Trump: Candidates have the right to interfere with elections

[AlexBailey]

In the real world it's INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty.

Or do you just not understand that your hate filled fantasy world isn't real?

Sorry bud. Someone can factually commit crimes and be factually guilty of a crime before they are legally convicted of it.

Trump admitted to it. The glacial speed of the legal system doesn’t counter that fact.

 

[UltraChad]

Sorry bud. Someone can factually commit crimes and factually guilty of a crime before they are legally convicted of it.

Trump admitted to it. The glacial speed of the legal system doesn’t counter that fact.

Yes but what you think/feel and what the legal reality are two different things.

Your side lost, now you're just trying to

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We learned from the progressive left!!!

 

[UltraChad]

Sorry bud. Someone can factually commit crimes and factually guilty of a crime before they are legally convicted of it.

Trump admitted to it. The glacial speed of the legal system doesn’t counter that fact.

But without legal conviction the guilt doesn't mean much.

Trump can say whatever, triggering the leftist lawfare machine just shows everyone who the real threat to democracy is.

 

[ll74]

Your ignorance and political bias still don't mean it never happened.

I didn't claim things happened. If you can't back it up with evidence, nobody has any reason to believe you.

It is a strong indicator of how biased your information feed is though. "Progressive" approved and sanitized sources only....I'd bet money on it.

It is a strong indicator that you can't back up what you claim. Bet all your money on anything you want
..if you don't have evidence and sources for your claims, no amount of betting org is going to reward you with anything

 

[AlexBailey]

But without legal conviction the guilt doesn't mean much.

Trump can say whatever, triggering the leftist lawfare machine just shows everyone who the real threat to democracy is.

If Trump doesn’t win the election and use executive powers to pardon himself there is a very real chance he will have to defend himself in court of law against a bevy of indictments.

These indictments were brought because grand juries saw enough “there” there to warrant prosecution.

The cases aren’t over yet - just as you might claim Trump is innocent because he hasn’t been convicted, the prosecution has not closed the case yet.

 

[UltraChad]

I didn't claim things happened. If you can't back it up with evidence, nobody has any reason to believe you.


It is a strong indicator that you can't back up what you claim. Bet all your money on anything you want
..if you don't have evidence and sources for your claims, no amount of betting org is going to reward you with anything

I don't care if you don't know what's going on and want to keep your head where it's warm and smelly you go right ahed.

Your ignorance isn't an indicator of anything about me.

 

[UltraChad]

If Trump doesn’t win the election and use executive powers to pardon himself there is a very real chance he will have to defend himself in court of law against a bevy of indictments.

These indictments were brought because grand juries saw enough “there” there to warrant prosecution.

The cases aren’t over yet - just as you might claim Trump is innocent because he hasn’t been convicted, the prosecution has not closed the case yet.

Nope, if he loses the left tries to forget about him ASAP, they're just doing this to try and subvert democracy.

I'm not claiming he's anything, I'm claiming these charges are a political hit job and have nothing to do with crimes or justice. They are about trying to trash his run for the WH. IF he wasn't running they wouldn't be bothering with any of it, they would be doing it to whatever NOT Kamala candidate was running. Wouldn't want the people to decide......better to just jail the opposition!!! lol

 

[ll74]

I don't care if you don't know what's going on and want to keep your head where it's warm and smelly you go right ahed.

So you're full of shit.

Thanks for confirming.

Your ignorance isn't an indicator of anything about me.

I back up my claims with context and sources. People can decide for themselves whether they agree with my conclusions

 

[Lazaran]

You can get a guilty plea out of anyone for anything you want, all that means is the government put the screws to them and scared them into confessing.

No the FBI plots to kidnap a state governor to lure a microscopic number of right wing nuts into the conspiracy so they can make a big deal about how horrible and scary anyone who's not worshiping whatever installed puppet the Democrats have told them to. Worked wonders on all the little collectivist ants...they get right in line and vote for a literal communist if told to, because she's a woman of color!! TOP qualifications for a Democrat!!

https://www.freep.com/story/news/lo...r-kidnap-plot-build-their-careers/7249153001/





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[dmallord]

Yeah, typical Libspeak.

Trump says didn't do anything illegal yet he was indicted for it. He also says his poll numbers went UP because the people understand the indictment isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

YOU, on the other hand, believed he was guilty of a crime even before the indictment happened. So you use that angle in your comments regarding Trump's statement of innocence.

He NEVER SAID he has a right to "interfere" in the election. HE SAID that he didn't do anything wrong because he has "every right" to do what he did.

There is a world of difference between those 2 things yet you believe the dumbest version.

Trump says a lot of things he did is not illegal, yet he was convicted of them or is still pending trial for many of those. Who knew that you couldn't invent a fake slate of electors and try to feed those phony certificates to Congress? Hell, Trump barely knows what the process is, so he sure as hell didn't know it was illegal. It's not like he bribed a porn star or anything like that, or paid 78.3 million dollars in liable charges to another woman where he was charged with rape and was found guilty of a less charge. By the way, it's not a crime to send a mob to overthrow the government if you change your mind and don't go to the Capitol with them as Trump promised. [Just another few words from his lips that you can twist to say he didn't really mean it, Arphy.]

Adrina's post is the words Trump uttered in his rambling, halting style. They come directly from his lips. You interpret them based on his past statements, rather than taking them at face value like others do. It's possible that what he said was true on the face of it, but you don't consider that and instead twist his words to fit your own viewpoint.

Which is easier to believe: a direct quote from his lips or a convoluted interpretation by Arphy on what he thinks Trump should have said to cover his posterior?

Which of the two is the dumbest version? Well, I would go with Arphy's version. The other one is supported by the fact he was convicted of 34 felony fraud accounts for now. That one seems more reasonable and more accurate as it equates to his attempted coverup. After all, a jury said that he committed the coverup payments in order to interfere with an election. A jury found him guilty of 34 felony fraud charges, which was supported by his own hand-signed checks. Pretty convincing to the public at large, I'd say. But then a Harphylike lawyer might try and loosen the noose around his neck and wiggle him out of the charges because we all know–Trump is a great guy and as innocent as the driven snow.

 

[dmallord]

In the real world it's INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty.

Or do you just not understand that your hate filled fantasy world isn't real?

Where you asleep at the bench like Trump? The verdict was read and the jury confirmed he was PROVEN guilty in the REAL WORLD.

Where the hell did you go–on some fantasy vacation and you missed the end of the trial!

Guilty on 34 counts. All of them. Now it is a question of appeals. Even under an appeal, he is still considered a felon. You know that as a lawyer.

 

[dmallord]

If the President believes an election has been interfered with, not only should he be inclined to investigate and take steps to correct any problems, it would be his duty as President to do so.

Of course he should ask Congress to investigate. Unless he intends to alter the investigation or overthrow the government, in which case he should also be held accountable for interference. It would be Congress' duty to pursue the matter.

 

[dmallord]

If the President needs 11,780 votes to win, they should demand those votes from the Secretary of State on a phone call

Just like any reasonable wannabe dictator would do, give the state a chance to find the votes and fix it, or if not, then tell him what he did in his state is a violation, a criminal act, and he could go to jail for it!

[Will all the illegals jumping the border couldn't Trump just grant emergency citizenship and get them to vote for him next time? Asking for a friend.]

 

[adrina]

Yes, they did. No lies have been told. Personal attacks don't make the facts go away, they just make you look weird and unserious.

No they didn't.

That you even think so makes your opinion laughable.

 

[adrina]

We learned from the progressive left!!!

No you didn't. You learned from Gingrich. He had his own agenda based around party power consolidation.

Again with this stupid propaganda.

 

[LittleTitLover]

Trump is a draft dodging cunt. Anyone who can't see past this idiot's lies is a fuckin idiot.

 

[AlexBailey]

Nope, if he loses the left tries to forget about him ASAP, they're just doing this to try and subvert democracy.

I'm not claiming he's anything, I'm claiming these charges are a political hit job and have nothing to do with crimes or justice. They are about trying to trash his run for the WH. IF he wasn't running they wouldn't be bothering with any of it, they would be doing it to whatever NOT Kamala candidate was running. Wouldn't want the people to decide......better to just jail the opposition!!! lol

Keep owning that one.

 

[dkovic77]

Which lit poster is Joey? My money is on Traitor Tater… but could be wrong guide too (he is desperate for “friends”)

 

[MarcvsAvrelivs]

adrine: Liberals have the right to redefine words.

today's word: interference

 

[dkovic77]

Patriots. Look, redefinition is fun.

 

[UltraChad]

So you're full of shit.

Thanks for confirming.

I back up my claims with context and sources. People can decide for themselves whether they agree with my conclusions

Your ignorance doesn't make me full of shit. Try consuming something outside the leftist media sphere sometime.

Yes, we all know you can regurgitate Salon/MSNBC/CNN propaganda, good boy.

 

[UltraChad]

Keep owning that one.

It is what it is.

Just like caring about issues in the black community and working class.

How much have black lives mattered since 2020?? YEAAA!!!! How's Bidenomics working for the non-billionaires? OHHH YEAA!!! LOL!!!

Thing is, those groups are starting to see that for what it is. Every 4 years it's the same ol' sales job..... they LOVE all their little pet demographics and dangle the same ol' carrots and pull out all the same old fear mongering. Which all stops right after the election when they're busy filing their pockets....until the next cycle. Then suddenly all their pet demographics/issues will be super important again....and idiots will actually believe them.

 

[ll74]

Your ignorance doesn't make me full of shit. Try consuming something outside the leftist media sphere sometime.

I've asked you multiple times for sources. I assume you utilize sources "outside the leftist media sphere".

You made a claim and refuse to back it up.

Keep trying to make that about me

Yes, we all know you can regurgitate Salon/MSNBC/CNN propaganda, good boy.

The sources I provide are rarely any of those. I don't provide them for my own benefit.....I corroborate with multiple unrelated sites.

But keep making your inabilities my fault

 

[Bray123]

Damn, looks like we all need to educate ourselves by reading truthsocial and gatewaypundit.

 

[UltraChad]

No you didn't. You learned from Gingrich. He had his own agenda based around party power consolidation.

Again with this stupid propaganda.

Yes, we did. Gingrich LOL ?? Has nothing to do with worming about who said what and what it actually means and redefining terms to suit your narratives ...nice random outburst though.

It's not propaganda just because you don't understand it.

No they didn't.

That you even think so makes your opinion laughable

Yes, they did. That you are so ignorant you think they didn't makes yours laughable. Persist in your ignorance like that other dude IL74, another "If MSNBC or Salon didn't report it, it NEVER HAPPENED!!" type who has no clue what's been going on for the last 5 years.