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To the Karen Kraft Truther-Trolls Club & Alt-Army:

December said:
Chick, it's useless trying to argue with people like Nipples. He'll never be growed up enough to treat you civilly and he will only delight in any misery he may cause you along the way.
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that..and he is now banned from the zoo so he isn't getting any
 
GracefullyYours said:
If he was souring my day - if any of them were - I'd have been gone long ago
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So you're trying to make him angry, to get back at him for trying to make you angry? This makes perfect sense. I'm totally sure of all the people who try and do the very same thing with these trolls that you will be the one to get through and teach him a lesson.

*shrug*

Edit: If you're purposely trying to push his buttons and make him angry, and he is doing the same, what is the difference between you now?
 
December said:
So you're trying to make him angry, to get back at him for trying to make you angry? This makes perfect sense. I'm totally sure of all the people who try and do the very same thing with these trolls that you will be the one to get through and teach him a lesson.

*shrug*

Edit: If you're purposely trying to push his buttons and make him angry, and he is doing the same, what is the difference between you now?
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My initial impression...is that you overthink things.
 
Karen Kraft said:
To the Karen Kraft Truther-Trolls Club & Alt-Army:

First things first – I want to thank you for all the vanity threads. It’s been entertaining.

Usually, complex and implausible conspiracy theories emanate from those on the political far right: 911 Truthers, the ChemTrail folks, Area 51, Roselyn, New Mexico Aliens, NASA never went to the moon folks, and so on. But once in a while, something similar erupts from the left. That’s what we find with the rather bizarre conspiracy theory we call the Karen Kraft Truthers. My first impulse was to ignore the array of vanity threads, but friends have asked me not to remain silent, but to address the situation.

A poster here who, it turns out, has been irritated about the way I used to make fun of overweight women, spent many of the last ten years referring to me using the masculine pronoun and stomping her virtual foot with that same repetitive taunt. From time to time, when she would forward her nonsense, I would respond by creating or bumping an “Obama’s not an American” thread, thus drawing a parallel between “Karen’s not a woman” and “Obama’s not an American.” Childish? Yeah. But it is what it is.

So anyway, eventually either this poster stopped or I put her on Iggy; I’m not really sure which, and it doesn’t matter. As some of you may know, I often reduce my Iggy list at Christmas, and this year was no exception. In any event, this poster, who also posts under a different screen name, followed my Amazon.com and Smashwords.com links and found my writing presence outside Literotica. This was not all that hard, of course, since I had the Smashwords links in my sig line since July or August last year. Clicking on those links revealed the fact that one of the books on which I received credit, there were several other names. One of the names was an older guy. The poster the seized on the idea that perhaps the person posting here and the older guy were the very same person! Wow! There was no evidence of that, but the announcement was made that it was true, since that person and I both work in the same tomato garden, etc. That sort of thing sort of falls in line with the notion that, since Bush was unpopular before 911 and was very popular after 911, he must have somehow been involved in 911… etc.

As the identities of people outside Literotica is nobody’s business, it was unfortunate, based on that erroneous assumption, to have bolted forward, building on that base of misinformation, to create the seething monster the Truther-Troll army created, as Karen Kraft. Seamlessly, those with whom I have argued in the past signed on and chimed in, as is expected here. That seems to be normal for the place, and I suppose it’s like most other discussion boards where sides are drawn.

Then, the poster, using an email account associated with another name here, sent an email to my Dad’s wife (not my mother), as will be discussed below. The email was given to me. Essentially, it took great issue with my being mean to fat women, my being a racist and a pedophile, etc., the usual Literotica snarking many of us, including myself, have done here. The difference, of course, was that the poster had gone outside the confines of our own Literotica primordial pond and into real life. The justification for that breach was simple: Karen Kraft had done the same thing, so it was fair to do it as well! There are some problems with that, as will be discussed below:

The first issue is easy: “Who is the older guy?” Years before I came to Literotica, my father had passed from the scene (not dead, but not involved anymore). The older guy is the guy I always refer to as “my Dad” whenever I am discussing the tomato cultivation projects and here and there other places in my posts. No, his is not my biological father, but I see him as my Dad. When I first began posting here, he started to do so as well, but quickly found it to be a waste of time for him and quit posting some time ago. He did not give up his business to spend his days and nights posting on Literotica.

The next issue is also fairly simple: “What’s the deal with the tomato seeds?” As has been often discussed, my Dad and I have developed some tomato plants that produce a lot of large and good tasting tomatoes. He does the selecting and propagating; I do the caring and weeding, etc. Several years ago, I offered to provide free tomato seeds from our crop, as the same seeds are not available at the hardware store or nursery. Of course, to the Truthers, that meant that what was really happening was that the perv was sending out pedophilia-laced tomato seeds to get addresses of unsuspecting people – so he could go there and eat their kids or some such thing, etc. No, it’s just me sending out seeds to anybody who sent me a Self Addressed Stamped Envelope (SASE). None of the people who, over the years, have received free tomato seeds have been accosted, contacted, injured, or perverted by their receipt of said seeds.

“Well, what about those recordings of some strange person, clearly not the older guy, reading my writing and appearing in my videos?” To the Truthers, the answer is simple: “It’s a professional actress, hired by the older guy to play the role of Karen Kraft,” in order to pursue his perverted tomato seed stalking and evil ends. This is the point at which all but the truly dedicated Truther-Troll Club members cancel their membership to the obviously silly and contrived conspiracy theory. No, folks, it’s me on the recordings and me on the videos. My Dad has not kept an actress on a ten-year retainer.

“But what about all those pictures of that other poster’s kids Karen Kraft posted on here? What about that?!” It never happened. That other poster and I have been ribbing each other in subtle and not so subtle ways for years on here. Both he and I have acted childishly, but neither of us has posted pictures of anybody’s family members on here. He, however, claims that I have done this. It is not true. What is true, however, is that another person, famous for creating more alternative posting identity personas or “Alts” than the remaining population of the General Board combined (an exaggeration, but you get the point), created a bunch of Alts including but not limited to “Karen-Kraft” and “Karen_Kraft” and a few others with bizarre names. Then, these Alts began communicating back and forth, “admitting” the posting of kids’ pictures, etc. The other poster continues to claim that I am the person who created the offending Alts, but the evidence is to the contrary. For the record: I have never, ever, posted a picture of anybody’s family members here on Literotica. Not once, not ever. Of course, the same cannot be said about the person who posted pictures of my Dad and his family. Again, that was not done by the guy with whom I have been trading childish shots for years, but by a different person entirely.

“But you and the poster with the allegedly offended son say extremely vile things to each other, including references to my sister, my breasts, his son, and so on! What’s up with that?” Again, he tells me I should cut off my boobs to avoid the allegedly non-existent cancer my allegedly non-existent sister had, and I tell him to go have sex with his non-existent son.

“Wait! ‘Non-existent son’? What if he actually has a son? What then?” When he invented the theory that I had posted pictures of his son, who remained unnamed, of course, and only had conjecture and guesswork to support that theory, I "invented" the son he never had, and named him using diminutive of the poster’s screen name here. This invented, fictional son, is the one I rib him about when he ribs me about my sister and my boobs. No real son, no postings of family pictures. All that said, to his credit, said poster has not, to my knowledge, ever posted any pictures of my family, although we both know each other’s real life identities, as I said above. Just want to be clear about that. While he enjoys my being roasted currently, to my knowledge he has never gone outside the Literotica rules.

The Truther-Leader, however, who sent the hate mail to my Dad’s wife, mentioned my teasing of fat women (failing to note that that was almost ten years ago – seems s/he holds a grudge). To demonstrate my taunting ways, s/he sent a link to the Slender Angels thread. The comment was made that I posted pictures of naked underage kids. Now, there are more than 200,000 views of the Slender Angels thread, and the monitors and moderators here keep an eye out for child pornography, not only in the graphic postings, but in the text / story postings as well. It is strictly against the rules to engage in any of that and, were there any kiddie porn pictures posted by anybody here, they would be removed by the management upon notification of the violation. Indeed, when I have posted a picture of a young slender model in the thread, I also put in a link to the 18 U.S.C. §2257 Records Keeping Requirements Compliance Statement. Remember, this is a porn site, and non-child porn is part of what one finds here. Not only was it my intention to honor and extol the virtues of being slender and fit, my creating the Slender Angels thread was an answer to the chiding I received when people were posting that I was bulimic, anorexic, and so on. Also, the General Board is not limited to political discussion. It may include picture threads, joke threads, gardening and cooking threads, etc. In addition to posting on political subjects, I post in and have created threads in those other areas as well. If ever there were a question regarding the age of a model, I would refer the inquiry to the 2257 statement holder. As all of the pictures are of adult models, it says much about the Truther-Trollers’ capacity for rational thought to be outraged to find nudity at a porn site. To them, this place is strictly about trolling, snarking, and hatred.

I’ve been here almost ten years now, having begun posting just a couple months after my 18th birthday. I’ve made my share of friends and enemies, which is not surprising, considering my stir-the-fat-in-the-fire political posting style. I tried to deal with the Truther-Leader earlier in the week, and even apologized for saying “fuck you” in a couple of private messages. But it never was really about “the truth.” It was about “getting even” for being called fat many years ago and for what the Truther-Leader sees as obesity-taunting with the Slender Angels thread.

In summary, I’m not expecting the Karen Kraft Truther-Trolls Club & Alt-Army to stop their trolling – at least not in an election year. They are free to call me “Kevin” or “Ken” or “Skylar” and so on, if that’s what gets them through the day. But having spent much of the decade showing, time and time again, exactly who I am… more than anybody else here, so I’m finished with that. Indeed, one of the people who has become hysterical recently over this topic is someone I actually named in my video. So, this is my last statement on the subject of identity. I will put the members of the Truther-Trolls Club & Alt-Army on Iggy and, as is my style, I will note, from time to time, after their troll-posting, that their trolling comment, whatever it was, has been Ignored.

Lastly, “Why are there no names in this statement?” I have decided not to name people described in this statement, either by their real life names or by their screen/member names here. Please remember that this is a place for us to enjoy reading and posting. There’s no point in extending and exacerbating a situation that has already consumed much too much of the General Board and has spilled from the confines of Literotica to touch people, family members, and others, who are not associated with this web site.

Just to test whether the transformation from rational poster to mindless troll is complete, I posted a simple comment in a Tim Tebow thread. Yup! The transformation is complete. The Truther-Trolls Club & Alt-Army members have now been reduced to common trolls. To verify this, check out the comments that will no doubt follow this post.
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Unibomber, is that you?
 
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