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Mrtenant said:
Weird pissing contest on which gender is a worse baby or who is tougher when sick.

Perspective- having just recently had one of my oldest friends sicken and die this last summer, I don't find any of it amusing.

People get sick. Care for them. It's not funny.
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Okay, I was trying to just ignore this sub-post, but it’s just making me more upset.

First though, I will say I’m sorry for the loss of your friend. I also lost a friend who was close enough that I called her “ate” (pronounced ah-teh, older sister in Tagalog) for 20 years, to C19. She was one in a string of 11 deaths of of people I cared about in 11 months, including my brother, his wife, her brother-in-law, my aunt, my cousin, my brother-in-law’s father whom I’ve know since I was like 5, and several friends.

What you were referring to was a lighthearted conversation about “man flu,” in which men are overly dramatic when sick, and it was started by a man who admitted he’s a baby when sick, and we both specifically referred to “low-grade colds.” In no way, shape or form did I or anyone else indicate someone sick shouldn’t be cared for, whether they’re overly dramatic or not.

If you want to passive aggressively sub-post and get into it though, we can revisit the conversation from this very thread a few days ago, about how women absolutely do not receive an equal level of care, in medical settings or at home. Here in the states, medical professionals are letting miscarrying women bleed out and/or go septic and die because predominantly-male lawmakers are passing laws that make helping them an offense punishable by stripping their medical license and/or life in prison. Even before that, how women in the US have a considerably worse maternal mortality rate than other developed countries, especially for women of color. Or about how women are constantly under-treated for the same pains and symptoms as men because, and under-prescribed pain medication that could provide much-needed relief. Also, how men have a better outcome and survival rate than women because there are usually at least 1-2 women who will step up and care for them, even ex-wives, while female patients sit alone and unsupported in chemo and dialysis chairs. Or how men are six times more likely to leave their wife when she’s facing a chronic or terminal condition. This is not just a statistic for me, as I mentioned in this thread the other day, it has happened to me with two different men who thought they wanted to spend forever with me, until they faced the reality of my health issues. The last one even said mid-breakup that the day he had to call 911 and I had to go to the ER was “the beginning of the end” for him.
So yeah, I did not and would not have said or implied that anyone who is sick should not be cared for, but I stand by the fact that women absolutely do not receive the same standard or care. And next time you want to twist my words around, don’t sub-post; quote or tag me.
 
Kitty_so_frisky said:
Okay, I was trying to just ignore this sub-post, but it’s just making me more upset.

First though, I will say I’m sorry for the loss of your friend. I also lost a friend who was close enough that I called her “ate” (pronounced ah-teh, older sister in Tagalog) for 20 years, to C19. She was one in a string of 11 deaths of of people I cared about in 11 months, including my brother, his wife, her brother-in-law, my aunt, my cousin, my brother-in-law’s father whom I’ve know since I was like 5, and several friends.

What you were referring to was a lighthearted conversation about “man flu,” in which men are overly dramatic when sick, and it was started by a man who admitted he’s a baby when sick, and we both specifically referred to “low-grade colds.” In no way, shape or form did I or anyone else indicate someone sick shouldn’t be cared for, whether they’re overly dramatic or not.

If you want to passive aggressively sub-post and get into it though, we can revisit the conversation from this very thread a few days ago, about how women absolutely do not receive an equal level of care, in medical settings or at home. Here in the states, medical professionals are letting miscarrying women bleed out and/or go septic and die because predominantly-male lawmakers are passing laws that make helping them an offense punishable by stripping their medical license and/or life in prison. Even before that, how women in the US have a considerably worse maternal mortality rate than other developed countries, especially for women of color. Or about how women are constantly under-treated for the same pains and symptoms as men because, and under-prescribed pain medication that could provide much-needed relief. Also, how men have a better outcome and survival rate than women because there are usually at least 1-2 women who will step up and care for them, even ex-wives, while female patients sit alone and unsupported in chemo and dialysis chairs. Or how men are six times more likely to leave their wife when she’s facing a chronic or terminal condition. This is not just a statistic for me, as I mentioned in this thread the other day, it has happened to me with two different men who thought they wanted to spend forever with me, until they faced the reality of my health issues. The last one even said mid-breakup that the day he had to call 911 and I had to go to the ER was “the beginning of the end” for him.
So yeah, I did not and would not have said or implied that anyone who is sick should not be cared for, but I stand by the fact that women absolutely do not receive the same standard or care. And next time you want to twist my words around, don’t sub-post; quote or tag me.
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As a footnote, it might be interesting to add this link about a 2016 study about birth control for men that was stopped because men reported side effects similar to those that women endure for birth control (pimples and depression, for instance). Something to think about.
 
that there is nothing that feels as good as a new undeniable connection...mmm
 
Kitty_so_frisky said:
Yesss, the gender bias in the medical community is infuriating! Women’s concerns are not taken as seriously, especially when it comes to under-prescribing painkillers, and especially especially in cases of women of color. Women of color are also so much more likely to have negative outcomes in childbirth too. And don’t even get me started on the male birth control trials that were abandoned because men couldn’t handle a fraction of the side effects caused by women’s birth control pills!


Glad you and hubby are better now! 💗 It’s honestly wonderful that you had the option of recovering in a nursing facility, but I feel like that is something that is very rare, probably pretty expensive / not covered by insurance in most cases. Also, sufficient help is not really available for a lot of lower-grade chronic conditions and “invisible” disabilities.

It can be a lot for any one person to take on financial responsibilities and household chores and caring for themselves and other humans, whether they be children, aging parents or significant others. I think society tends to ingrain the need for us to be nurturing from the time that we’re little girls, in so many ways, from baby dolls to older sisters being expected to sacrifice their childhoods to take care of younger siblings, while way too many boys get served and coddled and grow up not knowing how to do their own laundry.

*Sigh* I think I may be ranting now, and am emotionally exhausted just thinking about all this and reliving the ways it’s taken effect. The bold part though So much that! ⬆️
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Desiree_Radcliffe said:
As a footnote, it might be interesting to add this link about a 2016 study about birth control for men that was stopped because men reported side effects similar to those that women endure for birth control (pimples and depression, for instance). Something to think about.
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Thank you! I also mentioned that in last week’s conversation here, but forgot to add it to the running list today.
 
Is there anyone else like me that has absolutely no interest in ever attending a high school reunion until you rewatch Grosse Pointe Blank for the umpteenth time and then you just get this weird urge to go? Maybe without the stab-someone-to-death-with-a-pen-through-his-neck scene. But other than that...
 
Taegul said:
Is there anyone else like me that has absolutely no interest in ever attending a high school reunion until you rewatch Grosse Pointe Blank for the umpteenth time and then you just get this weird urge to go? Maybe without the stab-someone-to-death-with-a-pen-through-his-neck scene. But other than that...
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Thinking I hope that’s not a movie worth watching, since I now know what happens lol
 
Taegul said:
Is there anyone else like me that has absolutely no interest in ever attending a high school reunion until you rewatch Grosse Pointe Blank for the umpteenth time and then you just get this weird urge to go? Maybe without the stab-someone-to-death-with-a-pen-through-his-neck scene. But other than that...
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definitely the best reunion movie i can think of...great movie in general...but no, high school reunion? im good...its been 26 years, haha
 
Kitty_so_frisky said:
Okay, I was trying to just ignore this sub-post, but it’s just making me more upset.

First though, I will say I’m sorry for the loss of your friend. I also lost a friend who was close enough that I called her “ate” (pronounced ah-teh, older sister in Tagalog) for 20 years, to C19. She was one in a string of 11 deaths of of people I cared about in 11 months, including my brother, his wife, her brother-in-law, my aunt, my cousin, my brother-in-law’s father whom I’ve know since I was like 5, and several friends.

What you were referring to was a lighthearted conversation about “man flu,” in which men are overly dramatic when sick, and it was started by a man who admitted he’s a baby when sick, and we both specifically referred to “low-grade colds.” In no way, shape or form did I or anyone else indicate someone sick shouldn’t be cared for, whether they’re overly dramatic or not.

If you want to passive aggressively sub-post and get into it though, we can revisit the conversation from this very thread a few days ago, about how women absolutely do not receive an equal level of care, in medical settings or at home. Here in the states, medical professionals are letting miscarrying women bleed out and/or go septic and die because predominantly-male lawmakers are passing laws that make helping them an offense punishable by stripping their medical license and/or life in prison. Even before that, how women in the US have a considerably worse maternal mortality rate than other developed countries, especially for women of color. Or about how women are constantly under-treated for the same pains and symptoms as men because, and under-prescribed pain medication that could provide much-needed relief. Also, how men have a better outcome and survival rate than women because there are usually at least 1-2 women who will step up and care for them, even ex-wives, while female patients sit alone and unsupported in chemo and dialysis chairs. Or how men are six times more likely to leave their wife when she’s facing a chronic or terminal condition. This is not just a statistic for me, as I mentioned in this thread the other day, it has happened to me with two different men who thought they wanted to spend forever with me, until they faced the reality of my health issues. The last one even said mid-breakup that the day he had to call 911 and I had to go to the ER was “the beginning of the end” for him.
So yeah, I did not and would not have said or implied that anyone who is sick should not be cared for, but I stand by the fact that women absolutely do not receive the same standard or care. And next time you want to twist my words around, don’t sub-post; quote or tag me.
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You seem a thoughtful person with a lot to say. Thank you for your insight.

I am really sorry your healthcare experiences are not up to expectations. Truly, I wish they were. For all of us.

We all have experiences that color our world.

I am not a fan of making broad general statements to the experiences of all based upon my own. But that's me.

In any case. I wish you well, in all things.
 
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