The Key to understanding socialism

[Rightguide]

Interesting concept.

The world now has nearly three thousand billionaires and growing, much of this is the result of debt spending to encourage economic growth and stability. Where is that $30 trillion that was brought into existence by borrowing and increasing the national debt?

Any thoughts?

Yes, take a math course. 3000 billion is only 3 trillion.

 

[Bn2f]

And the left is trained to side step logical reality and shout or name call. In a fair adult debate they know they would fall apart due to the absolute lack of logic in their desires.

Again, you’re doing great convincing your own kind with your logic based argument.

 

[Rotadom]

This is the same type of argument as "we are a Republic, not a democracy"

Socialism exists and is working in multiple countries.

Now say it louder for the people in the back arguing against socialism while collecting government assistant and Obamacare.

 

[Rebel5soul]

Your myopic question deserves an AI response:

AI: Many first-world countries adopt socialist-inspired policies to improve the well-being of their citizens, typically by combining elements of free-market capitalism with robust social safety nets. These policies aim to address income inequality, ensure access to essential services, and promote social welfare. Below are some examples:


1. Nordic Countries (Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Iceland)

• Universal Healthcare: These nations provide free or low-cost healthcare to all citizens.

• Education: Public education, including university, is often free or heavily subsidized.

• Parental Leave: Generous maternity, paternity, and parental leave policies.

• Social Welfare Programs: Comprehensive unemployment benefits, pensions, and housing assistance.

• High Taxation: To fund these programs, they have progressive tax systems, with high-income earners paying significantly more.



2. Germany

• Universal Healthcare: Everyone is required to have health insurance, either through public or private options.

• Free Higher Education: Most universities are tuition-free for both citizens and international students.

• Strong Labor Protections: Workers benefit from robust unions, job security laws, and mandatory paid vacation.

• Generous Parental Leave: Parents can share up to 14 months of paid leave.


3. Canada

• Healthcare: Universal healthcare is provided through a publicly funded system.

• Social Programs: Canada offers generous unemployment benefits, housing assistance, and a Child Benefit program to support families.

• Education Support: Public education is free, and there is significant federal and provincial support for post-secondary students.


4. New Zealand

• Healthcare: Subsidized healthcare is available to all citizens and permanent residents.

• Social Security: Comprehensive welfare benefits, including unemployment, disability support, and pensions.

• Housing Programs: The government invests in affordable housing to address homelessness and housing shortages.


5. France

• Healthcare: Universal healthcare system largely funded through taxes.

• Education: Free public education, with higher education costs among the lowest in Europe.

• Labor Rights: Strong labor laws ensure protections such as a 35-hour workweek, paid vacation, and unemployment benefits.

• Family Benefits: Generous child allowances and parental leave policies.



6. Australia

• Medicare: Provides free or subsidized healthcare services to citizens.

• Social Welfare: Includes unemployment benefits, aged pensions, and family tax benefits.

• Education: Public schools are free, and higher education is subsidized through government loans.


7. The Netherlands

• Healthcare: Universal healthcare with mandatory insurance, heavily subsidized by the government.

• Social Housing: Extensive social housing programs ensure affordable living for low-income families.

• Parental Leave: Generous parental leave policies, including paid maternity and paternity leave.

• Education: Free public education and affordable higher education.



Key Features Across These Countries

1. Universal Healthcare ensures access to medical care regardless of income.

2. Education Accessibility reduces economic barriers to schooling.

3. Social Welfare Programs provide a safety net for unemployment, housing, and disability.

4. Progressive Taxation funds these services by redistributing wealth.

5. Worker Protections include strong labor laws, living wages, and union support.


These policies are not strictly “socialist” in the sense of replacing capitalism but rather reflect social democratic principles. They illustrate how combining a market-based economy with social programs can improve quality of life and reduce inequality.

Large social safety net projects do not socialist make.

Sweden and Socialism.

 

[dawnonyou]

Coffee for example......bunch of fuckin' junkies.ca

Caffeine is a drug. I did not say that all drugs are bad. But drugs that alter the mind do have the potential to twist a person's connection to reality. Even caffeine can do that. Some drugs, like pot, do it to a very great degree. The left often promotes such addictions because it renders the masses vulnerable to mind control.

 

[dawnonyou]

Those are some good talking points to bolster your point. They look great on paper, but now tell us. How do those countries afford that? Do you think it will work in the US?

One more thing needs to be added. I noticed you left it out. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt on why you did…


6. MANDATORY military service. Every country you listed had it after WWII. Some have done away with it. Again, ask yourself why?

And of course all of the free stuff is what causes inflation and results in the eventual collapse. The free stuff is the magnet that draws in the lazy. Mind altering drugs make the idea of someone else providing free stuff sounds bubble wonderful.

 

[UltraChad]

You not understanding that it is both isn't my issue.

I understand you think just saying so makes it so.

It is system where government owns the means of production.

And other than the guns to force it, what about that is political not economic??

To you, yes. You've mentioned that.
It's a political and economic system

No, it's just an economic one.

You can have issues with whatever you want. Maybe take a class for some help

I teach the class and the issue isn't mine.

 

[AlexBailey]

No. Are you able to answer the question??

Caesar’s infrastructure comes at a cost to those who enjoy the benefits, including you.

 

[AlexBailey]

Those are some good talking points to bolster your point. They look great on paper, but now tell us. How do those countries afford that? Do you think it will work in the US?

One more thing needs to be added. I noticed you left it out. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt on why you did…


6. MANDATORY military service. Every country you listed had it after WWII. Some have done away with it. Again, ask yourself why?

I’ll bite. Tell us your thoughts on mandatory military service and how it contributes to this conversation.

 

[ll74]

I understand you think just saying so makes it so.

Lol....you seem to believe you saying something contrarian makes your statement correct.

I bet you think capitalism isn't political either.

And other than the guns to force it, what about that is political not economic??

Lol

No, it's just an economic one.

Incorect

I teach the class and the issue isn't mine.

Of course you do

 

[Politruk]

I have often wondered why anyone would be drawn to an economic system that could never work in real life. I have known people that seem smart in some ways but so dumb when it comes to how the economy works. I have wondered, "How can anyone think this is a good idea?" But recently I noticed that most of the people that are sucked into the idea are into smoking pot or other drugs. I think there is something about pot that alters the human brain enough to make socialism seem like a good idea. What do you think?

The socialist movement existed long before pot was popular. Marx and Engels probably never even heard of the stuff.

 

[AlexBailey]

Yes, take a math course. 3000 billion is only 3 trillion.

Oh yeah, because all 3000 of those billionaires only have ONE billion dollars?


Thats your math.

 

[Rightguide]

Oh yeah, because all 3000 of those billionaires only have ONE billion dollars?


Thats your math.

Where's your proof? The combined wealth of the world's 2600 billionaires according to Forbes and Bloomberg is between 10-15 billion.

 

[John_von_Neumann]

Where's your proof? The combined wealth of the world's 2600 billionaires according to Forbes and Bloomberg is between 10-15 billion.

C'mon, you can do better. Divide 15 billion by 2600 billionaires, and what do you get.

I think you misread 10-15 trillion as 10-15 billion.

 

[Lance_Castro]

 

[Lazaran]

Interesting concept.

The world now has nearly three thousand billionaires and growing, much of this is the result of debt spending to encourage economic growth and stability. Where is that $30 trillion that was brought into existence by borrowing and increasing the national debt?

Any thoughts?

Yes, take a math course. 3000 billion is only 3 trillion.

Oh yeah, because all 3000 of those billionaires only have ONE billion dollars?


Thats your math.

Where's your proof? The combined wealth of the world's 2600 billionaires according to Forbes and Bloomberg is between 10-15 billion.

C'mon, you can do better. Divide 15 billion by 2600 billionaires, and what do you get.

I think you misread 10-15 trillion as 10-15 billion.

Rightard

 

[Politruk]

But drugs that alter the mind do have the potential to twist a person's connection to reality. Even caffeine can do that. Some drugs, like pot, do it to a very great degree.

You've never had a single toke, have you?

The left often promotes such addictions because it renders the masses vulnerable to mind control.

Now you're talking like some dumbass McCarthyite asshole from the 1950s Red Scare.

 

[Politruk]

To my personal knowledge, pot is very popular among Libertarians. They ain't socialists.

 

[Politruk]

I know there are lots of dumb conservatives and lots of drugs and dope heads in every aspect of society. But I get the impression that people that get brain damage from drugs end up liking the idea of the government owning them.

Nobody ever got brain damage from pot.

 

[Politruk]

Socialism is an economic mechanism that brings the best down to the level of the lesser.

Never go full Rand.

 

[Politruk]

This is the same type of argument as "we are a Republic, not a democracy"

Socialism exists and is working in multiple countries.

No, social democracy works. It's not socialism unless the state owns the means of production.

 

[Politruk]

Pot is a drug period.

Aspirin is a drug period. Penicillin is a drug period.

 

[Politruk]

MMM and there is the rub, you still want to take other peoples shit.....that's not in line with the concept of private property, a key foundational value of these United States of America.

No nation has such thing as a foundational value.

 

[Politruk]

The most full-on socialist countries in the world are China, NK, Vietnam and Cuba. I don't think pot is popular in any of them. Well, maybe Vietnam.

And Laos. Nobody ever talks about Laos.

 

[HisArpy]

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I KNEW IT!!!

It had to happen. It was inevitable that some bastard was going to come along and give us all a math quiz.

Fucker.