The politics of pussy eating...

Sugaredwalls, would you recommend this book to someone who is already a willing convert?

I'm sure there's more for me to learn, I'm not going to pretend I'm some sort of pussy eating god! (although I am obviously - hahaha)
 
Might be worth getting a copy and sort of leaving it around for your dh! :)

She Comes First

I concur with the recommendation of this book. A couple of years ago, I read three books on the subject. For guys, this one was by far the best. It's written by a guy. He assumes that you know nothing to start and explains everything from there.

The other two books were written by women. One of the reasons straight guys love lesbians, is because we know what we don't know and assume that lesbians can teach us. Unfortunately, the two books that were written by women just kind of glossed over some really important info almost as if to say, " well, everyone already knows about that". Well, I'm sorry, but guys don't know everything that you and your girlfriends know. One of the books went as far as to have an illustration that labeled some of the anatomical parts, and then in the text used synomyms for some of the key parts so that the illustration didn't match up with the text.

I was in my late 40s when I read 'She Comes First'. The first time that I ate pussy after reading the book was the first time that I really felt like I had any idea what I was doing, rather than just slurping away down there. It was an empowering feeling. It was like, "first I do this, then I do this, then... Oh shit, what do I do next?" Then I'd go read the book again. Then the next time, I'd get to step 1, 2,3 and then go read the book again. Then I'd get to 1, 2, 3 and 4. Then I'd read the book again. By the time I finished, I knew the frenulum, the fourichete, the front commisure...

I also agree with what I read as the underlying theme of this thread, which is that there's no substitute for enthusiasm. Along that line, the author advocates replacing the term 'foreplay' with 'coreplay' to emphasise that it can be the main event.
 
I concur with the recommendation of this book. A couple of years ago, I read three books on the subject. For guys, this one was by far the best. It's written by a guy. He assumes that you know nothing to start and explains everything from there.

The other two books were written by women. One of the reasons straight guys love lesbians, is because we know what we don't know and assume that lesbians can teach us. Unfortunately, the two books that were written by women just kind of glossed over some really important info almost as if to say, " well, everyone already knows about that". Well, I'm sorry, but guys don't know everything that you and your girlfriends know. One of the books went as far as to have an illustration that labeled some of the anatomical parts, and then in the text used synomyms for some of the key parts so that the illustration didn't match up with the text.

I was in my late 40s when I read 'She Comes First'. The first time that I ate pussy after reading the book was the first time that I really felt like I had any idea what I was doing, rather than just slurping away down there. It was an empowering feeling. It was like, "first I do this, then I do this, then... Oh shit, what do I do next?" Then I'd go read the book again. Then the next time, I'd get to step 1, 2,3 and then go read the book again. Then I'd get to 1, 2, 3 and 4. Then I'd read the book again. By the time I finished, I knew the frenulum, the fourichete, the front commisure...

I also agree with what I read as the underlying theme of this thread, which is that there's no substitute for enthusiasm. Along that line, the author advocates replacing the term 'foreplay' with 'coreplay' to emphasise that it can be the main event.
I'll bet she would hardly have minded at all if you had the book opened next to her butt and paused a few times to double-check something. :D
 
I concur with the recommendation of this book. A couple of years ago, I read three books on the subject. For guys, this one was by far the best. It's written by a guy. He assumes that you know nothing to start and explains everything from there.

The other two books were written by women. One of the reasons straight guys love lesbians, is because we know what we don't know and assume that lesbians can teach us. Unfortunately, the two books that were written by women just kind of glossed over some really important info almost as if to say, " well, everyone already knows about that". Well, I'm sorry, but guys don't know everything that you and your girlfriends know. One of the books went as far as to have an illustration that labeled some of the anatomical parts, and then in the text used synomyms for some of the key parts so that the illustration didn't match up with the text.

I was in my late 40s when I read 'She Comes First'. The first time that I ate pussy after reading the book was the first time that I really felt like I had any idea what I was doing, rather than just slurping away down there. It was an empowering feeling. It was like, "first I do this, then I do this, then... Oh shit, what do I do next?" Then I'd go read the book again. Then the next time, I'd get to step 1, 2,3 and then go read the book again. Then I'd get to 1, 2, 3 and 4. Then I'd read the book again. By the time I finished, I knew the frenulum, the fourichete, the front commisure...

I also agree with what I read as the underlying theme of this thread, which is that there's no substitute for enthusiasm. Along that line, the author advocates replacing the term 'foreplay' with 'coreplay' to emphasise that it can be the main event.
You honestly don't need to know all the technical anatomy shit like that, though. I've even seen a dissected clit and it wasn't particualrly helpful since 99% of it, you'll never touch or see anyway since the huge, wishbone part is buried under fat and muscle.
 
You honestly don't need to know all the technical anatomy shit like that, though.

I studied Business in college. In the US, Business majors have to study Calculus, which is silly, because business people never use Calculus. I asked a lot of people why we had to study Calculus, and the general consensus was that Calculus teaches students Algebra. Sometimes, it helps to study to the next level to really master the more basic stuff.
 
You honestly don't need to know all the technical anatomy shit like that, though. I've even seen a dissected clit and it wasn't particualrly helpful since 99% of it, you'll never touch or see anyway since the huge, wishbone part is buried under fat and muscle.

Eek, TMI! Roger that, I just want to know where to apply tongue (A) to clit (B), and suck lips (C) between teeth (D), while applying gentle nibbling motions (see illustration).

(I kinda know already, but continuous improvement is the hallmark of any fine craftsman. :D )
 
My SO had read this book to help his sex life with his ex wife, that never panned out, they got divorced anyway....and I'm the one who reaped the rewards of a man who read a book entirely dedicated to eating pussy! ;)

Might be worth getting a copy and sort of leaving it around for your dh! :)

She Comes First

Though I have no interest in eating pussy, I listened to the audiobook of this--fascinating reading and it made me extremely wet. I spent the whole time thinking, "damn, I wish someone would eat me out like that!!!" I learned a lot about my own body and the logistics of cunnilingus and orgasms. Highly recommended. :D
 
I'm not going to put a count of the amount of people that I've been with, but I can honestly say that there were only 2 men that showed any interest in eating my pussy. And I totally let them. All the others gave me all sorts of bogus lines like "it does nothing for me", "I dont like the taste", "why would you want me to do that?". I had a hard time understanding these responses since I *loved* giving a good BJ. Over time though, after enough of these responses and unwillingness, I stopped enjoying giving to where it's a very rare thing for me to do anymore. I'm now of the mindset that if he isnt willing to give, he aint going to get.
 
I'm not going to put a count of the amount of people that I've been with, but I can honestly say that there were only 2 men that showed any interest in eating my pussy. And I totally let them. All the others gave me all sorts of bogus lines like "it does nothing for me", "I dont like the taste", "why would you want me to do that?". I had a hard time understanding these responses since I *loved* giving a good BJ. Over time though, after enough of these responses and unwillingness, I stopped enjoying giving to where it's a very rare thing for me to do anymore. I'm now of the mindset that if he isnt willing to give, he aint going to get.

Right on, girl! Also sounds like you need to find a better pond to fish in. One that has more "sex-positive" people - individuals who like sex a lot and are unashamed about that. I doubt there's many in that category who don't like eating pussy.
 
Pity. You're denying yourself one of the most enjoyable aspects of sexuality. I sometimes feel guilty that I might be taking advantage of my oral subjects for my own selfish pleasure (yeah right). Luckily, they haven't caught on yet.

I'm not denying myself anything. I don't like doing it.

Fortunately, there are plenty of women who don't like receiving, although the standard line on them is that they have some kind of pleasure block.
 
Guys sometimes come off as "Sorry, I really don't want to put my mouth down there - so if you don't mind just give me head and I'll fill you with my stiff dick":confused:
 
Sugaredwalls, would you recommend this book to someone who is already a willing convert?

I'm sure there's more for me to learn, I'm not going to pretend I'm some sort of pussy eating god! (although I am obviously - hahaha)

Oh most definitely, I would recommend it. I thought it was sweet and inciteful...kind of a warm fuzzy guide for eating pussy. You never know when you might learn something new.

I remember the first time a guy went down on me, it was a huge disappointment. I was too naive and young to know better, to tell him what to do. It was frustrating, because he only used the very tip of his tongue. I think he was sort of scared of it but went down on me because that's what was expected. It was with a girl going down on me, where I discovered the joys of getting my pussy licked. From that experience, I learned to be more direct at communicating what I liked. ;) There's a lot of guys out there that are eager to please orally, if you just help them out a bit. If you just lay there and don't say anything, they aren't going to know what you like and don't like.

My ex used to frustrate me too, he would go down on me and when I would get going, get close to orgasm, he would stop and want to finish me off with his fingers. Arghhhh, frustrating because once the moment is lost, forget it. And when we say "Oh God, don't stop" , really, don't stop! I know it sounds so demanding but sometimes if you switch positions, or move your tongue, it can diminish the strength of our orgasm.

Girls? Anything else? Pussy licking pet peeves? I think Guys like hearing this stuff.
 
Girls? Anything else? Pussy licking pet peeves? I think Guys like hearing this stuff.
This one does - but what he likes even more are detailed, explicit descriptions (illustrated would be nice but don't want to push my luck :D) of what really works.
 
This one does - but what he likes even more are detailed, explicit descriptions (illustrated would be nice but don't want to push my luck :D) of what really works.

Uh, don't think that was quite the point of this thread and I'm sure if you tool around all of the lit forums, there are probably loads of explicit oral sex descriptions. :)
 
Uh, don't think that was quite the point of this thread and I'm sure if you tool around all of the lit forums, there are probably loads of explicit oral sex descriptions. :)

And I could also go to the stories for lots more! No wonder I like this place. ;)
 
Oh most definitely, I would recommend it. I thought it was sweet and inciteful...kind of a warm fuzzy guide for eating pussy. You never know when you might learn something new.

I remember the first time a guy went down on me, it was a huge disappointment. I was too naive and young to know better, to tell him what to do. It was frustrating, because he only used the very tip of his tongue. I think he was sort of scared of it but went down on me because that's what was expected. It was with a girl going down on me, where I discovered the joys of getting my pussy licked. From that experience, I learned to be more direct at communicating what I liked. ;) There's a lot of guys out there that are eager to please orally, if you just help them out a bit. If you just lay there and don't say anything, they aren't going to know what you like and don't like.

My ex used to frustrate me too, he would go down on me and when I would get going, get close to orgasm, he would stop and want to finish me off with his fingers. Arghhhh, frustrating because once the moment is lost, forget it. And when we say "Oh God, don't stop" , really, don't stop! I know it sounds so demanding but sometimes if you switch positions, or move your tongue, it can diminish the strength of our orgasm.

Girls? Anything else? Pussy licking pet peeves? I think Guys like hearing this stuff.

A guy could learn alot about how to please a woman by learning from a woman what to do. Girls do know how to have fun when a skillful man is not around. Not the place here but wonder if a guy can do a guy better than a girl
 
A guy could learn alot about how to please a woman by learning from a woman what to do. Girls do know how to have fun when a skillful man is not around. Not the place here but wonder if a guy can do a guy better than a girl
you think so or know so?
 
A guy could learn alot about how to please a woman by learning from a woman what to do. Girls do know how to have fun when a skillful man is not around. Not the place here but wonder if a guy can do a guy better than a girl

Yeah the trick is finding one that will listen and not forget. :rolleyes:

To be honest I'm not terribly sure a guy could give a better blowjob than a woman, most guys are pretty simple to give the best blowjob ever to, showing up is about the only requirement besides opening your mouth. :D

In this way they are lots better, there's only thing, there isn't grades of sensitivity, there isn't an opening to insert things into, unless he is freaky. I mean dang giving a blowjob is simple, open mouth, insert dick, bob head fondle balls and moan. I've been proposed to because I was doing that on a guy. :confused:
 
Eek, TMI! Roger that, I just want to know where to apply tongue (A) to clit (B), and suck lips (C) between teeth (D), while applying gentle nibbling motions (see illustration).

(I kinda know already, but continuous improvement is the hallmark of any fine craftsman. :D )
It is pretty interesting to realize that the average woman is packing a 6 inch clit, though. You just can't touch it like you can in guys.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...-en.jpg/687px-Clitoris_anatomy_labeled-en.jpg

Yeah the trick is finding one that will listen and not forget. :rolleyes:

To be honest I'm not terribly sure a guy could give a better blowjob than a woman, most guys are pretty simple to give the best blowjob ever to, showing up is about the only requirement besides opening your mouth. :D

In this way they are lots better, there's only thing, there isn't grades of sensitivity, there isn't an opening to insert things into, unless he is freaky. I mean dang giving a blowjob is simple, open mouth, insert dick, bob head fondle balls and moan. I've been proposed to because I was doing that on a guy. :confused:
It's too bad I can't take you up on that challenge. :D I'm sure you've pleased tons of guys, but it's not like I haven't, too. I know for sure, the best blowjob ever isn't as simple as you make it sound, though. :cool:
 
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Yeah the trick is finding one that will listen and not forget. :rolleyes:

To be honest I'm not terribly sure a guy could give a better blowjob than a woman, most guys are pretty simple to give the best blowjob ever to, showing up is about the only requirement besides opening your mouth. :D

In this way they are lots better, there's only thing, there isn't grades of sensitivity, there isn't an opening to insert things into, unless he is freaky. I mean dang giving a blowjob is simple, open mouth, insert dick, bob head fondle balls and moan. I've been proposed to because I was doing that on a guy. :confused:

Talk about double standards! Come off it.
 
Oh most definitely, I would recommend it. I thought it was sweet and inciteful...kind of a warm fuzzy guide for eating pussy. You never know when you might learn something new.

I remember the first time a guy went down on me, it was a huge disappointment. I was too naive and young to know better, to tell him what to do. It was frustrating, because he only used the very tip of his tongue. I think he was sort of scared of it but went down on me because that's what was expected. It was with a girl going down on me, where I discovered the joys of getting my pussy licked. From that experience, I learned to be more direct at communicating what I liked. ;) There's a lot of guys out there that are eager to please orally, if you just help them out a bit. If you just lay there and don't say anything, they aren't going to know what you like and don't like.

My ex used to frustrate me too, he would go down on me and when I would get going, get close to orgasm, he would stop and want to finish me off with his fingers. Arghhhh, frustrating because once the moment is lost, forget it. And when we say "Oh God, don't stop" , really, don't stop! I know it sounds so demanding but sometimes if you switch positions, or move your tongue, it can diminish the strength of our orgasm.

Girls? Anything else? Pussy licking pet peeves? I think Guys like hearing this stuff.

As it happens I've ordered it anyway, the reviews are too good not too! But thanks anyway.
 
my boyfriend isnt the least bit submissive.
But when i ask for it, he indulges me - he knows its a 2 way street and i would gladly return the favor.
 
I like doing it very much, so I do it. Just the thought of doing it makes me salivate like A Pavlov's dog!

I think Dan Savage said it best. Oral sex should be a given in a sexual relationship. If you want it and don't receive it, you have a serious problem. If you receive it and it isn't loving or good, you have a problem and you have a serious problem if your partner doesn't care.

PB, we've been following your relationship's challenges for a while now, and I must say reading what you just wrote makes me sad. I'd insist if I were you. But of course, I'm not you, just a stranger who cares whether you're happy.
 
As it happens I've ordered it anyway, the reviews are too good not too! But thanks anyway.

I think you will enjoy the read. I downloaded He Comes Next to my iphone Kindle App. I already love to give oral but it was under 10 bucks and I figured, what the hell? You never know when you can learn something new or gain incite to male sexuality!
 
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