What does targeted, sweep-evading, story vandalism look like?

[SkyBubble]

But that other hassle free place doesn't exist.

As a writer here and on other sites, I can tell you that there are places where you can just tell your story without jumping through all these hoops.

 

[OddLove]

Don't you know, we have the greatest writers in the world here, just ask them. NO one vote could possibly be legit.

Jesus, it's actually that simple. I feel like an idiot for trying to seriously engage and apply logic into this "Data"

 

[HectorBidon]

A general point. If anyone thinks it impossible to evade sweeps, I’m more than happy to illustrate just how to do this on one of your stories. It’s childs’ play.

If you know how to do this, then presumably you can "five-bomb" your own stories back to their rightful scores. (Or to whatever scores you think they ought to have.) If everyone had this capability, it might make the site owners rethink the scoring system.

 

[SkyBubble]

If you know how to do this, then presumably you can "five-bomb" your own stories back to their rightful scores. (Or to whatever scores you think they ought to have.) If everyone had this capability, it might make the site owners rethink the scoring system.

They hve systems in place to prevent us from voting on our own stories.

 

[lovecraft68]

Don't mix AI rejections with low scores. Those are two completely separate things. The claim was made that writers are quitting due to discouragement from score trolls. AI rejection has nothing to do with that.

Because the majority of writers don't come here we don't really know if people are leaving in greater numbers or signing up in greater numbers or anything else.

But if more people are leaving I think trolls are the least of the reasons. Being accused of AI when you're not using it will piss people off and having a story stuck for weeks with no response will also do it. The bombs have always been a thing here, those things are more recent and far more of a problem.

What I do know is if people are leaving at least they're leaving and haven't spent months on end saying they are.

 

[MillieDynamite]

Does this soap opera have commercial breaks?

 

[OddLove]

If you know how to do this, then presumably you can "five-bomb" your own stories back to their rightful scores. (Or to whatever scores you think they ought to have.) If everyone had this capability, it might make the site owners rethink the scoring system.

They hve systems in place to prevent us from voting on our own stories.

You can vote on your own stories once. But I'm assuming whatever 'method' Emily claims to know about 1-star bombing people, she can use that same method to 5-star bomb herself.

 

[EmilyMiller]

I'm willing to accept your pattern is malicious, because fucktards undoubtedly exist, but that doesn't mean it's universal.

I agree. But it does appear to be an identical mechanism behind the suppression of top list story ratings. A script that can target me (and it’s not just me, try reading around on AH a bit) is easy to adapt to do other things.

My point is that they seem to have moved on from me to other people, which is entirely predictable (I predicted it). Once this technology is in circulation, it will be used, and who can tell how?

It’s already not just me, and it could be you tomorrow. Especially if you are so unwise as to engage reasonably with the devil incarnate .

 

[EmilyMiller]

If you know how to do this, then presumably you can "five-bomb" your own stories back to their rightful scores. (Or to whatever scores you think they ought to have.) If everyone had this capability, it might make the site owners rethink the scoring system.

I probably could - with some help from ChatGPT (I’m not an IT person) - but I’m a semi-decent human being and I won’t.

And you have to log a lot of 5️ votes to negate the impact of one (or mostly two) 1️ votes.

 

[EmilyMiller]

Does this soap opera have commercial breaks?

On Prime it does, but the version on Hulu is as-free.

 

[EmilyMiller]

They hve systems in place to prevent us from voting on our own stories.

No - he’s right, I could - in principle - manually inflate my own scores to the nth degree if I so chose. But would take time and effort. And I’d have to get help to write a script to do it. It takes much more work to negate a one bomb than to throw it. It’s a weakness of the system.

 

[Jorunn]

I probably could - with some help from ChatGPT (I’m not an IT person) - but I’m a semi-decent human being and I won’t.

And you have to log a lot of 5️ votes to negate the impact of one (or mostly two) 1️ votes.

It only takes nineteen 5 votes to bring that single one vote up to 4.8!

 

[SimonDoom]

Its happened to just about all of us. I can't say its not personal because over time we all gain personal trolls, but for the most part these types just live to bomb people because they're miserable and pathetic and want us to be miserable with them.

It IS pathetic. No question about it. But it's like dogshit in a park. You can complain about it, or just step around it and be on your way. If Parks and Rec has decided it's not going to clean it up, there's not a lot of point in complaining about it in an online forum. You can still have a nice time in the park, dogshit or no.

 

[Kelliezgirl]

Jesus, it's actually that simple. I feel like an idiot for trying to seriously engage and apply logic into this "Data"

Yeah, sorry about that bucket of cold water, but it had to be done.

 

[DEFCOM5]

This thread is a perfect example of the toxicity of AH.
Someone makes a statement. People get really angry at the poster and insults follow. Nothing positive or creative is made.
This kind of thread disgusts me.
I thought AH was a place were "authors" supported other authors. Instead we insult each other or treat them like they are simpleton.
Some people care about ratings and some don't. If you don't, can you see why 1-bombing would upset someone who cares? If you care about ratings, can you learn from the ones who don't care about them?
How about we help each other instead of hitting each other with a flame thrower?

 

[Kelliezgirl]

As a writer here and on other sites, I can tell you that there are places where you can just tell your story without jumping through all these hoops.

Where is the land of milk and honey of which you speak? And how large is the reader base?

 

[EmilyMiller]

It only takes nineteen 5 votes to bring that single one vote up to 4.8!

Consider a close to real life (but somewhat simplified) scenario with one of my recent stories:

85 votes averaging 4.80

15 one-bombs

That gives a current rating of 4.23

To get the 4.23 back to 4.80, you’d need 285 5️ votes.

Two hundred and eighty-five!!!!

 

[Kelliezgirl]

This thread is a perfect example of the toxicity of AH.
Someone makes a statement. People get really angry at the poster and insults follow. Nothing positive or creative is made.
This kind of thread disgusts me.
I thought AH was a place were "authors" supported other authors. Instead we insult each other or treat them like they are simpleton.
Some people care about ratings and some don't. If you don't, can you see why 1-bombing would upset someone who cares? If you care about ratings, can you learn from the ones who don't care about them?
How about we help each other instead of hitting each other with a flame thrower?

Look, someone lit the White Knight Signal!

People were expressing differing opinions, that's what discussions are all about, presenting opposing viewpoints.
We have a person claiming, without evidence, to be the victim of some conspiracy. No one got angry, they simply pointed out the many obvious flaws in the "data" and the "logic".

 

[Kelliezgirl]

It IS pathetic. No question about it. But it's like dogshit in a park. You can complain about it, or just step around it and be on your way. If Parks and Rec has decided it's not going to clean it up, there's not a lot of point in complaining about it in an online forum. You can still have a nice time in the park, dogshit or no.

Instead we have people who deliberately step in the dogshit, then want the rest of us to feel sorry for them.

 

[Kelliezgirl]

Consider a close to real life (but somewhat simplified) scenario with one of my recent stories:

85 votes averaging 4.80

15 one-bombs

That gives a current rating of 4.23

To get the 4.23 back to 4.80, you’d need 285 5️ votes.

Two hundred and eighty-five!!!!

But since dropping the 1s is allegedly a super simple automated process them dropping the 5s should be no more difficult. You just need to speed things up a little. Computers are good at that.

 

[EmilyMiller]

How about we help each other instead of hitting each other with a flame thrower?

The hate is the point, hun.

If someone needs that to cum, then who am I to stand in their way? I’m pro-orgasm, so it’s all cool really.

 

[MillieDynamite]

 

[Comshaw]

Where do you get the data to support that?

The same place the poster got their's that authors leaving will drag the site down.

Comshaw

 

[Jorunn]

I joined to improve my ESL writing skills. I feel my objective has been achieved.

 

[MrPixel]

...authors leaving will drag the site down.

No, the site is doing that all on their own.