The Key to understanding socialism

[Politruk]

Never said it did.

That's what the thread is about. A connection between socialism and pot.

 

[Politruk]

Not if you're driving a 2005 Honda civic no.

I've got a RAM3500, Hellcat redeye and a Peterbilt 379..... they cost more.

No state is ever going to collect enough that way to pay for the roads.

 

[UltraChad]

That's what the thread is about. A connection between socialism and pot.

But that's not what our conversation was about. You needed an out to run away, I understand

 

[UltraChad]

No state is ever going to collect enough that way to pay for the roads.

Bullshit.

You just want to collectivize labor and property.

There is no reason that can't pay for it.

 

[ll74]

No, my statement is correct because there is no argument or rational behind the idea that socialism is political.

Lol

No need for a government or political structure of any sort is needed for capitalism.

Why would it be political??

An economic system are policies to guide fiscal outcomes.

How???

* incoming "i don't have to explain shit, things are whatever I say they are because I said they are " variant

I enjoy how you believe you've done something different than this

Aah right.....you "teach a class"

Lol

Facts are facts.

Yep

 

[Lance_Castro]

I just want to thank the American poasters to this thread for their “collective” insight to understanding Socialism.

Lol

 

[Politruk]

But that's not what our conversation was about.

Yes, it was.

The most full-on socialist countries in the world are China, NK, Vietnam and Cuba. I don't think pot is popular in any of them. Well, maybe Vietnam.

And Laos. Nobody ever talks about Laos.

 

[UltraChad]

An economic system are policies to guide fiscal outcomes.

Tell me you have no fucking clue what capitalism is without saying you have no fucking clue what capitalism is.

I enjoy how you believe you've done something different than this

I did, it's called making an argument. Something you seem largely incapable of.

Aah right.....you "teach a class"

Lol

Yep

As demonstrated here.

 

[dawnonyou]

Never said it did.

But if you smoke enough pot I wonder if it would seem unfair that one guy has a 2005 Civic and the other guy has 3 expensive vehicles. (all of which cause global warming if you smoke enough dope.) It seems that the government should take those vehicles and sell them and give everyone an electric scooter. Then we would all be equal and we could smoke some pot and look at the clouds together and sip soy milk. Mmmmm

 

[HumpDayHoratio]

I’ll bite. Tell us your thoughts on mandatory military service and how it contributes to this conversation.

The point is to get your thoughts. There’s a reason those countries you mentioned can afford to do all those grandiose things for the people. I just want you to connect the dots. The mandatory service is the lynchpin in your path to understanding. A big percentage of those countries have moved away from MMS, BTW, but that’s only been a recent phenomenon. That’s a topic for another day though.

 

[glamorilla]

Nothing is stopping me. I already live where I want to live

Being busybodys personal troll is safer than living in those racist countries.

 

[Politruk]

But if you smoke enough pot I wonder if it would seem unfair that one guy has a 2005 Civic and the other guy has 3 expensive vehicles. (all of which cause global warming if you smoke enough dope.)

They cause it whether you smoke or not.

 

[Rebel5soul]

Socialism is a mental illness no matter how derived.

 

[UltraChad]

Socialism is a mental illness no matter how derived.

This is correct.

 

[BAstoicguy]

Socialism is a mental illness no matter how derived.

Affliction of Altruism

Its most stalwart are usually conceived in the cauldron of harsh circumstance with the luxury of being able to do something about it other than subsist or die. I'm okay, you're not okay, and I cannot do anything about it myself, but I can become part of a government that will alleviate your plight; one not greedy, one that cares, one with a charter of positive liberties.

There are some very good people in Socialism.

 

[BAstoicguy]

This is correct.

Consider yourself corrected.

Remember, the ruthless and ambitious are the mentally ill. The fish rots form the head: the idea. It is an idea most seductive, you can be part of a greater good by giving into the government and government is good, just as immigration is a greater good which alleviates suffering and oppression. That it might create some ill with the host is not a consideration, judge no harm, for the intent is pure, lest good people not come to the fore.

 

[Rebel5soul]

Affliction of Altruism

Its most stalwart are usually conceived in the cauldron of harsh circumstance with the luxury of being able to do something about it other than subsist or die. I'm okay, you're not okay, and I cannot do anything about it myself, but I can become part of a government that will alleviate your plight; one not greedy, one that cares, one with a charter of positive liberties.

There are some very good people in Socialism.

Amazing how the true believers in Socialism demand someone else pay for it. *chuckle*

 

[BAstoicguy]

There are enough potential fundraisers out there to start up a charity pool, the equivalent of Wall Street: Secular Street: Where ROI is a warm feeling and a self-congratulatory pat on the back and public virtue signal, I Voted becomes, I Gave.

 

[ll74]

Amazing how the true believers in Socialism demand someone else pay for it. *chuckle*

I've been trying to stop paying for roads. Who needs em?

 

[Lance_Castro]

I've been trying to stop paying for roads. Who needs em?

You’re not going anywhere, so that makes sense.

Lol

 

[Rebel5soul]

You’re not going anywhere, so that makes sense.

Lol

*chuckle*

 

[ll74]

You’re not going anywhere, so that makes sense.

Lol

Well, I'm sure the ankle monitor keeps you close as well.

 

[Bn2f]

One of you creates a joke that he laughs to himself about that is not well crafted and a shit bomb and then, inevitably, the whole group chimes in with the ubiquitous, watlike, group LOL to support the idiot and it's all then topped off by you all then trying your best to add context and support to the the shit of a joke with your own takes on what is supposed to be comedy in the hopes that someone, anyone, else out there will buy into the joke and all of this is done under the context that "SOCIALISM BAD" - WE HATE IT.

 

[ishtat]

The US has been a Social Democracy since 1932, subsidising farmers and corporate agriculture, supplementing incomes and providing food essentials and unemployment/poverty safety nets. The level of financial/social support provided by the government of the USA to its people is several levels of magnitude greater than that provided by the Chinese government. The economy of China has been essentially capitalist since Deng was in charge. Their government is a communist dictatorship by an elite and exclusive CCP. The government of the USA is democratic in its institutional structure, but dominated by money interests through both of the party structures. All governments of all colours constantly intervene and interfere in their capitalist economies, both the USA and China throw vast sums of taxpayers money at their manufacturing industries.

Socialism is not a particular state but a continuum adopted to a greater or lesser extent in both Western Democracies and Eastern dictatorships. The biggest difference to my mind is that Democratic countries follow the Rule of Law whereas Dictatorships of all stripes ignore it when it suits them..

 

[UltraChad]

Consider yourself corrected.

How??

Remember, the ruthless and ambitious are the mentally ill. The fish rots form the head: the idea. It is an idea most seductive, you can be part of a greater good by giving into the government and government is good, just as immigration is a greater good which alleviates suffering and oppression. That it might create some ill with the host is not a consideration, judge no harm, for the intent is pure, lest good people not come to the fore.

Sure................