Things done to death in stories

[mrmgp]

Haha, that really made me laugh. I think you need to turn this into a short humor story

I've actually come across quite a few stories with premises almost as outlandish as that. And I hit the "back" button.

On other issues: I don't expect nor want perfect realism from my erotica. Unless they have reason not to be my characters are generally more sexually confident and more physically attractive than "normal" people. I suppose I tend to base the women on actual women I've been with, and describe them as how I might to a friend, accentuating the positives, glossing over the flaws. Spending a sentence talking about how I could see the faint outline of cellulite on her thigh doesn't add much to a story in my mind, nor would say "her legs obviously hadn't been shaved in a couple days and I could feel her stubble shredding my skin like dozens of tiny needles." My point is, that realism can be just as annoying and distracting as ridiculous perfection.

Of course, you don't want to go into great detail on every little physical imperfection the person has unless it is a fetish story. But it's also just as ridiculous for authors to describe how perfect the characters in the story are. The man has a ten-inch cock as thick as a beer can, he's perfectly muscled, he has a chin and jawline straight out of a Renaissance sculpture, he's tall. Makes me wish the author would give him a flaw like breath that could corrode steel or he farts too much because of a digestive problem just so the bastard seems a little more human. The same goes for women. The women are usually perfect in every aspect. They have beautifully styled hair and DD or larger natural breasts and a flat or washboard stomach and long, shapely legs and perfect toes. Makes me wish the author would give her buck teeth or a big mole on one of her eyelids just so that she comes off as a real human being.

I say the less detail about the characters the better. Let the reader decide if the man in the story looks more like Tom Selleck or Fred Flintstone. Let the reader decide if he has a dick so long that drags on the floor or he's just an average 6 inches. Let the reader decide if the woman in the story is a blonde or brunette. Let the reader decide if she weighs 110 pounds or 200. The less said about physical descriptions, the better.

Here's how I would describe a woman if I was writing a story about a man meeting a woman at, say the bar of a nice hotel:

When he first laid eyes upon her, he almost didn't see her. She was, after all, just another face in the crowd. But for some reason, he found his eyes falling back to her, and for some reason he couldn't explain, he found himself starting to become attracted to her, and this surprised him.

She wasn't a knockout by any means. She definitely wouldn't make the glamor magazine covers. But she was still very pretty in an average, "plain-Jane" sort of way. She seemed to smile easily when she talked to those around her, and appeared to have a good sense of humor based upon the number of times he watched as she laughed heartily in a way that made her breasts quiver beneath the blouse she wore. She seemed to have an easy-going, approachable manner about her, and after so many times of being shot down by the "beauty queens" who frequented this place, maybe his subconscious was telling him that it was time to stop being so unrealistic about his expectations and find himself a "real" woman. A woman like the one he was looking at on the other side of the bar.

Maybe it was time for a change in tastes, he decided. After all, he didn't see himself as someone who had a whole lot to offer the "beauty queens" when they had their pick of men who were far wealthier, more intelligent, more charming and witty, and, damn it, far more handsome and in much better physical shape than he was.

Maybe, he thought to himself, he should approach the woman he found his gaze fixed upon. The worst that could happen was that he got shot down once more, and have to go home again to spend another intimate night with a bottle of lotion and his own right hand. But on the other hand, maybe this woman was the one he was looking for all his life. She might not be the most beautiful woman he'd ever laid eyes upon, but if things did go well, it wouldn't be like living out the Willie Nelson song with the line "Last night I came in at two with a ten but at ten I woke up with a two."

He swallowed the rest of his drink, took a deep breath to steady his nerves, then started walking across the bar toward her.
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I find this to be much better. No ages given, no body shapes, no breast sizes, no cock sizes, and the reader can fill in the rest of the details about how the people look all by themselves. The only thing we know about these characters is that they aren't hunks or babes by the "conventional" standards. But everything else is open to personal interpretation. Is the man a twentysomething or is he near 50? Is the woman barely of legal age to drink or is has she already seen 40 years go by in the rearview mirror of her life? Is the man in fair shape, or does he have a few extra pounds on him? Is the woman thin or larger in size? Is the man balding, or does he have a full, thick head of hair? Is the woman a blonde, a brunette, or a redhead, and is her hair long or short, straight or permed? Does the man have a 10-inch cock stirring in his pants (jeans or dress slacks?) or is he of average endowment? Does the woman have DD breasts or is she a B-cup?

Most readers aren't so lazy that they can't fill in their own blanks about how the people look. My own preference is to fill in my own blanks myself.

 

[Erotic-Kiss]

When he first laid eyes upon her, he almost didn't see her. She was, after all, just another face in the crowd. But for some reason, he found his eyes falling back to her, and for some reason he couldn't explain, he found himself starting to become attracted to her, and this surprised him.

She wasn't a knockout by any means. She definitely wouldn't make the glamor magazine covers. But she was still very pretty in an average, "plain-Jane" sort of way. She seemed to smile easily when she talked to those around her, and appeared to have a good sense of humor based upon the number of times he watched as she laughed heartily in a way that made her breasts quiver beneath the blouse she wore. She seemed to have an easy-going, approachable manner about her, and after so many times of being shot down by the "beauty queens" who frequented this place, maybe his subconscious was telling him that it was time to stop being so unrealistic about his expectations and find himself a "real" woman. A woman like the one he was looking at on the other side of the bar.

Maybe it was time for a change in tastes, he decided. After all, he didn't see himself as someone who had a whole lot to offer the "beauty queens" when they had their pick of men who were far wealthier, more intelligent, more charming and witty, and, damn it, far more handsome and in much better physical shape than he was.

Maybe, he thought to himself, he should approach the woman he found his gaze fixed upon. The worst that could happen was that he got shot down once more, and have to go home again to spend another intimate night with a bottle of lotion and his own right hand. But on the other hand, maybe this woman was the one he was looking for all his life. She might not be the most beautiful woman he'd ever laid eyes upon, but if things did go well, it wouldn't be like living out the Willie Nelson song with the line "Last night I came in at two with a ten but at ten I woke up with a two."

He swallowed the rest of his drink, took a deep breath to steady his nerves, then started walking across the bar toward her.
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QUOTE]
I like this, too. I'll expect the next installment soon. Once you start a story, you really must finish it.

Signed,
Your psudo-stalker

 

[mrmgp]

QUOTE]
I like this, too. I'll expect the next installment soon. Once you start a story, you really must finish it.

Signed,
Your psudo-stalker

Hi, again. Fancy meeting you here! I might just write that story. It got my interest piqued, too. I'll have to come up with some names for the characters now.

 

[Erotic-Kiss]

Hi, again. Fancy meeting you here! I might just write that story. It got my interest piqued, too. I'll have to come up with some names for the characters now.

Just don't name her Myrtle. lol*
I think names will be important, actually. If you're not wanting to describe your characters you can insert some sort of "feel" for them by their name. Cause, let me tell ya... "Myrtle" does not evoke sensuous thoughts, even if she's "plain."

Oh, and don't call him "Kermit." Something about a charming frog doesn't make me want to read more.

Great luck! I look forward to seeing it! (seriously)

 

[Goldeniangel]

wow... i missed out on lots of fun coversation over the weekend! damn!

anyway, about the realism thing... i have noticedt hat a lot of my stories that have been more realistic have been getting great comments but not so great votes. that's something that i thought was really interesting...

i just wrote an interracial story - and i'm putting a shameless plug by posting the link: http://english.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=205397 - and it's gotten a lot of comments and feedback on how much people really like it. Mostly because i didn't do the whole "big black guy with big black cock gets girl"... instead it's a story where the black guy has the smaller cock than the white guy, and he gets an hot asian because he's not drunk off his ass and so he's actually available to pleasure her. and then the white guy ends up getting another girlfriend later, and stops getting so drunk at parties that he cant' get it up = thereby learning his lesson. and allt he feedback - other than the racist bigots anyway - has been fantastic, but it's got low scores. it's just really odd. the feedback tells me they like the realistic stuff, and the scores are saying no!

so i dont know what's wrong.

oh, and by the way, that whole story beginning was AWESOME! let's hear it for nondescribing! i had a GREAT image in my head and there was nothing to distract me from picturing hte person as i wanted! LOVE IT!

 

[Typo Fu Master]

I say the less detail about the characters the better. Let the reader decide if the man in the story looks more like Tom Selleck or Fred Flintstone. Let the reader decide if he has a dick so long that drags on the floor or he's just an average 6 inches. Let the reader decide if the woman in the story is a blonde or brunette. Let the reader decide if she weighs 110 pounds or 200. The less said about physical descriptions, the better.

For every reader that doesn't want details, there's another that wants to be drowned in them.

There are lots of cliches and overused devices in porn and they do get tiresome, but at the same time remember that porn is basically sexual propaganda. It's fairy tale. It's not sex as it is, it's sex as we wish it would be.

All the guys are studs, all the women are knock-outs. All the cocks are huge and hard, all the pussies are wet and tight. All the orgasms are earth-shattering and simultaneous, and incest is good clean fun. Secretaries love it when their bosses screw them on their desks, and all teachers are just dying to fuck their students. You can take a girl over your knee and spank her and she'll love it, and if you're ever caught shoplifting, it's for sure you'll have to fuck the security guard (and you'll love it).

What makes a bad story is failure of imagination. When the author can't think of a creative way to describe someone or something, he falls back on these cliches, and when that happens it's best to just back-click out of there and leave all the 12-inchers and double D's to their own devices.

I mentioned something to this effect earlier. Realism is nice, but not very arousing if you're mentioning pimples and nose hair. I'm not knocking those that want to read about real people having real sex, but would you want to read about it if it was written badly? I believe the same applies to the typical mega-cock and ultra-boob stories.

That said, variety is the spice of life. Not to mention the fact that not everyone likes women with huge breasts and men with gargantuan cocks.

 

[mack_the_knife]

A girl on girl scene where it is, once again, the most incredible, sublime thing she has ever felt, more intimate than having sex with a man could EVER be.

 

[mrmgp]

A girl on girl scene where it is, once again, the most incredible, sublime thing she has ever felt, more intimate than having sex with a man could EVER be.

I'm amazed at how quickly absolutely straight women can be seduced into a lesbian experience in many stories. Especially the stories where the character is a 1000% straight, "uptight" Christian conservative who can be so turned by a single kiss. It's probably not only a sexual fantasy on the part of the author, but iprobably political as well. Kind of like all 1000% straight, "uptight" Christian conservative women are merely a lesbian encounter away from becoming hardcore Democrats.

I love sapphic erotica, but I firmly believe that 999 out of 1000 men who tried to write such stories should never have made the attempt in the first place.

 

[Pyro Paul]

other faults

im not sure if these where mentioned on things are wrong with porn. aside women having huger tits, guys having longer dicks and orgasims that last hours and fill buckets, women turn lesbo in a kiss, girls in reluctant or rape type stories or pornos after having it put in them instantly are not reluctant and are enjoying it, that the 'perfect' busty woman, always finds the 'perfect' endowed man, that most all women are plucked trimmed and/or shaved down there, tan lines; never heard of em!, that guys raging hardons are like indistructable rocks and dont hurt when they are pumbled or miss and hit something like the wall, guys can go soft and hard at will, a women saying 'well hi there' can make any normal man instantly have a boner, no matter how often they cum or how hard they screw the main charicters never get tired untill its convenunt, seamingly non erotic situations- for instance a fire/earthquake inside a house thats about to collapse- the men manage to think more about how the woman are dressed and get a hardon rather than fear for their life and piss themselves, men and women can have sex for days with little to no rest.

these things are just questionable things that you often see in erotic stories, pornos crap even movies (not nessarly just in literotica) which are very questionable to me.

as for the earlyer conversation of having sex through multiply orgasims or over an extended period of time. i know of only 2 people that have had sex contantly through a 24 hour period. and they where only able to do this with a fist full of pills. (party pills+viagra) and after it was all done, i think the girl of the 2 had to go to a hospital for some chemical intoxication or something. and the guy had to take a week off because his knickers and bits hurt so much that he couldnt even sit up straight.

 

[naughtygirl69s]

Call me crazy but forgoe the details, get to the sex and provide LOTS of dirty talking

oh and the teasing, build-up, anticipation, subtle stuff, really works.

I realize I just contradicted myself but I dont' feel like explaining. I'll wait for someone else to explain it for me

 

[Mikro]

Dd

Ever come across things in adult stories that you just wish would stop appearing? Here's things that immediately make me hit the "Back" button on my browser because they've been done to death:

1. Anatomy sizes. Ever seem like no man in a story has a dick less than 8 inches and no thinner than a beer can? Ever seem like no woman in a story has less than DD breasts?


3. Ever notice how most women in stories have faucet-like pussies that gush so much upon arousal that they almost get the floor wet? I don't know of too many women who get wet enough to completely soak their panties and get the whole insides of their thighs wet with lubrication. Actually, I don't know of any woman with this ability.



Just thought I'd vent a little about my annoyances with adult stories.

I have to agree that this is a good thread. But i also have to add that of the 3 main women in my life (10 years or more)

No1 had 38DD boob's and when aroused used to have juice run down her leg, embarrassing but a good advert.

No2 has DD tit's and remains almost dry however much she get's turned on

N3 had 32a tit's and what i call normal moisture.

So what really is The Norm

 

[susurrus]

I agree with everything I've read so far. Although it doesn't necessarily make me want to back out of a story when I read such detailed description, it *does* make me wonder: What the hell does this matter?

I guess my problem is a writer who simply *has* to include numbers, of virtually *any* kind. As already stated, yes, there *are* men with 12 inch cocks. I'm sure they exist. The statement that goes with that in most stories that bothers me is: "twelve inch," followed by, "rock hard." Biologically, I think the human body reserves most of its blood for purposes other than remaining static in the corpus cavernosa for an undetermined amount of time. I may be wrong on this, and feel free to correct me, but I don't think, even if a guy's cock actually *does* get to that length, that it ever gets *fully* hard. At least, not as hard as my own six-incher.

As well, there are *many* DD breasts out there. A lot more than most people like to acknowledge. The gripe I have with writers of sex stories, is that the women who possess them always have 26 inch waists and only weigh around 120. Sorry, ain't happening. Yeah, there are the odd one or two out there (we won't get into surgery), but most of your DD women fall under the BBW category. DD breasts, fat girl. Sorry, but that's *usually* the way it goes.

The ones I always like are, "He pulled off his underwear, revealing a perfect 9 inch cock," or "She released the clasp on her bra, and her 38DD's bounced out into my face." So, everybody in these stories is able to accurately measure such things at a glance? Or do they keep a tape measure by the bed, so they can quick get a dimension right off the bat. I haven't read one yet where, "When he took off his pants, I grabbed my ruler and, placing it against his manhood, announced, 'Sorry, I only do guys with at least 10 inches. Please leave.'"

Of course, I've had readers give me feedback saying, "You should have given more description, so I could visualize what the wife looked like." What a guy would like to write back is, "Geez, don't ya have an imagination?" I try to keep my descriptions vague, so that , hopefully, the reader can plug in whoever they like into the role (the teller at the bank, the guy who did your roof, your sister...) and when I write to new authors, I try to emphasize to them to*not* make such descriptions with numbers, *unless* it's pertinent to the story. When the guy drops his drawers, I try to tell them: Use comparisons. Don't nail it down to the last millimeter.

 

[mack_the_knife]

I'm amazed at how quickly absolutely straight women can be seduced into a lesbian experience in many stories. Especially the stories where the character is a 1000% straight, "uptight" Christian conservative who can be so turned by a single kiss. It's probably not only a sexual fantasy on the part of the author, but iprobably political as well. Kind of like all 1000% straight, "uptight" Christian conservative women are merely a lesbian encounter away from becoming hardcore Democrats.

I love sapphic erotica, but I firmly believe that 999 out of 1000 men who tried to write such stories should never have made the attempt in the first place.

In all the women I've been with, I don't believe I've changed one's political persuasion in the sack. God knows I've tried. One or two have gotten religious on me, but never did they start shouting "Cut taxes! Stop activist judges!" Though I have to admit that would be kinda a turn on.

 

[DJHyrrikhayne]

Although I haven't had time to fully read it yet, I will have to stay on top of this thread... I can see the advice and pointers coming in handy real soon.

 

[mrmgp]

The ones I always like are, "He pulled off his underwear, revealing a perfect 9 inch cock," or "She released the clasp on her bra, and her 38DD's bounced out into my face." So, everybody in these stories is able to accurately measure such things at a glance? Or do they keep a tape measure by the bed, so they can quick get a dimension right off the bat. I haven't read one yet where, "When he took off his pants, I grabbed my ruler and, placing it against his manhood, announced, 'Sorry, I only do guys with at least 10 inches. Please leave.'"

Fucking hilarious commentary!

 

[glynndah]

In a great number of the stories posted, the size of the man's cock is mentioned. How do they know? Did they measure? Come on. Confess. Have you measured?

 

[mrmgp]

In a great number of the stories posted, the size of the man's cock is mentioned. How do they know? Did they measure? Come on. Confess. Have you measured?

Wonder if you can have it professionally measured and have the results put on a notarized document.

Whip out your card to someone and declare: "Ma'am, I'm an 8.5 incher, and I'm here to help you."

 

[JamesSD]

In a great number of the stories posted, the size of the man's cock is mentioned. How do they know? Did they measure? Come on. Confess. Have you measured?

Most guys have measured. Maybe not all, but more than not.

 

[mrmgp]

Most guys have measured. Maybe not all, but more than not.

Yeah, but the point is, no one in stories seems to measure out as average. 8" is probably the smallest size mentioned in "regular" porn. Much smaller if it's a cuckold story where the guy gets off on being humiliated and outclassed by other men who bone his wife.

 

[SlickTony]

why do the virgin females ALWAYS have a hymen that breaks open with a burst of pain?

I have not done a first time story, but if I did write that I'd be strictly realistic and based on my own experience.

 

[jason999]

A girl on girl scene where it is, once again, the most incredible, sublime thing she has ever felt, more intimate than having sex with a man could EVER be.

Oh man, so much word to this statement. That bugs the heck out of me. I've only read a couple of erotic stories but the girl-on-girl themes seem to drag on for there to be no penetration and little variation besides some major naked groping going on. Bamp chika bamp bamp!

 

[mrmgp]

Just wanted to add another cliche. Reading through another thread where someone was commenting on a father/daughter rape story and was surprised that Lit allowed it. Don't condone incest, certainly don't condone rape. But occasionally I do read incest stories. Here's another cliche that's gotten old. Ever notice how in the parent/offspring stories, no matter how old the offspring is, they call their parents "mommy" and "daddy"? Do people who read these stories only get off by those words? If the word mom or dad is used, do they suddenly lose the mood?

 

[jason999]

That does really grate. I've never read any incest material (everybody has to have boundaries), but I have seen the previews both on websites and on the occasional Oh-Limewire-confused-music-videos-with-mommy-having-sex-with-her-teenage-son slip up. I think that's a device writer's use to court the reader's perversion. Really bring home the fact that daddy is, indeed, banging the bejesus out of his daughter.

 

[mrmgp]

That does really grate. I've never read any incest material (everybody has to have boundaries), but I have seen the previews both on websites and on the occasional Oh-Limewire-confused-music-videos-with-mommy-having-sex-with-her-teenage-son slip up. I think that's a device writer's use to court the reader's perversion. Really bring home the fact that daddy is, indeed, banging the bejesus out of his daughter.

Just the author mentioning that they are related is enough of a reminder for me. Don't need "Fuck me daddy!" or "Take my big cock mommy!" or "Suck it sis!" or "Put it up my ass big brother!" fifty thousand times to drive the point home.

 

[jason999]

Just the author mentioning that they are related is enough of a reminder for me. Don't need "Fuck me daddy!" or "Take my big cock mommy!" or "Suck it sis!" or "Put it up my ass big brother!" fifty thousand times to drive the point home.

I'm sure...