The Hegemony Of Kink

[Marquis]

I liked it better when Vanilla folk had more questions. These days they read a definition somewhere and nod their heads like they know exactly what you're talking about. Slowly they start scowling to show discomfort with the topic and it's actually harder to convert them than ever.

 

[00Syd]

I agree with WD.

I think, no, I KNOW that it's very easy to be lulled into a kind of echo chamber of sexual progress.

But honestly, significant portions of the West are people still freaked out by assplay, premarital sex, bisexuality, and strippers, just about anything to do with sex.

At the same time as being oversexed.

Until what we do and what we say we do gets a little more in step, I don't think there's anything approaching calm about this kind of stuff.

I agree with this,

Ok.

Maybe I'm like a merry gay man in 1975 going "in the future, EVERYONE will be gay!".

this,

No jet-packs=not the future.

and especially this.

 

[JMohegan]

I believe that power and pain have been part of human sexuality for as long as people have been fucking. However, I don't think there's any question that access to Internet information has increased the incidence of experimentation.

Has there been a shift in social mores - i.e., that which is considered acceptable to talk about, write about, express interest in, and admit to doing? Yes, in the sense that Amazon feels comfortable selling Screw the Roses. No, when it comes to the job prospects of openly kinky teachers, politicians, and so on.

 

[Cattypuss]

It's the internet. That's what's done it.

 

[JMohegan]

LOL

Well, I think to a certain extent now's the future.

I just think kinky is a great deal more common than reported. I've certainly noticed during my time here that it's the shame and the breaking of taboos that makes it hot for some.

If there was no shame and no taboos, that'd be the saddest damned day in sex history for lots of people who would have to make up rules to break just so they could get off.

I agree - it's a hell of a lot more common than people who get off on the 'I'm so naughty' factor would like to admit.

I have a friend who swears if kink goes any more mainstream, he'll have to take up smoking and figure out how to fuck while riding a bike with no helmet and puffing. He's only partially joking.

 

[Recidiva]

I agree - it's a hell of a lot more common than people who get off on the 'I'm so naughty' factor would like to admit.

I have a friend who swears if kink goes any more mainstream, he'll have to take up smoking and figure out how to fuck while riding a bike with no helmet and puffing. He's only partially joking.

I'm right there with you. I don't see how you can read history and come to any conclusion that vanilla is normal in any way.

 

[intothewoods]

I don't think there's such a thing as an absolute normal. But my definition of "abnormal" really has to do more with whether or not something is nonconsensual.

You consenting to not have consent...I think that qualifies as consent. If you're happy and you are fulfilled and this is what you want, I think that's better than normal. That's more than lots of people can get in a life.

I don't think there is really a definition of normal either, but I do find the level of out as a freak/perv/whatever versus passing as vanilla to be kinda interesting.

If you look really different (and obviously it's a lot easier to get classified as a freak in some places over others) and have your face plasted all over the internet with pictures of all of the kinky stuff you do, then you're out as a freak.

It's just interesting to me what influences peoples' choices to be public about kink.

As far as relationships go, I think what matters is whether the people in it are content and thriving. Well, that's what matters to me. Obviously if someone chooses to repeatedly get involved in self-destructive crazy relationships, that's there business.

I personally don't want kinky to be more normal. There will always be people who want to get more extreme than what society decides is normal. If kinky becomes normal, how extreme will people go to try to be not normal?

I want kink to stay in the privacy of people's home or clubs. We need to make sure consensual impact play is legal all over (which it is not) and work on marriage laws, etc but other than that I don't want it to become normal and expected of every relationship. It needs to still be ok to be vanilla.

Vampires.

 

[Sayyid]

Isn't kink, by definition, not mainstream? Certain elements of kink fashion have found their way into the public consciousness but I don't know if the same holds true for the accompanying sexual acts.