I want to beg for."

Jesus Christ shut the fuck up or I'll leave you tied up and pull the fire alarm.

 

[SweetGigi]

...Jesus Christ shut the fuck up or I'll leave you tied up and pull the fire alarm.

*sniggers* another great mental image floats into my brain.

 

[ownedsubgal]

No doubt.

Heres the thing though. I think there is a distinct danger in Domming that is probably less likely in escorting (If Im wrong, school me) And that is the instant freak out. See, your precautions make sense if the client is able to see that he cant get away with hurting you. But every Domme I know whos done it long as had a guy just lose his mind on them. Like, right in the middle of a whipping on an assfuck something in his brain clicks and he gets overtaken by memories of being an abused child or whatever and he lashes out. Or sometimes, its just you come across a guy who thinks he wants pain but instead of getting a release it builds into a rage inside him.

He can be the nicest guy in the world one minute and a rampaging Viking berserker the next. Theres no way to predict.

MzChrista, i think that may be true from both the Domme and sub escorting sides. as i was saying earlier, i'm always wary of a client snapping on me. like there's one guy (actually a lifestyle Dom) who likes to choke/strangle me as he's cumming, and he'll have his hand squeezing my neck so tightly that my eyes roll back and my head feels like it's about to explode. in those moments i'm thinking, what's to stop him from going all the way? what's to say that he won't lose all control himself (as he is in what i consider to a man's most aggressive state...the drive to orgasm) and accidentally send me to the morgue?

but at least with him i pretty much know what to expect from start to finish. what can be even scarier are the sweet, nice ultra-vanilla guys who start off treating you like they're courting the girl of their dreams and then all of a sudden during the course of things flip into Hannibal or something. for some of these guys it doesn't take much for them to just totally flip out. but my subbie wiring sort of twists the danger and fear into an aphrodisiac, otherwise i probably couldn't handle it.

 

[Homburg]

Jesus Christ shut the fuck up or I'll leave you tied up and pull the fire alarm.

Hahahaha!!



You rock, MzC. I'm glad you came back

 

[MzChrista]

Oh God. Billy. I think every Domme has Billy times 10 or 20. Substitute the fucking for tying teasing getting to know you games, and it's the same gig.

I played with them till I got really sick of it. It's fun for a while, but you can't really get anywhere unless you ARE also a shrink, and I'm not. But work it till you can't, don't be afraid to dance with the slightly annoying till the scales tip - they'll either get less annoying or way more annoying.

A lot of these guys think you are their shrink. At least if its a d/s deal you can try to train them.

 

[MzChrista]

Wow, is that how you pay for a vacation? Or a car? Or groceries? Or the spa? I gotta get in on this new economy. I'm very seldom satisfied with anything.

I think if men had the hourlong haircuts and got a manicure regularly or their butts waxed they'd be less uptight about paying 250 to get laid or for a personal service. I tossed out any client who had a hang up about the money, unless it was a great play hang up, because frankly if you're too uptight to spend money on YOURSELF and risk it being remotely different from what you want, you're not the right client. You don't hire a realtor or a shrink and then give them a script. You don't tell the hairdresser how to snip, just the look you want.

Well I dont do any of that stuff but its still a good point. hahaha

 

[MzChrista]

Oh really?

So, it wasn't me who couldn't figure him out. It's him.

I may see him again at least once, just to see if I can get him to be more fun and less annoying. So far, he's the kinkiest guy I've seen, so I'm inclined to see him again. But we'll have to do something with this attitude of his or it ain't gonna work for me.

It was him, dont worry.

You said he was socially backward. Its possible you could really work him into something good if you have the patience.

 

[DeservingBitch]

No doubt.

Heres the thing though. I think there is a distinct danger in Domming that is probably less likely in escorting (If Im wrong, school me) And that is the instant freak out. See, your precautions make sense if the client is able to see that he cant get away with hurting you. But every Domme I know whos done it long as had a guy just lose his mind on them. Like, right in the middle of a whipping on an assfuck something in his brain clicks and he gets overtaken by memories of being an abused child or whatever and he lashes out. Or sometimes, its just you come across a guy who thinks he wants pain but instead of getting a release it builds into a rage inside him.

He can be the nicest guy in the world one minute and a rampaging Viking berserker the next. Theres no way to predict.

I can totally see that happening in the pro-Domme world. And indeed, not something that is likely to happen when escorting.

The closest that it comes to in escorting is when the guys get into a guilt trip right after they cum. The condom is still on their dick, and they start interrogating you about STDs (yes, now's the good time to worry about that stupid), or give you the 'why don't you get a real job' talk. One minute they are a horny guy who is more than happy to pay you to fuck them, probably get a thrill out of paying you to fuck them, and as soon as the juice is out, they are overwhelmed by guilt and take it on you.

But that's usually not dangerous. Just really annoying.

Except you arent just buying a service you are also paying for her time.

Actually, given the laws, the only service you are paying me for is 'companionship'. You are paying for my time, period. What you get during this time is up to me to decide. Giving me attitude or treating me like a non-human being is the surest way to NOT get what you want out of this time.

 

[MzChrista]

If you are ever interested in reading a scholar analysis on domestic/sex work, I recommend the following: Anna Agathangelou (2004) The Global Political Economy of Sex (New York: Palgrave Macmillan). She argues and illustrates something very close to what you just said there: that domestic and sex work serve to reproduce the 'home' and the idea of 'home' for the white middle-class.
Anne McClintock, in Imperial Leather makes a really interesting argument about Freud's theories and his relationship with his nanny. Basically arguing that Freud's relationship with his nanny heavily inflect his theories at the same time as he erases her and his relationship with her, transposing his desires/frustrations toward his nanny (who is both the disciplinarian and the caring figure of his childhood) and splitting them between his 'pure' mother and his father. The nanny is the specter in Freud's theory, an abject without whom Freud's theories wouldn't have been made possible, but who cannot be spoken of.

Back to what you say about sex and detaching it from emotions. I don't think you can completely detach sex from emotions. I don't think you can ever detach yourself from emotions period.

But there's a range of emotions that can come into play when fucking for money, and it's all about what you do with those and how you deal with it. I've mentioned power a few times already. Power is an emotion that is very much present for me when I'm doing this job. But as evident by what OSG and I are saying, power is felt quite differently in our resepctive experience, and we deal with it or act on it differently.

In my experience so far, the closest I get to being completely detached from the person I'm with is when they say something stupid or annoying or which tickles me the wrong way. When this happens, no matter what is going on at the moment, I go to this place where I look at the person from a very detached, 'rational', and analytical space. Basically, the academic in me takes over, and I start theorizing in my head what is going on and where this comment came from. I think this is one of my coping-mechanism: theorizing is by definition a very cold, detached, and abstract way of relating to reality. So by going into theorizing mode, I detach myself from what annoyed or offended me. But of course, the very reason why I go into this mode is BECAUSE emotions were present -- too present.

On a related note, I think that being queer and not fucking men in my personal life makes it very easy for me to compartmentalize the job part from the sex for fun part.

Now, on an unrelated note: thanks guys for indulging me and getting involved in this thread. It's a lot of fun, but also gives me a lot to think about.

Its a great thread. You the bomb.

 

[MzChrista]

*Sigh* If I were thin and lived somewhere other than Alabama, I'd love to have DB's job.

You thought about Domming?

For a lot of guys looking for a Domme, the bigger the better. especially the guys into ageplay and such.

 

[DeservingBitch]

Thats exactly the kind of thing I was talking about earlier.


"Dominate me Mistress. No, not like that. I want to be your slave. Stop that I dont like it. Make me beg. No thats not what I want to beg for."

Jesus Christ shut the fuck up or I'll leave you tied up and pull the fire alarm.

Hahaha. My own thoughts were more along the lines of: Jesus Christ shut the fuck up or I'm going to bite that dick of yours.

I'm always amazed that guys aren't more worried about the stuff they tell you when their dick is between your teeths.

 

[MzChrista]

MzChrista, i think that may be true from both the Domme and sub escorting sides. as i was saying earlier, i'm always wary of a client snapping on me. like there's one guy (actually a lifestyle Dom) who likes to choke/strangle me as he's cumming, and he'll have his hand squeezing my neck so tightly that my eyes roll back and my head feels like it's about to explode. in those moments i'm thinking, what's to stop him from going all the way? what's to say that he won't lose all control himself (as he is in what i consider to a man's most aggressive state...the drive to orgasm) and accidentally send me to the morgue?

but at least with him i pretty much know what to expect from start to finish. what can be even scarier are the sweet, nice ultra-vanilla guys who start off treating you like they're courting the girl of their dreams and then all of a sudden during the course of things flip into Hannibal or something. for some of these guys it doesn't take much for them to just totally flip out. but my subbie wiring sort of twists the danger and fear into an aphrodisiac, otherwise i probably couldn't handle it.

Oh yeah. But I figure most people would realize that danger when the guy is the top, but dont think about how dangerous a flipped out bottom can be.

Heres a question to you if you dont mind. As a Domme I am always hyper aware of whats going on so my danger radar is spinning full speed. But how do you stay aware of danger if you slip into subspace?

 

[MzChrista]

Hahahaha!!



You rock, MzC. I'm glad you came back

Thanks man, Im glad too.