The Queernesss Thread

[DVS]

"I'm fine with gay people as long as I don't see it."="I'm okay with hot lesbian porn but if I see two dudes touch each other in a non-platonic fashion I go into a gay panic and lose every inch of credibility I have as a decent human being."

I don't mind hot lesbian action either, but gay action is less exciting. Two commingling hairy bodies don't thrill me. It used to bother me more. When I was in college, I got hit on by gay men a LOT.

The only reason I can think of for that is because I was such an attractive and masculine male figure, they just couldn't resist. I've gotten older and while I still get the eye from a few gay men, the traffic has slowed down quite a bit. I guess I'm not as pretty as I once was. It happens to the best of us.

 

[KoPilot]

Two commingling hairy bodies

BARA HIJACK

^I had the opportunity to buy this shirt before the run ended and DIDN'T AND I'M SO MAD

I love bara *A*

 

[Stella_Omega]

Oh, come on, where's the queer in that?
At least let them try on some dresses

http://31.media.tumblr.com/d67ce2948b2f669546c5c9a90f6029d6/tumblr_n5djtxBEkg1tal87uo1_1280.jpg

http://24.media.tumblr.com/752af495f30eb0903b0f17135f64309f/tumblr_n58notdgOI1sv6wa5o2_1280.jpg
those two were way too big...

 

[Netzach]

Wait, what, Yayoi got better while I was off getting old or something.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Wait, what, Yayoi got better while I was off getting old or something.

It's gone to the gym, anyway...

 

[bhndblueyes88]

It's gone to the gym, anyway...

Regardless, I do believe I'll be bookmarking this particular thread page

 

[Netzach]

It's gone to the gym, anyway...

Seriously! Not that I don't like waify fem guys either. (Did futanari kill the waify yayoi star?)

 

[KoPilot]

Seriously! Not that I don't like waify fem guys either. (Did futanari kill the waify yayoi star?)

Oh heavens no. Ukes are nowhere near on the endangered species list-- like seriously my favorite waify waifu boy transformation was turning a burly Autobot character with a voice actor that sounded like a chain smoker into something that resembled a prepubescent girl with cat ear shapes on his head.

I just think it's funny that I knew of "yaoi" when I was 14, and only heard of "bara" like... 8 years later. And I like bara way more :V

 

[Netzach]

Oh heavens no. Ukes are nowhere near on the endangered species list-- like seriously my favorite waify waifu boy transformation was turning a burly Autobot character with a voice actor that sounded like a chain smoker into something that resembled a prepubescent girl with cat ear shapes on his head.

I just think it's funny that I knew of "yaoi" when I was 14, and only heard of "bara" like... 8 years later. And I like bara way more :V

This is the generational divide. "Drawn porn FTW" versus "Drawn porn WTF?" Now I know how my mother feels with a tablet.

I like - I just don't know.

I am completely in favor of the above scenario.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I've kinda gone past that even.

Right now, I'm loving monster porn impossible kinda things-- there's an artist Synthean that really appeals to me, for one. (click at your own risk kids, NSFW is the least of it-- animal transformation, feminisation, body horror etc. No gore or vore though. I doubt that will ever turn me on much)

 

[StrayKat]

I've kinda gone past that even.

Right now, I'm loving monster porn impossible kinda things-- there's an artist Synthean that really appeals to me, for one. (click at your own risk kids, NSFW is the least of it-- animal transformation, feminisation, body horror etc. No gore or vore though. I doubt that will ever turn me on much)

The idea per se is not my cup of tea but I find those pictures rather fascinating.
Thanks for sharing Stella. Feel free to post more

 

[Stella_Omega]

The idea per se is not my cup of tea but I find those pictures rather fascinating.
Thanks for sharing Stella. Feel free to post more

It's hard to find the right combination of humor and perversity and-- oddly enough-- sympathy, that gets my gears grinding.

 

[KoPilot]

I've kinda gone past that even.

Right now, I'm loving monster porn impossible kinda things-- there's an artist Synthean that really appeals to me, for one. (click at your own risk kids, NSFW is the least of it-- animal transformation, feminisation, body horror etc. No gore or vore though. I doubt that will ever turn me on much)

Those are cool! They remind me a bit of an artist I'm currently in love with, Nitro_Titan: http://aryion.com/g4/user/Nitro_Titan

Might I make a light vore convert out of you, Stella?

Here are a couple faves:
http://aryion.com/g4/view/265458
http://aryion.com/g4/view/262487

I should make an account there and start taking commissions

 

[Stella_Omega]

Those are cool! They remind me a bit of an artist I'm currently in love with, Nitro_Titan: http://aryion.com/g4/user/Nitro_Titan

Might I make a light vore convert out of you, Stella?

Here are a couple faves:
http://aryion.com/g4/view/265458
http://aryion.com/g4/view/262487

Oh, those are okay, not a huge turnon or anything.. I tend to want genital action. Like someone little on a giant tongue that is forcing their legs apart. Not so much to eat them as to... *eat* them. One track mind, me.

http://aryion.com/g4/view/205021
http://homestuckfetishart.tumblr.com/tagged/macro-or-micro

I should make an account there and start taking commissions

yes, you should!

 

[Allyourbase]

Random blurt:

Like I have nothing else to be emotional about, for some weird reason today is a day of sadness about gender. My frequent needs to be seen as a man, failing miserably because I didn't grow up as one, will probably never be anything else than a constant hoping people humor me to play pretend, and it's killing me. I wish the partner would stop referring to me as 'wife'.

This too shall pass.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I wish the partner would stop referring to me as 'wife'.

I totally relate to this.
I find that basic pronouns don't bother me, gender-wise Call me she or he, I don't much care. Honorifics though-- ma'am, mistress, wife... nuh-uh. I hate it.

 

[StrayKat]

I totally relate to this.
I find that basic pronouns don't bother me, gender-wise Call me she or he, I don't much care. Honorifics though-- ma'am, mistress, wife... nuh-uh. I hate it.

I dont understand. Is wife a honorific term? I call my husband my husband not to honor him in any way but to explain our relationship. He signed a paper saying he will live with me and all that jazz, that makes him my husband and makes me his wife. Just a definition of what we are, even by the law.

If I had a slave I would be his/her mistress I guess (not Mistress). Kind of explaining our relationship when we talk to other people again.

I am confused now, why does it bother you?

 

[BiBunny]

Ok, I desperately want to bitch about something that's been bothering me a lot lately, and I think this is probably the place to do it. But if it doesn't really fit here, just ignore me, ok?

Lately, I've been seeing a lot of talk about bisexual people. Fine, no problem with that in and of itself. But what does bother me is the way that bisexuality and monogamy are being talked about.

Yes, I understand that the knee-jerk "Just because someone's bi doesn't mean they can't be monogamous!" is a reaction to (usually non-bi) people thinking that we're a bunch of hos who can't be trusted. I don't have a problem with bi people and/or our apologists correcting misconceptions.

What I do have a fucking problem with is how it seems like we've gone from "Bi people can be monogamous!" to "If you're bi and not monogamous, you're doing it wrong and making us all look bad." It's never outright stated, of course, but it's there nonetheless.

I understand that polyamory being dismissed as invalid at best and evil at worst is hardly a problem that's limited only to the bisexual people of the world. Straight and gay polys have the same problem. But I suppose it irks me so much because I am one of those awful bi poly people that a large part of the community wants to shove to the back of the crowd and pretend doesn't exist.

It's like, it's ok to be bi, but only if you're bi in this specific way. Otherwise, you're either doing it wrong, or you're a smear on the "movement" or whatever, so please just fuck off because you're making us look bad.

Ugh, I know what I'm trying to say, but I can't make it come out right. Sorry.

 

[Allyourbase]

I totally relate to this.
I find that basic pronouns don't bother me, gender-wise Call me she or he, I don't much care. Honorifics though-- ma'am, mistress, wife... nuh-uh. I hate it.

Oh man, absolutely. If I'm the D in play my SO refers to me as Boss, these days. That's such an improvement.

Pronouns, well, I don't mind much, unless I would never ever get a 'he' anywhere, then I would mind. I get some. Not enough, honestly.

I dont understand. Is wife a honorific term? I call my husband my husband not to honor him in any way but to explain our relationship. He signed a paper saying he will live with me and all that jazz, that makes him my husband and makes me his wife. Just a definition of what we are, even by the law.

If I had a slave I would be his/her mistress I guess (not Mistress). Kind of explaining our relationship when we talk to other people again.

I am confused now, why does it bother you?

The thought of being a wife, mother, ma'am, Mistress, for the rest of my life, no matter what I say, makes something in my chest hurt real bad and my stomach feel like it doesn't really need food right now.

We're not actually married, he uses it to honor the fact that we've been together for so long, that 'boyfriend/girlfriend' or whatever doesn't really cover it. So it's really sweet. But the term itself bothers me, because my gender is weird. And he does know that, but I guess it's not top of mind.

I figured I should just open my mouth about things. So I just asked him if we could think of alternatives. He agreed. (That wasn't that hard, now was it, Allyourbase.)

If I had a slave (and I did have a D/s next to my relationship for a short while) I would be their Sir or Daddi. No sub is going to Mistress me, because that means we're not compatible.

 

[StrayKat]

The thought of being a wife, mother, ma'am, Mistress, for the rest of my life, no matter what I say, makes something in my chest hurt real bad and my stomach feel like it doesn't really need food right now.

We're not actually married, he uses it to honor the fact that we've been together for so long, that 'boyfriend/girlfriend' or whatever doesn't really cover it. So it's really sweet. But the term itself bothers me, because my gender is weird. And he does know that, but I guess it's not top of mind.

I figured I should just open my mouth about things. So I just asked him if we could think of alternatives. He agreed. (That wasn't that hard, now was it, Allyourbase.)

If I had a slave (and I did have a D/s next to my relationship for a short while) I would be their Sir or Daddi. No sub is going to Mistress me, because that means we're not compatible.

Ah I think I understand now, it is a matter of gender definition? I am a female and I feel like female and never wanted to be a male one moment in my life, so I guess that is where the difference is.

I have to note something. Being a mother for the rest if your life once you have children is given. Others, not so much. I am a wife while I am married. When I divorce, not anymore. While we were not married yet my husband referred to me as "my woman".
But nevertheless, I do understand that "for the rest of your life" term can make you feel bad. I dont like it either. It sounds so final. So I take days as they come and dont think about for the rest of my life anything.

 

[Allyourbase]

What I do have a fucking problem with is how it seems like we've gone from "Bi people can be monogamous!" to "If you're bi and not monogamous, you're doing it wrong and making us all look bad." It's never outright stated, of course, but it's there nonetheless.

Oh yeah. This. I know exactly what you mean. In my case my bisexuality is even the *reason* I want a poly angle to our relationship. You know, the thing people tell you that you should fear about bisexuals: they're never satisfied.

Way to project, people. No, I'm never satisfied. Buddhism will tell you that's what suffering is made of, and we all do it.

Ah I think I understand now, it is a matter of gender definition? I am a female and I feel like female and never wanted to be a male one moment in my life, so I guess that is where the difference is.

I have to note something. Being a mother for the rest if your life once you have children is given. Others, not so much. I am a wife while I am married. When I divorce, not anymore. While we were not married yet my husband referred to me as "my woman".
But nevertheless, I do understand that "for the rest of your life" term can make you feel bad. I dont like it either. It sounds so final. So I take days as they come and dont think about for the rest of my life anything.

Yeah it's a gender thing. I've wondered whether I'm FtM but I don't have the body dysphoria to go with it.

And we've been thinking about kids. Seriously, what is holding me back is that gender thing again. I am fine with being a parent, but not with being a mom. I just get a stomach ache thinking about people calling me that. And it's not like you can just politely ask random strangers or the other parents at school to call you something else. Well, you can, but I doubt it would work.

 

[Stella_Omega]

for what its worth, my kids have volunteered to call me 'dad' anytime i give them the word.

I told them I kind of like hearing "mom' describe a deep(er) voiced, bearded (almost twenty hairs now!) person.

And yeah-- I am pretty tired of monogamy being the standard for everything.

 

[BiBunny]

Oh yeah. This. I know exactly what you mean. In my case my bisexuality is even the *reason* I want a poly angle to our relationship. You know, the thing people tell you that you should fear about bisexuals: they're never satisfied.

Way to project, people. No, I'm never satisfied. Buddhism will tell you that's what suffering is made of, and we all do it.

And yeah-- I am pretty tired of monogamy being the standard for everything.

I can't tell y'all how grateful I am that I'm not the only person who feels this way. I tried to explain why it bothered me to a friend the other day, and she just kinda looked at me like I was stupid.

 

[Allyourbase]

for what its worth, my kids have volunteered to call me 'dad' anytime i give them the word.

I told them I kind of like hearing "mom' describe a deep(er) voiced, bearded (almost twenty hairs now!) person.

And yeah-- I am pretty tired of monogamy being the standard for everything.

Really! Your kids are so cool.

Thumbs up for the beard. Heh, I get that 'mom' sounds pretty neat then.

A random association, this reminds me of a scene from GaGa Feminism, by Jack Halberstam (if any of you read it) where the kids of Jack's partner, three and five years old, try to make sense of sex and gender. They'd made up a word to describe Jack: boygirl. And then the older kid starts asking Jack about his genitalia. The younger kid jumps in to tell her older brother how she thinks it works. It's just so cute how they argue about this: "Of course he has a girl thing. He is a girl! A boygirl." "I know he is a girl, but I'm just saying, does he have a penis or..."



That is one of the few things I remember from reading the book. I recall the rest being tougher to stomach.

 

[Allyourbase]

I can't tell y'all how grateful I am that I'm not the only person who feels this way. I tried to explain why it bothered me to a friend the other day, and she just kinda looked at me like I was stupid.

No you're not alone. My toes always curl up when I hear people 'defend' bisexuals by saying things that amount to 'they can totally be monogamous just like normal people'. Uh. Thanks. In so many ways.