The Cheap Whore Fantasy

[SinfulSailor]

In the fantasy we had the price was so low because i needed the "practice".

That's legitimate. I can relate to that.

 

[SinfulSailor]

That's not something I fantasy about. I loved when he shares me with his friends, but I want to be free to his friends and very expensive to others.

That makes sense to me. From all historical and evidentiary accounts I've read both slaves and prostitutes were proud of and took pleasure in commanding a high price.

 

[SinfulSailor]

It's the humiliation. "blowjobs 5 cents" hung around his neck. There's absurdity to it. It also drives home the point that no one is going to pay real money for an out of shape businessman to suck him.

I can certainly understand this too. That's real.

I've often thought that making THEM pay to suck cock is another level. That would really be hideously embarrassing for a bio girl, too "you will have to give him 20 bucks to fuck your skanky cunt."

But here, if it's not true..... then somehow it breaks down the fantasy/experience for me.

I guess I just need an overall essence of realism in my fantasies and explorations.

To me, if the girl is hot it would be far hotter to get a large sum. It would be real, don't you see?

And if everyone knows it's fake (not real) (because of the unrealisticly low price) then how can the humiliation feel real? So if it's humiliation we're after, how could real whoredom (getting a market price) be less humiliation than fake whoredom that everyone knows and acknowledges is fake?

I guess that question is the real reason I started the thread.

And hey, maybe it's just me and my own kinky need for real experiences. I dunno.

 

[ecstaticsub]

That makes sense to me. From all historical and evidentiary accounts I've read both slaves and prostitutes were proud of and took pleasure in commanding a high price.

My PYL is always referring to me as a "valued treasure" to sell my services cheaply would reflect badly on him. (or so he has said).

I am really into humiliation play. I love when he uses me and allows his friends to use me like a whore off the street. I never before knew where the line was where humiliation and degradation would bother me, never reached it before.

But this conversation has convinced me that being sold very cheaply would cross that line. I'm not saying I would refuse to do it, but if he thought my ablities were worth so little it would hurt me greatly.

 

[SinfulSailor]

My PYL is always referring to me as a "valued treasure" to sell my services cheaply would reflect badly on him. (or so he has said).

I am really into humiliation play. I love when he uses me and allows his friends to use me like a whore off the street. I never before knew where the line was where humiliation and degradation would bother me, never reached it before.

But this conversation has convinced me that being sold very cheaply would cross that line. I'm not saying I would refuse to do it, but if he thought my ablities were worth so little it would hurt me greatly.

See, I really like this.

Although I certainly would not allow a refusal.

Still, I do relate to where you're coming from.

 

[Netzach]

I can certainly understand this too. That's real.




But here, if it's not true..... then somehow it breaks down the fantasy/experience for me.

I guess I just need an overall essence of realism in my fantasies and explorations.

To me, if the girl is hot it would be far hotter to get a large sum. It would be real, don't you see?

And if everyone knows it's fake (not real) (because of the unrealisticly low price) then how can the humiliation feel real? So if it's humiliation we're after, how could real whoredom (getting a market price) be less humiliation than fake whoredom that everyone knows and acknowledges is fake?

I guess that question is the real reason I started the thread.

And hey, maybe it's just me and my own kinky need for real experiences. I dunno.

It's not the "realism" nor anything to do with the person being asked. They're a prop. I'm much less jacked up on realism than symbols, so I'm the wrong person to ask. Realism without symbolic resonance to me is just sticking things in holes, it can be totally "fake" and still make a point. Often much more successfully.

It's the dynamic of "here's a nickel. Go get an ice cream" between the M and the s.

 

[catalina_francisco]

But this conversation has convinced me that being sold very cheaply would cross that line. I'm not saying I would refuse to do it, but if he thought my ablities were worth so little it would hurt me greatly.

I don't think for many it is to do with actual worth as much as putting someone in a place they are not expecting to be placed, emphasising a point, demonstrating the reality of the complete ownership required which allows a PYL to sell a pyl cheaply and carry it through to actuality. IOW, you could be the world's most beautiful woman, you could be worth millions on paper, you could be extremely skilled in sexual ways, but when it comes down to it, if he says you will offer your services for 5 cents, you will obey out of the knowledge you are owned and if it is as he wishes, it is as you will do without needing to measure it in monetary or any other value rated terms.

Catalina

 

[ataxia.girl]

I don't think for many it is to do with actual worth as much as putting someone in a place they are not expecting to be placed, emphasising a point, demonstrating the reality of the complete ownership required which allows a PYL to sell a pyl cheaply and carry it through to actuality. IOW, you could be the world's most beautiful woman, you could be worth millions on paper, you could be extremely skilled in sexual ways, but when it comes down to it, if he says you will offer your services for 5 cents, you will obey out of the knowledge you are owned and if it is as he wishes, it is as you will do without needing to measure it in monetary or any other value rated terms.

Catalina

yes.. that.

In my case i also play with not having to know or worry about the "how much" and what any of it means. i take the knowledgeable, capable woman out of the equasion and just do what Daddy tells me and he takes care of everything. If he asks me to do something absurd i do not worry about it, does not matter, i just do.

 

[YourCaptor]

yes.. that.

In my case i also play with not having to know or worry about the "how much" and what any of it means. i take the knowledgeable, capable woman out of the equasion and just do what Daddy tells me and he takes care of everything. If he asks me to do something absurd i do not worry about it, does not matter, i just do.

You know you keep giving me this image of a kissing booth, or lemonade style stand selling blowjobs for a quarter. All the neighborhood pervs lining up.

 

[ataxia.girl]

But this conversation has convinced me that being sold very cheaply would cross that line. I'm not saying I would refuse to do it, but if he thought my ablities were worth so little it would hurt me greatly.

i don't know. i'm sure there would still be all the normal neogiating about what's allowed and what's not, establishing who is in control, keeping you safe. Those things tend to counter-act the pretend prostitution for a low price so that you can just have fun with it.

 

[ataxia.girl]

You know you keep giving me this image of a kissing booth, or lemonade style stand selling blowjobs for a quarter. All the neighborhood pervs lining up.

Well... that would definitely give me lots of practice and i could keep a little notebook to log my progress and record their dimensions. i would also need a little tin lunch pail with a slot cut in it for them to stick the money in. Probably there would have to be a sign that told them not to give the money to me directly but i think some of them would sneak me some, at least maybe a candy.

 

[rosco rathbone]

The quarter thing doesn't do much for me. I'd rather it be strangers and for lots of money; except for needy cases, aka black philanthropy.

 

[Netzach]

The quarter thing doesn't do much for me. I'd rather it be strangers and for lots of money; except for needy cases, aka black philanthropy.

OK, that's also hot.

I have something you want. I get it when I want it, how I want it, for free every night, you, you can pull on your pud and dream or cough up ridiculously.

Double trouble humiliation.

 

[YourCaptor]

Well... that would definitely give me lots of practice and i could keep a little notebook to log my progress and record their dimensions. i would also need a little tin lunch pail with a slot cut in it for them to stick the money in. Probably there would have to be a sign that told them not to give the money to me directly but i think some of them would sneak me some, at least maybe a candy.

And now I want to be the guy at the end of the day who smashes your stand and takes all your quarters, as well as some other goods.

 

[ataxia.girl]

OK, that's also hot.

I have something you want. I get it when I want it, how I want it, for free every night, you, you can pull on your pud and dream or cough up ridiculously.

Double trouble humiliation.

In this case it is important to have worked out a very elaborate pay scale so certain more taboo acts are much much more expensive. Like break the barriers where the things she only does for you become available to all for the right price.

 

[rosco rathbone]

OK, that's also hot.

I have something you want. I get it when I want it, how I want it, for free every night, you, you can pull on your pud and dream or cough up ridiculously.

Double trouble humiliation.

hehe you know me a little too well Netz.

I mean, I understand the theory behind the quarter and all, but as far as I'm concerned, you get the same basic effect just saying "you will fuck who I tell you to fuck".

And it's much more of an ego boost to me for it to be worth a lot.

 

[Netzach]

hehe you know me a little too well Netz.

I mean, I understand the theory behind the quarter and all, but as far as I'm concerned, you get the same basic effect just saying "you will fuck who I tell you to fuck".

And it's much more of an ego boost to me for it to be worth a lot.

You know what tickled me to no end last night? M told me he got off on that the whole time I was actively pro. That here was this thrill ride that other people had to pay 250 an hour for and he got the better version of it just because he's a stud.

That was about as switchy as I've ever felt with him.

 

[ataxia.girl]

hehe you know me a little too well Netz.

I mean, I understand the theory behind the quarter and all, but as far as I'm concerned, you get the same basic effect just saying "you will fuck who I tell you to fuck".

And it's much more of an ego boost to me for it to be worth a lot.

i've never wanted to PM someone for cyber this much. i think its the red print.

 

[catalina_francisco]

LOL, personally I think it is much more interesting to charge various prices depending on the PLY's mood, or nothing even. Maybe charge 5 cents at the beginning, $200 for the next one, $5 for the next, $80 for the next, freebie for the next...sort of like pulling the rug from underneath in terms of being able to predict what will be charged as well as removing any reasonable way of measuring what services attract what fee. Could even rent a pyl to another for a weekend for $5 or $500, all is up to the PYL and their desire in the moment.

Catalina

 

[naughtycakes]

i've never wanted to PM someone for cyber this much. i think its the red print.

Haha, I already did.

 

[Netzach]

I think there are some fundamental differences between shaming fat 50 year old salesmen with whoring and women of whatever type. Maybe the popularity of the "dollar blowjob" among men (and oh it is overwhelmingly popular) has a lot to do with neuroses about paying for it in a way that isn't there with women, although there is the notion that if you love sex you must be charging/could charge/etc.

 

[ataxia.girl]

Haha, I already did.

i also really like how its all lowercase. It makes me giggle everytime i read it.

 

[ecstaticsub]

hehe you know me a little too well Netz.

I mean, I understand the theory behind the quarter and all, but as far as I'm concerned, you get the same basic effect just saying "you will fuck who I tell you to fuck".

And it's much more of an ego boost to me for it to be worth a lot.

This is exactly it. I fuck who he tells me to fuck whenever he wants. The money aspect does nothing for me. It's not my business anyway, it wouldn't be my money.

I don't think for many it is to do with actual worth as much as putting someone in a place they are not expecting to be placed, emphasising a point, demonstrating the reality of the complete ownership required which allows a PYL to sell a pyl cheaply and carry it through to actuality. IOW, you could be the world's most beautiful woman, you could be worth millions on paper, you could be extremely skilled in sexual ways, but when it comes down to it, if he says you will offer your services for 5 cents, you will obey out of the knowledge you are owned and if it is as he wishes, it is as you will do without needing to measure it in monetary or any other value rated terms.

Catalina

It does have something to do with actual worth for my PYL and I. He doesn't need to make the point that I am owned by offering me cheaply. How highly he values me as a submissive, a lover and a person is very important in our relationship. If he was to offer me to someone for a quarter I couldn't help but consider it as asign that he no longer values me. Just because I know him so well, and the way he thinks.

i don't know. i'm sure there would still be all the normal neogiating about what's allowed and what's not, establishing who is in control, keeping you safe. Those things tend to counter-act the pretend prostitution for a low price so that you can just have fun with it.

I would have more fun just doing it for free knowing that I was doing as I was told. (plus really I LOVE sex with strangers, and he knows it ) Also and negotiating that he would have with the men I wouldn't know about, so it wouldn't matter.

 

[Netzach]

This is exactly it. I fuck who he tells me to fuck whenever he wants. The money aspect does nothing for me. It's not my business anyway, it wouldn't be my money.





It does have something to do with actual worth for my PYL and I. He doesn't need to make the point that I am owned by offering me cheaply. How highly he values me as a submissive, a lover and a person is very important in our relationship. If he was to offer me to someone for a quarter I couldn't help but consider it as asign that he no longer values me. Just because I know him so well, and the way he thinks.



I would have more fun just doing it for free knowing that I was doing as I was told. (plus really I LOVE sex with strangers, and he knows it ) Also and negotiating that he would have with the men I wouldn't know about, so it wouldn't matter.

I'm a lot like this, other than this hasn't been made manifest in my rel. I think we're still undecided whether keeping me completely to himself and deliciously to himself as submissive delight is better, or dangling me as the Prize. Either decision is A-OK by me, but I really don't like the idea of him fucking with the leashed-tigress paradigm too too much.

 

[unfoundiamond]

I stumbled upon this, read the OP and commented without reading, as usual,

This from another thread (I didn't want to hijack it) (And snipped):

"Yes but will he take me to a party and charge his buddies a quarter each for me to blow them?"

I've noticed this is a recurring fantasy. Does a ridiculously low price (virtually free but still being sold for money) make it a more powerful fantasy?

The cheap whore fantasy is a man thing, imo, or for women who seek and/or need a excuse to say the want to have promiscuous or group sex...

Men always talk about fantasizing about having a prostitute, if shes cheap thats prolly a plus, because shes do more for less, and also be more desprate for any money or attention... she has to be a dirty whore because "shed do all the things most women wont"

or the variation SS spoke of about the woman wishing to be sold for quarters...

this to me stems from the societal pressure for women not to be promiscuous like men, or expiriment...

you know men dont want us all switching partners and finding out what weve been missing, but thats another topic.

I dont see the lure of either fantasy. I have been sold without my consent (as most of you know about the gangrape) i wasnt sold for cheap but let me assure you it doesnt hurt less when youre sold for 500$

I also dont need a man to order me to do something to feel i am allowed to do it....

oh and for those of you thinking, what if she just wants to perform and be praised for her skills... id say if thats what its all about why the need for a price?