Two! Four! Six! Eight! JaySecrets Prevaricates!

[JaySecrets]

I've been on a microphone in front of entire school bodies, pinging them on their shit. I have no issue whatsoever calling liars out to their faces.

The last one tried to take a swing at me. I dodged him and laughed until he frothed at the mouth like a chihuahua with meningitis.

I have my doubts on that one, but okay. What student bodies exactly? Because public schools and universities are generally rabidly liberal with conservative enclaves within them.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

He wasn't making a threat. He was pointing out how easy it is to throw insults and purgitives on a faceless, unaccountable form, or on Ticktock or Twitter... I mean X (still hate that name for it), or Facebook, or other platforms. He's pointing out the laziness of internet courage and online virtue signaling. Few on here, probably including you, have the courage of your claimed convictions in real life.

And the fact you took an obvious point and turned it onto something lesser says more about you than it does about him

Who said anything about a threat??
You went there all on your own.

 

[butters]

Well if you are ever in Gilroy Ca look me up.
I am the only custom saddle shop in town.
I’m easy to find.
Stop by anytime.

is that your wife on the website saying it's her place? don't see any mention of you, jus' sayin'

of course, that may not be a custom saddle makers. i don't have further time right now to check

 

[Pauljiggs]

is that your wife on the website saying it's her place? don't see any mention of you, jus' sayin'

I don’t have a website.
So I have no idea what you are referring too.
Would you be willing to send me the link you are talking about?

 

[Pauljiggs]

is that your wife on the website saying it's her place? don't see any mention of you, jus' sayin'

of course, that may not be a custom saddle makers. i don't have further time right now to check

Are you referring to Saddles’s and Treasurers?
If so that is a second hand store that deals in saddlery and tack.
And I have nothing to do them other than doing repairs for them.

 

[Pauljiggs]

Who said anything about a threat??
You went there all on your own.

I believe it was JaFo who brought up the threat outlook.

 

[butters]

Are you referring to Saddles’s and Treasurers?
If so that is a second hand store that deals in saddlery and tack.
And I have nothing to do them other than doing repairs for them.

was just about to send you the link then read this. yes, though it also sells new saddles.

how do you find not having a website for your business? your trade all done via word of mouth? not saying that's not possible at all, simply unusual not to have a web presence for a bricks'n'mortar store today.

 

[ll74]

You support murdering babies. Of course I have the moral high ground on that!

Abortion doesn't involve babies.

Regardless, my support of women who aren't people is far beyond your consideration

 

[Pauljiggs]

was just about to send you the link then read this. yes, though it also sells new saddles.

how do you find not having a website for your business? your trade all done via word of mouth? not saying that's not possible at all, simply unusual not to have a web presence for a bricks'n'mortar store today.

I find it works very well.
The cow business, horses business runs pretty much on referral. If you have a good name you will have more business than you can get too.
My customer base is split 50/50 between cowboys (people actually keeping somebody else’s cows alive) and recreational horse owners.
Maybe 60/40 now recreational horse owners as ag in California is dying. But I would have to dig through my books for a true split other than going on who I see in the shop.
My work is good and if I say you pick up your saddle on Friday it’s finished and ready to pick on Friday.
About a third of my over all business is repeat customer from out of state and few from other countries. (LGD collars and LEO working dog harness)
Never needed to advertise on the internet.
When I quit cowboying to build saddles full time I brought a years worth of orders with me. And it just kept building.
And from my friends who do have an internet footprint. Always complain about the “wal-marters and yard sellers” not wanting to pay. That’s not a problem I have to deal with.
Those that can afford me pay willingly. Those who can’t afford me don’t come to the shop.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

I believe it was JaFo who brought up the threat outlook.

That doesn’t address the question i asked.

 

[Pauljiggs]

That doesn’t address the question i asked.

Was not your question
“Who said anything about a threat?”
Seems to me answering it was JaFO is a direct answer to your question.

 

[RoryN]

Well if you are ever in Gilroy Ca look me up.
I am the only custom saddle shop in town.

Sure, liar. Whatever you say, liar.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Was not your question
“Who said anything about a threat?”
Seems to me answering it was JaFO is a direct answer to your question.

No, it wasn’t. Why is it so hard to get an answer out of you?

 

[Pauljiggs]

No, it wasn’t. Why is it so hard to get an answer out of you?

I’ll just leave these right here for you read at your convenience.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

I’ll just leave these right here for you read at your convenience.

Still not the question I asked you. I’ll keep waiting.

 

[Pauljiggs]

Still not the question I asked you. I’ll keep waiting.

Let me read back and see what question you ask me.
Hang on.

 

[Pauljiggs]

Why? What could you do if he said it to your face?

Is this the question you are referring too?

 

[Philthy_Phil]

It’s there business what goes on in there state
No one else’s

Where business?

 

[Philthy_Phil]

Just so you know it’s me.

lmao, whoever that is they look like an idiot, A gay idiot.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Is this the question you are referring too?

Still haven’t answered it.

 

[Pauljiggs]

Still haven’t answered

Still haven’t answered it.

Do you really think I am going offer a threat of violence to somebody on an open form?
Are you that stupid or do you think I am?
Let’s just assume calling me a liar to my face is never free.
And the price so far has been much more than the offender was willing to pay.
Yet the cost to me has been paid willingly in time and money.

 

[JaySecrets]

I'm going to address two posts here, so forgive my not citing the quotes. You will know who I am responding to.

First, yes, I brought up the word misogyny. But I did not use it as a buzzword. I listed very specific behavior and language, and the only proper word to use to describe it was misogyny. In other words, I used the word, as properly defined in its proper context. That's how words like that should be used.

You however used the word, absent context, as a broad insult towards me in an attempt to get a reaction, either from me or from others. There was no citation of misogynistic behavior on my part. Like dropping the words fascist or racist or bigot or white supremacist or any host of other terms that get thrown around whenever someone dates disagree with a liberal, it was used in a way, not to point out an issue that needed discussed, but to shut down reasoned debate. That's the very essence of a buzzword. It's a word used to evoke the emotional response and shut down reasoned thought.


Second, the constant use of Handmaid's Tale on the left is driving me crazy. BECAUSE IT IS FICTION! It's not even good fiction. And it's not a historical fiction. It is a made up story written to further a very specific political view. (That, by the way, is usually the worst fiction to read unless you are Orwellian in your skill level. Much as I like Ayn Rand, her fiction writing, as fiction, grates on me for the same reasons.)

When the best you have is a fictional world to cite as "what your side wants" or "what the country will look like under more Trump", all you really have is hyperbole. That's bad reasoning and horrible for discourse.

Ironically enough, the one protected religious class for your side, the Islamic world, is the closest thing in world societies to Handmaid. They actually go so far as to practice female castration. And we won't get into what the Koran says can be done to female slaves of about any age.

Meantime, the Bible tells Christian husbands to love their wives to the point of total self sacrifice. The Proverbs 31 woman puts most men today to shame in her industry, her home-based business, and her public reputation of honor, beauty, and character. Even the passage telling women to cover their hair in church comes from a context where the Roman soldiers required them to wear it uncovered so it could be viewed for mens sexual gratification. The command was given to honor women's dignity. And the early church had women listed as central, vital members who served in essential roles. In fact it was a woman who delivered the Book of Romans to Rome... The most fundamental Book of the Bible in understanding Christianity. And the church there was told to give her whatever means or help she asked as though Paul himself had requested. THAT'S high praise, trust, and dignity. Hardly a Handmaid's Tale situation.

So please, if you want the discussion to have validity, stop citing fiction books and Netflix series as proof or argument. It's just silly on its face.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Do you really think I am going offer a threat of violence to somebody on an open form?
Are you that stupid or do you think I am?
Let’s just assume calling me a liar to my face is never free.
And the price so far has been much more than the offender was willing to pay.
Yet the cost to me has been paid willingly in time and money.

You’re the one who said threat, not me. And that still doesn’t answer the question.

 

[Pauljiggs]

You’re the one who said threat, not me. And that still doesn’t answer the question.

I never said threat to anybody.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

I'm going to address two posts here, so forgive my not citing the quotes. You will know who I am responding to.

First, yes, I brought up the word misogyny. But I did not use it as a buzzword. I listed very specific behavior and language, and the only proper word to use to describe it was misogyny. In other words, I used the word, as properly defined in its proper context. That's how words like that should be used.

You however used the word, absent context, as a broad insult towards me in an attempt to get a reaction, either from me or from others. There was no citation of misogynistic behavior on my part. Like dropping the words fascist or racist or bigot or white supremacist or any host of other terms that get thrown around whenever someone dates disagree with a liberal, it was used in a way, not to point out an issue that needed discussed, but to shut down reasoned debate. That's the very essence of a buzzword. It's a word used to evoke the emotional response and shut down reasoned thought.


Second, the constant use of Handmaid's Tale on the left is driving me crazy. BECAUSE IT IS FICTION! It's not even good fiction. And it's not a historical fiction. It is a made up story written to further a very specific political view. (That, by the way, is usually the worst fiction to read unless you are Orwellian in your skill level. Much as I like Ayn Rand, her fiction writing, as fiction, grates on me for the same reasons.)

When the best you have is a fictional world to cite as "what your side wants" or "what the country will look like under more Trump", all you really have is hyperbole. That's bad reasoning and horrible for discourse.

Ironically enough, the one protected religious class for your side, the Islamic world, is the closest thing in world societies to Handmaid. They actually go so far as to practice female castration. And we won't get into what the Koran says can be done to female slaves of about any age.

Meantime, the Bible tells Christian husbands to love their wives to the point of total self sacrifice. The Proverbs 31 woman puts most men today to shame in her industry, her home-based business, and her public reputation of honor, beauty, and character. Even the passage telling women to cover their hair in church comes from a context where the Roman soldiers required them to wear it uncovered so it could be viewed for mens sexual gratification. The command was given to honor women's dignity. And the early church had women listed as central, vital members who served in essential roles. In fact it was a woman who delivered the Book of Romans to Rome... The most fundamental Book of the Bible in understanding Christianity. And the church there was told to give her whatever means or help she asked as though Paul himself had requested. THAT'S high praise, trust, and dignity. Hardly a Handmaid's Tale situation.

So please, if you want the discussion to have validity, stop citing fiction books and Netflix series as proof or argument. It's just silly on its face.

So yes, you used it first. I did not use it as an insult, I used it to accurately describe you based on what you have written, and it is accurate. You’re incredibly comfortable with men treating women as no more than objects.