They're not only ignorant, they're stupid too

Both statements (yours and Swiftboater's) look grammatically correct to me. As far as LC's statement, though, I think he thinks too much of himself---and not enough about other posters to the forum.

Wow, talk a bout needing to look in the mirror when you said that one. Think you just described yourself pretty damn accurately there oh arrogant one.
 
Nope, that was for a story I was working on

Why are you interested in what I have to say? Last I checked I wasn't a crack head, which is normally your topic of choice.

No, wait, that is not entirely true. You regularly post things to try to get people to write your stories for you.

I try to write in different category every now and again. The crack whore story is over for the rest of this week. I am working on another chapter of my Panama series this week.

I did read some of your stories and they are not bad. But I never wanted you to help me write a story, I was trying to get some interest built up for my Skeeter series(that's the crack whore story) I thought that some readers might have a few suggestions. That was a disappointment.

You answered me with two paragraphs, the first one was a little snide but what the hell I did just insult you a bit too. But your second paragraph was you doing what you love, flinging shit on folks. Well I didn't come here to fuss with you, I made a statement that is true. You do follow pilot from thread to thread and throw shit at him over his slightest sign of not being polite to everybody.

BTW Do you really think that a DA could have satanic tattoos and live in a building where his neighbors see him with a different young girl every night?
It seemed very unrealistic to me, more so than my crack whore stories, just my opinion.

But I have to say, you have your scores and red 'H's that put mine record to shame. Do you write in any categories besides incest? I have nineteen stories and I am in eleven different categories, so I don't have a home field advantage.
 
I just wish one of you would take the high road (or at least use the ignore function.) You often derail interesting threads.
 
I just wish one of you would take the high road (or at least use the ignore function.) You often derail interesting threads.

Bullshit. I am taking the high road. If I initiated attacks on Lovecraft or tore into him like he does to me then, yes, the forum wouldn't be able to function. It's the failure of posters like you to just tell Lovecraft to stop his harrassment campaign whenever he starts it that keeps him going and the threads being globbed up. Nonresponse doesn't work, because posters like you then believe the bullshit he spins and join him.
 
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I try to write in different category every now and again. The crack whore story is over for the rest of this week. I am working on another chapter of my Panama series this week.

I did read some of your stories and they are not bad. But I never wanted you to help me write a story, I was trying to get some interest built up for my Skeeter series(that's the crack whore story) I thought that some readers might have a few suggestions. That was a disappointment.

You answered me with two paragraphs, the first one was a little snide but what the hell I did just insult you a bit too. But your second paragraph was you doing what you love, flinging shit on folks. Well I didn't come here to fuss with you, I made a statement that is true. You do follow pilot from thread to thread and throw shit at him over his slightest sign of not being polite to everybody.

BTW Do you really think that a DA could have satanic tattoos and live in a building where his neighbors see him with a different young girl every night?
It seemed very unrealistic to me, more so than my crack whore stories, just my opinion.

But I have to say, you have your scores and red 'H's that put mine record to shame. Do you write in any categories besides incest? I have nineteen stories and I am in eleven different categories, so I don't have a home field advantage.

Well 'Mikey' to show you I am not a pompous ass like Pilot I can meet a reasonable response with a reasonable response

I will tell you that my Red H's are a bit skewed. My SWB series is very long which means it was down to a "core" audience so less trolls. That is the advantage in a long running series. So the stories outside of SWB (10 right now) all have H's and I am happier with them than the SWB scores.

As for Mark and the tats and "bad boy" image. Most likely you're right. This was my suspension of reality hence "fiction" Just so you know though, I addressed it in chapter 26 when an opposing attorney was trying to get him thrown off of a case. they wanted to tell the state to fire him for being a satanist. Mark showed up with the ACLU by his side citing freedom of religion and discrimination. But for reality sake, most likely it is a reach.

As for category variety, I have limited time to write and SWB took a lot of time. I have written in BDSM and my winter contest entry was fetish. I am submitting a bdsm story tonight and my valentines entry will be Mature.

I have no interest in writing in cats I have no interest in. Good for you for being very versatile.

As for the crackhead crack? You posted a lot about it so it was an easy dig as was the ideas comment. I have never denied mucking up shit from time to time.

As for Pilot? I treat him the way I treated school yard bullies. Think your better? want to pick on people? Well then I will spend my days harassing your sorry ass. You have no idea how many people who are stupid or naive enough to leave this forum and even the site because of the bullshit he has slung at them. He is every bit as bad as scouries except scouries can be funny.
 
As for Pilot? I treat him the way I treated school yard bullies. Think your better? want to pick on people? Well then I will spend my days harassing your sorry ass. You have no idea how many people who are stupid or naive enough to leave this forum and even the site because of the bullshit he has slung at them. He is every bit as bad as scouries except scouries can be funny.

Lovecraft loves to talk for nonexistent people or for others who haven't sanctioned him to talk for them. He also likes to invent and swiftboat.

I think it's quite clear who is being the bully here--he's even owned up to it on this thread that it's a campaign and that he purposely is attempting to bully me. If he isn't posting harrassment against me, there's no harrassment going on--which should pretty well tell everyone how this can quickly stop. He's just didn't like the publishing advice I gave him more than a year ago.

If he stops his bullying attempts of me, this stuff won't be happening on the forum between us. Check out the discussions for yourselves.

Regardless, I'm not going anywhere. His interest is thin here. He'll get bored and leave. What he writes is very targeted and he doesn't seem to approve of what most everyone else writes.
 
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As for Pilot? I treat him the way I treated school yard bullies. Think your better? want to pick on people? Well then I will spend my days harassing your sorry ass. You have no idea how many people who are stupid or naive enough to leave this forum and even the site because of the bullshit he has slung at them. He is every bit as bad as scouries except scouries can be funny.

Lovecraft loves to talk for nonexistent people or for others who haven't sanctioned him to talk for them. He also likes to invent and swiftboat.

I think it's quite clear who is being the bully here--he's even owned up to it on this thread that it's a campaign and that he purposely is attempting to bully me. If he isn't posting harrassment against me, there's no harrassment going on--which should pretty well tell everyone how this can quickly stop. He's just didn't like the publishing advice I gave him more than a year ago.

If he stops his bullying attempts of me, this stuff won't be happening on the forum between us. Check out the discussions for yourselves.

Regardless, I'm not going anywhere. His interest is thin here. He'll get bored and leave. What he writes is very targeted and he doesn't seem to approve of what most everyone else writes.

Sorry fool, your reputation as being a bully(or trying to be) was started long before I got here, hence all the people who have tuned you out on ignore.

As for my interest lagging? No, see you're assuming that everyone out there has your lack of fortitude. I lock on like a pitbull and as for my audience being targeted? 80 percent of your one page yawners are targeted in one category so please find a better topic to speak on.

And of course no one asked me to hop on in and bother you. We both know that you're the one who runs to others for assistance when you are being attacked (shall I post your lame threatening pm you sent me at 3:30 am one morning?)

BTW I noticed our little exchange over in the "Oedipus" thread was removed by a mod. Wonder who did that? Wonder why? Those are both rhetorical questions so save your wind and don't bother answering. Go on and get others to fight your fight.

Although there could come a day I don't post many stories here because I am pursuing other venues, I will stick around just to say "Hi" to you.

You will never admit to it, but you were the one that started this, I'm just the one will continue it. So stew on that "Mr. K"
 
(shall I post your lame threatening pm you sent me at 3:30 am one morning?)

Do you mean this one? (Sent at 1209 a.m. on 6 December 2011):

"Here's one of those PMs you can receive that you haven't made up.

I've been to Grisham's private offices because I was receiving my winnings from a writing contest that he judges and I placed in. Please, by all means, do try to track that down, because there is media coverage to find on it. I'd particularly love to see your face if you did track it down, because the articles on the contest prominently discuss my CIA background. Good hunting. *smile*"

Or this one (Sent at 1143 a.m. on 6 December 2011):

"By the way, I now have clued some of the steadier forum members into who I am--with links to proof. So the next time you rant at me about being a fake, you'll have a few posters you obviously respect thinking you are a silly ass--and perhaps pinning your ears back on the forum. You start all of this; you can stop it by just not doing it."

Because these are the only two PMs I have on record as ever sending you. As others will note, the attempt to get you to stop your harrassment with a link to the truth didn’t stop your bullying for a second—it just provides evidence that just letting you continue your swiftboating with no response has no effect on your bullying ways.
 
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Nonresponse doesn't work, because posters like you then believe the bullshit he spins and join him.

If both of you keep arguing with each other, there's no way to tell you apart. Lovecraft's more than capable of damaging his own reputation without your involvement. (Don't take that as more of an insult than I mean it to be, Lovecraft--I do believe you're well-intentioned. You just tend not to question your initial assessment of a situation.)

P.S.: I don't actually know whether anything Lovecraft says about Pilot is true or false, though I believe that he believes it's all true. I don't think it really matters either way, though. I disagree with Pilot on a lot of things, but I simply ignore him when he says to do something one way that I do a different way.
 
Lovecraft revealed in his last posting that he has discovered he's been peddling lies. Good intentioned? Give me a break. I give more help to writers on this board than he could possibly give--because he doesn't have the knowledge to give it.

(E.g., on another thread after his last attack on me here, he attacked me for having e-books I don't get profit from. As many AH regulars know, though, I don't take profits from my eXcessica books--52 of them--while taking them from my other publishers--primarily because that was a publisher started from within Literotica and I have given all of my profits on those books to eXcessic to help all of the other authors get established. He, like you, can check with eXcessica publisher and Literotica member Selena Kitt on that part. I'll bet neither one of you do before posting your opinions. Good intentioned questioning? Him giving to Literotica more than I do? Hardly. He's just blindly attacking.)

The belief you express in Lovecraft's pack of lies and in his "good intentions" is exactly why I will continue to respond to him when he goes way over the top--because your abilities to process what is posted obviously isn't up to his deluge of crap.

Perhaps one day we'll see how you handle a mean-spirited swiftboating campaign by a pinhead like Lovecraft.

In the meantime, if you don't like it going on like this, pounce on whoever starts something. I can guarantee it won't rebound on me like it will on Lovecraft.

There's a slight chance with the calling of his bluff on this thread that he'll back off. That, of course, would be a good thing for the forum. It's all up to him, though. This is his campaign--and he has acknowledged it as such.
 
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Seriously, Lloyd, your stupid and ironic stepping on your own stated principle aside, where have you been the 350 times it's been pointed out on the forum that this website is a private business? Freedom of speech doesn't come into play here as a right. Beyond that, one's privilege to speak (or post, here) does not supersede another's privilege not to listen (or read, here). The website has given the privilege to erase here, not the privilege to write comments on stories in the story file with indelible ink. Work on figuring that one out, hot shot.

Do you remember that Carly Simon song dedicated to sr?

You're so vain, you probably think this thread is about you.

That a post about personal attacks winds up being a thread filled with personal attacks.

True, but given the interesting thread you started, the ad hominem attacks - with much false information - by sr - do fit in with his classic comment on this site for new writers : "I don't read stories on this site but I think..."

sr's dribble, quoted above, is patent nonsense. Lit is a flag bearer for free speech and regards it as a defining ethos of the site. Forums here are very lightly moderated or unmoderated and scouries and sr are free to publish their nonsense without censure. Not a privilege they offer to others.

To avoid attack by pointy-headed extremists, Lit steers away from under-18 sex and bestiality. That has nothing to do with arbitrarily deleting comments that a writer has asked for.

The site asks authors to self-moderate comments as they do not have sufficient resource to do this.

If you invite public comment, I think you have a moral duty to accept denigrating comments unless they;
- Insult other writers
- break Lit rules
- seem to be drunken babbling.

Just look at what LW authors tolerate as comments without censoring.How thin is your skin?

scouries and sr are bullies which is why this forum is not what is was. But that's what the site accepts. Go figure.
 
Methinks the real bullies just don't like folks fighting back. :D

Again, the forum readers are free to read in on the posting history of Lloyd_5. Be sure and note how constructive that poster has been here over the years.
 
On another forum, I regularly argue with a self-proclaimed monarchist who often says stupid things. However, I make those arguments immediately after he says those stupid things, and I quit arguing once my point has been made. This debate over who threw shit at who first should not have lasted more than two pages.

And with that, I'm getting the hell out of here, before I get coated with shit too.

(For what it's worth, I don't actually dislike any of you--Lovecraft in particular has been nothing but friendly to me.)
 
(For what it's worth, I don't actually dislike any of you--Lovecraft in particular has been nothing but friendly to me.)

And I know you'll want to keep it that, knowing what he'll do if you don't stay friendly. :eek:
 
shall I post your lame threatening pm you sent me at 3:30 am one morning?)

BTW I noticed our little exchange over in the "Oedipus" thread was removed by a mod. Wonder who did that? Wonder why? Those are both rhetorical questions so save your wind and don't bother answering. Go on and get others to fight your fight.

Do you mean this one? (Sent at 1209 a.m. on 6 December 2011):

"Here's one of those PMs you can receive that you haven't made up.

I've been to Grisham's private offices because I was receiving my winnings from a writing contest that he judges and I placed in. Please, by all means, do try to track that down, because there is media coverage to find on it. I'd particularly love to see your face if you did track it down, because the articles on the contest prominently discuss my CIA background. Good hunting. *smile*"

Or this one (Sent at 1143 a.m. on 6 December 2011):

"By the way, I now have clued some of the steadier forum members into who I am--with links to proof. So the next time you rant at me about being a fake, you'll have a few posters you obviously respect thinking you are a silly ass--and perhaps pinning your ears back on the forum. You start all of this; you can stop it by just not doing it."

Because these are the only two PMs I have on record as ever sending you. As others will note, the attempt to get you to stop your harrassment with a link to the truth didn’t stop your bullying for a second—it just provides evidence that just letting you continue your swiftboating with no response has no effect on your bullying ways.

That's what you call lame and threatening? :rolleyes: Here's one definition of threatening: expressing an intention to cause somebody deliberate harm or pain

As for your comments regarding the removal of posts from a certain thread . . . a mod can only remove/delete a post/thread from the forum assigned to him/her although Laurel and Manu have authority on all forums. Check the forum where the "Oedipus" thread is and see if there is a mod. Then you will have a better idea of who may have removed any posts that did not follow forum guidelines and can stop the incorrect innuendoes.
 
That's what you call lame and threatening? :rolleyes: Here's one definition of threatening: expressing an intention to cause somebody deliberate harm or pain

As for your comments regarding the removal of posts from a certain thread . . . a mod can only remove/delete a post/thread from the forum assigned to him/her although Laurel and Manu have authority on all forums. Check the forum where the "Oedipus" thread is and see if there is a mod. Then you will have a better idea of who may have removed any posts that did not follow forum guidelines and can stop the incorrect innuendoes.

This as threatening as it can be for someone who cannot faced some one. Shut up or my friends will jump in.

As all can see it really mattered to me.

and the fact that you have never posted here ML, and do not post often in threads in general tells me he has been at you to be at me.

I know some of the people he's gone to. What he does not get is he is as well liked here as a nazi in a synagogue and blames everyone else for it.

You're a mod find out how many have him on ignore.
 
You're a mod find out how many have him on ignore.

If she did, that would be the first "fact" involved, right? You don't really have any idea who is on ignore and by how many, do you? Just more of your innuendo, isn't it?--just like your speaking for everyone. Just swiftboating.

She might find out how many have you on ignore at the same time, right?
 
This as threatening as it can be for someone who cannot faced some one. Shut up or my friends will jump in.

As all can see it really mattered to me.

and the fact that you have never posted here ML, and do not post often in threads in general tells me he has been at you to be at me.

I know some of the people he's gone to. What he does not get is he is as well liked here as a nazi in a synagogue and blames everyone else for it.

You're a mod find out how many have him on ignore.

You could ask me why I haven't posted instead of assuming.
 
(shall I post your lame threatening pm you sent me at 3:30 am one morning?)

Do you mean this one? (Sent at 1209 a.m. on 6 December 2011):

"Here's one of those PMs you can receive that you haven't made up.

I've been to Grisham's private offices because I was receiving my winnings from a writing contest that he judges and I placed in. Please, by all means, do try to track that down, because there is media coverage to find on it. I'd particularly love to see your face if you did track it down, because the articles on the contest prominently discuss my CIA background. Good hunting. *smile*"

Or this one (Sent at 1143 a.m. on 6 December 2011):

"By the way, I now have clued some of the steadier forum members into who I am--with links to proof. So the next time you rant at me about being a fake, you'll have a few posters you obviously respect thinking you are a silly ass--and perhaps pinning your ears back on the forum. You start all of this; you can stop it by just not doing it."

Because these are the only two PMs I have on record as ever sending you. As others will note, the attempt to get you to stop your harrassment with a link to the truth didn’t stop your bullying for a second—it just provides evidence that just letting you continue your swiftboating with no response has no effect on your bullying ways.


This is called "looking at the source" this is as close to a threat as a mealy mouthed cyber coward like you can get.

Back off or my friends will get involved.

The only point here is that your pussy ass has to run to others and ask them to help you.

Better than that the fact you're pm'ing me at an ungodly hour shows just how much I get to you. Truth fucking hurts doesn't it. Consider me payback for all the others you've insulted and tried to pick on.

And as far as anyone here who seems as if they are posting that I have "good intentions" it's because I have dealt with them on other threads and they know damn well I don't go out of my way to piss anyone off but your arrogant ass.

And I certainly don;t need their defending me, nor do I care if others attack me. Unlike you the opinion of others does not bother me.

But it bothers you don't it? that's why you can never let a point lie without having the last word. with out railing to all who will listen that you are the only person that is right about anything.

Go ahead everyone watch the threads from now on. Watch when someone asks a question. Pilot will answer and normally politely.

Now watch what happens when either the OP disagrees with him or another poster disagrees takes about three posts for him to site everyone else's ignorance and stupidity.

Then it invariably becomes about all his experience and no one here knows anything we're all stupid and ignorant and deluded.

go look at the amazon thread where Onyx wolf despite Pilot's railing that only him and his publishers can get things done on another thread, got a shit load of stories pulled from amazon, there he was with egg on his face and still insisting they were deluded. Piece of work you are,

Now go ahead, start watching and get back to me.


Back to you Pilot, somewhere up there in your babbling you mention me "backing off" maybe I'll learn. Please, I don't back off in person from anyone(bet we're different there for sure) let alone a forum.

I'll tell you what I told the kids in school. I'll meet you and your friends anytime anyplace.
 
All they have to do is look at your posts to me, Swiftboater.

And, no, I haven't asked anyone to intercede for me. And I see nothing wrong in doing so even if I did. The only thing that could be wrong with it is that it doesn't suit your agenda.

Just like going after people who advertise for their stories and e-books here. There's nothing wrong with that either. It's quite legitimate marketing strategy. And you use it too. Your problem is that you don't have as much production to use it on as I do. So, my self-advertising doesn't fulfill your agenda very well either. And your self-advertising looks pretty tame--because there isn't much production from you to base it on.

Now that we both know that you know who I really am (from the hint in your post up the line), then I'm content that you know you have been/are running on unfounded swiftboating innuendo about me as much as I know you are lying about me--in addition to other folks here knowing it too (or certainly, now, being able to find out). :)
 
Well, certainly. That's what the Internet discussion rooms are all about. :D

(And quite obviously why you are following this thread. That's why this thread has over 2,000 reads.)
 
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Do you remember that Carly Simon song dedicated to sr?

You're so vain, you probably think this thread is about you.

Huh. I thought this thread was about me. Well, fine. I'm still gonna think it's about me. Me, me. Glorious me. Me, me, me. Wheee! :)

Hmm. Maybe I should read the thread first. It could be about cannibal lectern salesmen or something. Nah, screw it. It's about me, and that's all that matters. As the old saying goes, ignorance is bliss. I'm not sure what that means, exactly, but it gives me a woody just to say it.

Allrightee. I'll let ya'll get back to starting a religion about me. Have fun!
 
Hell...I forget what this thread was about

And I'm the one who started the dang thing!
 
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