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[Pauljiggs]

No need to rephrase. Did Trump have her consent to assault her?

The real question is “Did Trump assault her?”

 

[kathyisgr65]

Ok, so you think that any medical operations are now the business of the government. So why the sexism? Why are men allowed to have operations to make them sterile but women can’t have a similar operation?

Actually here in ks..after a woman has idk if it's 3-5 kids that they can't take care of the state pays for a hysterectomy...but guys can "father" 10+ kids w no repercussions except pay child support if they can be found..ok iff topic I know

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

The real question is “Did Trump assault her?”

A court has said he did and Trump has said he grabs women by the pussy.

 

[ll74]

The real question is “Did Trump assault her?”

He did

 

[IrezumiKiss]

I haven't seen this much desperate bullshit from one poster on the PB in awhile.

The amount of effort is pretty remarkable, in a freakshow kind of way.

We'll see more of this as Trump falls further out of favor, and his flock tries in vain to re-invent themselves.

I was just a teeeensy-weeensy bit surprised that someone threw out the lyrics of a handful of Black American hip-hop artists as a moral barometer deflection from the deliberate vulgarity and open venality of Cheeto's own words.

just a little bit, mind you. The Right can't be who they are if there's no flimsy strawmen or imaginary boogeymen to point towards, after all.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

I am forever at a loss to watch people argue with left wing wackos displaying TDS.

I don't see a whole lot of arguing coming from the RWCJ crowd. I see a ton of misogyny, racism, sexism, fear, and lack of knowledge.

They will never give up the lies they rely on to bash all things right.
They will never acknowledge that their heroes have no better morals.
They will always misquote, remove context, and ignore moral equivalence.
Arguing with them is like arguing with a 9 year old.
A waste of time.
Making points they simply will refuse to acknowledge.
And call you names when they have no where left to go.
And anybody claiming the moral high ground while supporting a liar that was thrown out of an election for lying. For refusing to admit abortion is killing a living human being. Claiming men can become women and women can become men. Has no high ground to stand upon.
Simple claim “I support a liar, I know abortion is killing a human and I don’t care, I know they are not men or women, but I can pretend if I want too.”
Then you have some high ground to stand on.

Just as you have proved above with your words. There are no salient points, no base of factual knowledge, just inccesant whining.

I'll tell you what, you're so worried about abortion, go get a vasectomy, in fact make sure every male in your entire family gets one. Their friends too, and their friends....then once all RWCJ males have had a vasectomy, you won't have an abortion problem...because the rest of us are adults and can handle adult situations....

 

[JaySecrets]

It would only be like that if a court determined that the man beat his wife. Good try. Neither you or him will ever answer the question.

And for the record, most of America is getting sick of liberal elitists, no matter the title or degree they hold. We are tired of so-called experts telling us what is in front of our eyes isn't what are really seeing. We are tired of your kind thinking you know what is best

California health

I have consistently told you directly that I support your right to lobby for your preferred abortion policy.

You have called me names and redefined words and refused to do the same.

You have no high ground here.

You support murdering babies. Of course I have the moral high ground on that!

 

[TastySuckToy]

The real question is “Did Trump assault her?”

And to that question, we need to examine the evidence.

And so far, the available evidence strongly points to "No". That's why posters here appeal to what the court ruled rather than what the actual evidence is, if they are even familiar with it in the first place.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

And for the record, most of America is getting sick of liberal elitists, no matter the title or degree they hold. We are tired of so-called experts telling us what is in front of our eyes isn't what are really seeing. We are tired of your kind thinking you know what is best

You support murdering babies. Of course I have the moral high ground on that!

So no answer to the question yet….

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

And to that question, we need to examine the evidence.

And so far, the available evidence strongly points to "No". That's why posters here appeal to what the court ruled rather than what the actual evidence is, if they are even familiar with it in the first place.

And again, you invent a straw man and discuss that.

 

[butters]

A court has said he did and Trump has said he grabs women by the pussy.

and we just might be seeing defamation court case no.3

Trump on Monday posted a lengthy attack labeled as a Memorial Day post.

"Happy Memorial Day to All, including the Human Scum that is working so hard to destroy our Once Great Country, & to the Radical Left, Trump Hating Federal Judge in New York that presided over, get this, TWO separate trials, that awarded a woman, who I never met before (a quick handshake at a celebrity event, 25 years ago, doesn't count!), 91 MILLION DOLLARS for 'DEFAMATION,'" he wrote, referring to Carroll's cases.

"After Trump, who arrived in NY last night, attacked E Jean Carroll again on Truth Social today, her lawyer Roberta Kaplan says, 'We have said several times since the last jury verdict in January that all options were on the table. And that remains true today -- all options are on the table," Haberman reported on Monday.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-carroll-new-lawsuit-memorial-day/

question: if he just keeps ignoring the defamation rules, is there a point when fines are abandoned and jail time is an option? since it's a civil matter (oh, the irony of using the word 'civil' when it comes to trump), i'm thinking no?

 

[Pauljiggs]

A court has said he did and Trump has said he grabs women by the pussy.

No Trump said women will let you grab them by the pussy.
Big difference.
The courts said he assaulted her.
That’s not the question I asked.
I ask DID he assault her.
Not was he accused of assaulting her.
Did he do what he was accused of doing.
We have reverted back to Speaker of the HouseTom Foley had said, “The seriousness of the charge mandates that we investigate this. Even though there is no evidence,” he said, “the seriousness of the charge is what matters,”

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

No Trump said women will let you grab them by the pussy.
Big difference.
The courts said he assaulted her.
That’s not the question I asked.
I ask DID he assault her.
Not was he accused of assaulting her.
Did he do what he was accused of doing.
We have reverted back to Speaker of the HouseTom Foley had said, “The seriousness of the charge mandates that we investigate this. Even though there is no evidence,” he said, “the seriousness of the charge is what matters,”

And I answered.
Trump never said he had anyone’s consent to grab them.

 

[Pauljiggs]

And I answered.
Trump never said he had anyone’s consent to grab them.

Did he say he didn’t?

 

[JaySecrets]

For the record, most of America is getting sick of your liberal elitists, no matter the title or degree they hold. We are tired of so-called experts telling us what is in front of our eyes isn't what are really seeing. We are tired of your kind thinking you know what is best for a pre-born baby and whether it should live or die. We are tired of your pretend world that says the ultrasounds aren't really showing what they obviously and beautifully show, a tiny baby in the womb. We are tired of your lying leaders, your brainwashing teachers, your bullying professors, and your propaganda centers that you mislabel "schools". We are tired of your propaganda machines in the media. We are tired of your Marxist and Fascist control of what content people access on search engines and the disclaimers inserted by so-called neutral platforms if some of that content slips through. We are tired of your destruction of this country one lie at a time. And so we sometimes push back, and hard. Problem is that whilst we are working and caring for our families, you are living on the government dole and killing your babies. You have more time to push your lies. But we are waking up to your bs. That's why you are losing people. We are not a nation of victims and intersectional groups. We are individuals created uniquely and specially by God for a specific purpose. And so are you. We just embrace that liberty, while you choose to live in slavery. You are welcome to join us and know a liberty and freedom, not dependant on governments but given by God, any time you like.

 

[RoryN]

Did he say he didn’t?

^^^^
Setting up a circular bullshit argument.

Deplorable being deplorable.

 

[butters]

No Trump said women will let you grab them by the pussy.
Big difference.
The courts said he assaulted her.
That’s not the question I asked.
I ask DID he assault her.
Not was he accused of assaulting her.
Did he do what he was accused of doing.
We have reverted back to Speaker of the HouseTom Foley had said, “The seriousness of the charge mandates that we investigate this. Even though there is no evidence,” he said, “the seriousness of the charge is what matters,”

let me take a second and explain something to you, from a woman's perspective:

there are women who will freeze in such a situation, not react at all, purely because of the shock and surprise of a man reaching out and grabbing her genitalia without being invited to do so.

some, in fear and to avoid 'a scene' or further actions on the man's part, might smile: an age-old avoidance of violence (that might come if he's rejected or spurned) and de-escalation action on her behalf as she tries to extricate herself from the situation.

yet others might be there for whatever they can milk out of his fame by attaching themselves to his name, working to appear charmed and flattered (as he expects them to be) all while trying to get ahead financially by lucrative job opportunities they see him as a portal to.

times have changed and nowadays fewer women, especially young women (unless they fall into the latter category) will quietly go along with that sort of sexual assault but will speak out loudly and not pull punches. Older women, who received that kind of unwanted "attention" from the wealthy and famous 10, 20, 50 years ago would generally speaking tell few people if any, feeling ashamed that it happened (as if she were somehow to blame by sending 'mixed messages') and it's only many years later they now realise that their silence/smiling was a tacit form of allowing this to continue. Women had been brought up in a culture that force-fed them the idea that to receive the sexual interest of a male (especially one of 'high value') was something that should make them feel valued. Today, we are less dependent on such notions and can desire to be sexually appealing to men/people WE decide appeal to US without needing to feel sexually desirable to any one else. Thankfully, the days of 'don't make a fuss/it was nothing/so he found you so sexy/doesn't it make you feel good he did?' etc..., are falling by the wayside. Culturally, those things that were 'acceptable' back then simply aren't today.

Just because you don't believe he did what he did to E.J.Carroll doesn't mean he didn't do it—as a jury has decided.

 

[Pauljiggs]

^^^^
Setting up a circular bullshit argument.

Deplorable being deplorable.

I was simply following you.
Lead a straight line and I will follow.
Lead in a circle and I will follow.

 

[JaySecrets]

I don't see a whole lot of arguing coming from the RWCJ crowd. I see a ton of misogyny, racism, sexism, fear, and lack of knowledge.

Just as you have proved above with your words. There are no salient points, no base of factual knowledge, just inccesant whining.

I'll tell you what, you're so worried about abortion, go get a vasectomy, in fact make sure every male in your entire family gets one. Their friends too, and their friends....then once all RWCJ males have had a vasectomy, you won't have an abortion problem...because the rest of us are adults and can handle adult situations....

Generally, our people aren't going out, boinking like rabbits, then using abortion as birth control.
Nor are we raping or commiting incest. We are living lives accountable to a moral standard, and when or if we do get a woman pregnant out of wedlock, we seek to be there for our children. We don't murder babies in the womb. That's your gig. So your whole argument there is moot. Your side, not mine, is murdering babies as a form of "birth control". It's your side who can't control your hormone-driven lusts enough to keep it in your pants, and your side CREATES those "adult situations" (that any hormone-driven teen can create, so adult...?) and then takes the easy way out: erase the "problem". But that isn't adult thinking at all is it? It's just justifying immaturity.

 

[TastySuckToy]

Just because you don't believe he did what he did to E.J.Carroll doesn't mean he didn't do it—as a jury has decided.

Just because you or anyone else believes he did it doesn't mean he did.

 

[RoryN]

I was simply following you.

A Deplorable, stalking me?

How original! Take a #.

 

[JaySecrets]

let me take a second and explain something to you, from a woman's perspective:

there are women who will freeze in such a situation, not react at all, purely because of the shock and surprise of a man reaching out and grabbing her genitalia without being invited to do so.

some, in fear and to avoid 'a scene' or further actions on the man's part, might smile: an age-old avoidance of violence (that might come if he's rejected or spurned) and de-escalation action on her behalf as she tries to extricate herself from the situation.

yet others might be there for whatever they can milk out of his fame by attaching themselves to his name, working to appear charmed and flattered (as he expects them to be) all while trying to get ahead financially by lucrative job opportunities they see him as a portal to.

times have changed and nowadays fewer women, especially young women (unless they fall into the latter category) will quietly go along with that sort of sexual assault but will speak out loudly and not pull punches. Older women, who received that kind of unwanted "attention" from the wealthy and famous 10, 20, 50 years ago would generally speaking tell few people if any, feeling ashamed that it happened (as if she were somehow to blame by sending 'mixed messages') and it's only many years later they now realise that their silence/smiling was a tacit form of allowing this to continue. Women had been brought up in a culture that force-fed them the idea that to receive the sexual interest of a male (especially one of 'high value') was something that should make them feel valued. Today, we are less dependent on such notions and can desire to be sexually appealing to men/people WE decide appeal to US without needing to feel sexually desirable to any one else. Thankfully, the days of 'don't make a fuss/it was nothing/so he found you so sexy/doesn't it make you feel good he did?' etc..., are falling by the wayside. Culturally, those things that were 'acceptable' back then simply aren't today.

Just because you don't believe he did what he did to E.J.Carroll doesn't mean he didn't do it—as a jury has decided.

A jury decided OJ was innocent too. And a jury found the guy who shot Trayvon Martin not guilty. And a jury found many guilty of sexual assault, only to find, thanks to the Innocence Project, they were nowhere near the assaults. Are you saying the jury always gets it right and is totally unbiased? If so....

 

[JaySecrets]

let me take a second and explain something to you, from a woman's perspective:

there are women who will freeze in such a situation, not react at all, purely because of the shock and surprise of a man reaching out and grabbing her genitalia without being invited to do so.

some, in fear and to avoid 'a scene' or further actions on the man's part, might smile: an age-old avoidance of violence (that might come if he's rejected or spurned) and de-escalation action on her behalf as she tries to extricate herself from the situation.

yet others might be there for whatever they can milk out of his fame by attaching themselves to his name, working to appear charmed and flattered (as he expects them to be) all while trying to get ahead financially by lucrative job opportunities they see him as a portal to.

times have changed and nowadays fewer women, especially young women (unless they fall into the latter category) will quietly go along with that sort of sexual assault but will speak out loudly and not pull punches. Older women, who received that kind of unwanted "attention" from the wealthy and famous 10, 20, 50 years ago would generally speaking tell few people if any, feeling ashamed that it happened (as if she were somehow to blame by sending 'mixed messages') and it's only many years later they now realise that their silence/smiling was a tacit form of allowing this to continue. Women had been brought up in a culture that force-fed them the idea that to receive the sexual interest of a male (especially one of 'high value') was something that should make them feel valued. Today, we are less dependent on such notions and can desire to be sexually appealing to men/people WE decide appeal to US without needing to feel sexually desirable to any one else. Thankfully, the days of 'don't make a fuss/it was nothing/so he found you so sexy/doesn't it make you feel good he did?' etc..., are falling by the wayside. Culturally, those things that were 'acceptable' back then simply aren't today.

Just because you don't believe he did what he did to E.J.Carroll doesn't mean he didn't do it—as a jury has decided.

And aren't you the same one railing against juries that find cops not guilty?

 

[TastySuckToy]

A jury decided OJ was innocent too. And a jury found the guy who shot Trayvon Martin not guilty. And a jury found many guilty of sexual assault, only to find, thanks to the Innocence Project, they were nowhere near the assaults. Are you saying the jury always gets it right and is totally unbiased? If so....

Remember, courts, judges and juries couldn't possibly be biased or wrong, so long as it's Trump on trial and a guilty verdict.

 

[butters]

A jury decided OJ was innocent too. And a jury found the guy who shot Trayvon Martin not guilty. And a jury found many guilty of sexual assault, only to find, thanks to the Innocence Project, they were nowhere near the assaults. Are you saying the jury always gets it right and is totally unbiased? If so....

i'll engage this once:

of course not. don't be stupid.
there are rights to appeal and when those rights are exhausted, the rule of law has to be accepted, whether you agree with it or not. If you don't agree, if you believe 'the law is an ass', then you have the ability and privilege of petitioning to change that law.

the point is that it doesn't matter jack what you, i, or anyone else opines on given his credibility: the people that matter are the prosecution, defense, witnesses, defendant, judge and, ultimately, the jury.

that's all you get; you are not someone i feel happy conversing with and i don't own/desire to own a handmaid's bonnet.