flyguy69
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You dance, EE plays guitar, I'll... get beer!Angeline said:If he plays it, yeah. I'm another story....
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You dance, EE plays guitar, I'll... get beer!Angeline said:If he plays it, yeah. I'm another story....
flyguy69 said:Plagiarism, shlagiarism... can you dance to it?
Ahh, you're just looking in her eyes!eagleyez said:Dance and sway,
Hands wrapped around
In a Hammerdown way...
She's a good learner in the straight key-
I hold the twelve and see melody
Before me.
flyguy69 said:You dance, EE plays guitar, I'll... get beer!
UBU said:Found Poem #69
To be
Or not to be
That is the question
Follows all the "rules," doesn't it? Yet, I doubt if people would accept it as readily as they did a quote they hadn't heard of. Mr. Dada's moniker is interesting because dada was sort of the start of "found" objects being presented as art. But looking at the most famous examples of Marcel Duchamp's "ready mades" proves my point -- one was a urinal, the other the Mona Lisa with a mustache. He certainly didn't present an untouched Monet as his own.
Bill Dada said:Found Poem #X
Not to be
As soon as I figure out how, Found Poem #4 will cease to exist. All of you who responded, thank you.
WickedEve said:I think I plagiarized. I took some words out of my divorce papers and used them in my Final Decree of Divorce poem. I'm a dirty, bad girl.
Liar said:Humble thanks and appropriate bribes slid under appropriate tables to Tess who mentioned my Final Renovation and all the numerous comments I've recieved.
I'm surprised over the strong reception, from poets and poetry buffs I have lots of respect for. I guess that proves, at least to me, that there is no dichotomy between song lyrics and poetry.
My Erotic Tale said:well aint that a bundle of bull shit!!!
I didn't know Shakespeare had a shot gun or a pistol~
what happen to the concept that all poems are rewrites of what has already been said or is that just for certain people or certain poems? I for one liked the poem and commented so!
Resubmit it, but just put: "DELETE" next to the title. In the body where you'd normally put the poem, say that you'd like it to be deleted. No explanations are necessary and it usually takes 3 to 5 days for the poem to be removed off Literotica.Bill Dada said:So does anyone out there know how one could go about removing a poem.
ty,bd
neonurotic said:Resubmit it, but just put: "DELETE" next to the title. In the body where you'd normally put the poem, say that you'd like it to be deleted. No explanations are necessary and it usually takes 3 to 5 days for the poem to be removed off Literotica.
Bill Dada said:Art thanks for your support. I don't think that Shakespeare had a shotgun or a pistol, however the Found Poem Police are armed and on the job. They are the cover story in the Litigious Times. My found poem rules are a sideways plagiarism from "Fight Club" which is plagiarism of Aleister Crowley who would never steal. Of course dada was all about the rules, as far as dada was concerned there could never be enough rules.
So does anyone out there know how one could go about removing a poem.
ty,bd
Naah. I like it down here.Tristesse said:You can come out from under the table now.
Angeline said:I have always understood plagiarism to be using material someone else wrote without giving them credit either by quoting directly or by closely paraphrasing their words. I have always understood found poetry to be a poem remade into something new using words from someone else's source material. I have not typically seen found poems made from other poems although one could argue that certain forms--like the glosa for example, which builds a new poem around lines from one already written--sort of are found poetry. Note that in the glosa, the quoted material that forms the basis for the new poem is always credited to the original author.
I don't think there are rules insofar as using the words in a poem--or any piece of literature--to create a new poem, a found poem, BUT if you simply paraphrase you have, at least to me, done nothing more than steal someone else's words. Furthermore if you researched plagiarism, I think you'd find my interpretation is pretty standard.
I'd be interested in your source and whether whoever it is has anything to say about plagiarism. One needs to be careful about these things. Plagiarism is considered actionable and we live in litigious times.
Bill Dada said:So does anyone out there know how one could go about removing a poem.
ty,bd
So I've been told... sadly, I've grown into the habit of saying what I need to say the way I need to say it. So I guess you could say the problem is not what's said, but what is heard.champagne1982 said:That said, I'll watch and maybe you'll realize, that in this case, it's not what you say, but how you say it.
You, too, have a nice day.
DJHyrrikhayne said:So I've been told... sadly, I've grown into the habit of saying what I need to say the way I need to say it. So I guess you could say the problem is not what's said, but what is heard.