What is a pleasure slave?

[rosco rathbone]

more then even you know, uncle rosco.

You just gave me a cold chills all over.

 

[Blushing Bottom]

Sure KC.

I have no desire to be owned...slaves are owned traditionally. I do however want to serve, pleasure and in general accept the direction of a dominant man during the times we are together. I have training and experience in many areas which men and some women find pleasing.

you are going to have to explain that one.

 

[alice_underneath]

Interesting thread...More specificly, an interesting question.
I think that currently the term "pleasure slave" gets muddled a bit by it's use in the Gorean novels...
But...
Even there, the term is correctly applied to one who is totally commited to arts of sexual pleasure... One who is devoted to pleasing their Master.
Which would widely separate them from the Geisha. Since the Geisha were not bond, and their skills were widely cultural..
In a more "real" and "current" context, I would say that a "pleasure slave" is best defined by the Master in question.
As for myself... I would say that a pleasure slave should be, not only a willing devotee of eroticism, and open to all it's permutations on order..

But should also be able to make a good cup of tea.. Of course, serving said cup of tea... Naked, collared, and with the proper attitude.....

What can I say... We all have our fetishes...

I am struggling to understand the difference between a "pleasure slave" and other slaves in the BDSM context.

What you seem to be saying here is that, in addition to the erotic Master/slave dynamic, the Pleasure Master instructs the pleasure slave to acquire specific non-erotic skills.

For example, the Pleasure Master with a fondness for Thai cooking might order the pleasure slave to learn how to prepare this type of food for his/her enjoyment.

Or he might order her to take bartending classes, so she could prepare great drinks for him and his friends.

Is that what the "pleasure slave" concept is all about?

 

[alice_underneath]

Hi, BB.

Trained to give pleasures of all sorts...not just sexual. A rare breed and highly prized by their owners who usually prefer to do the training themselves making sure the slave is all they are desired to be.

I see becoming a pleasure slave as my ultimate goal but in terms of bringing divine pleasure on demand and not so much in terms of being a slave.

I have no desire to be owned...slaves are owned traditionally. I do however want to serve, pleasure and in general accept the direction of a dominant man during the times we are together.

Are you describing what being "submissive" means to you? Or, are you saying that you want to be something else.... a "pleasure submissive", perhaps?

If the latter, how would you please describe the difference between being a "submissive" and being a "pleasure submissive"?

I have training and experience in many areas which men and some women find pleasing.

What are your specific areas of expertise?

 

[Blushing Bottom]

Inquisitive Alice.

Let's see I dance, recite, I know something of the Tantric Arts and if give me enough champagne and I might sing. I have been known to do comic relief. I cook, clean and have an eye for design.

Any training of a sexual nature was gained over the many years of varied experiences.

Gee...Alice I sound like a personal add.

Hi, BB.

Are you describing what being "submissive" means to you? Or, are you saying that you want to be something else.... a "pleasure submissive", perhaps?

If the latter, how would you please describe the difference between being a "submissive" and being a "pleasure submissive"?What are your specific areas of expertise?

 

[DVS]

And what is your opinion on pleasure slaves?

you mean that woman I keep down in my basement? How did you find out about her? She's mine...and you can't have her.

Well OK, if I get to watch...

 

[Evil_Geoff]

And what is your opinion on pleasure slaves?

An interesting concept, if you have the resources to support a household of specialized slaves. You know... one for cooking, another for yardwork, another for running errands, one for running the household, one for laying out and preparing your clothes...

We called them cooks or chefs, yardboy/boi, majordomo's, butler/valet/chambermaid... I know of a few who have a leather family or household built on this specialization but they are few and far between.

A slave reserved exclusively for "pleasure" doesn't fit in with my reality. I can't afford a house with 7 or 8 slave/staff, hell I can barely afford the one I have. My slave will have to be a GP (General Purpose) slave, able to cook, clean, do laundry, tend to my sexual needs and desires, suffer under my hand to sate my sadism, etc...

If someone can afford a pleasure slave, rock on!

Maybe after I win the lottery.... Hmmmmm....

 

[Kajira Callista]

you mean that woman I keep down in my basement? How did you find out about her? She's mine...and you can't have her.

Well OK, if I get to watch...

lol you are silly

 

[DVS]

lol you are silly

She said something similar, when she first saw me naked. But, I took that smile off her face. And, it was my pleasure to do it.

 

[Blushing Bottom]

She said something similar, when she first saw me naked. But, I took that smile off her face. And, it was my pleasure to do it.

 

[Kajira Callista]

Not finding the answer i am seeking in this thread. I guess i will sit back and continue to read. *sigh*

 

[graceanne]

Not finding the answer i am seeking in this thread. I guess i will sit back and continue to read. *sigh*

What are you seeking?

 

[Kajira Callista]

What are you seeking?

understanding of something that i still dont understand lol

 

[graceanne]

understanding of something that i still dont understand lol

Ooooooooh. I guess none of us get it either.

 

[DVS]

Not finding the answer i am seeking in this thread. I guess i will sit back and continue to read. *sigh*

Well, OK, this is what I might see as a pleasure slave.

I see a pleasure slave as someone I might play with on a normal basis, in a scene. Someone who takes any punishment I want to give, any length of my cock down her throat and into her ass. Not so much a 24/7 slave, except she would be available to me sexually at any time. No cooking, cleaning, etc. would be necessary, because there probably wouldn’t be time for it.

She will learn any technique I desire for my oral pleasure, learn any technique I desire her to learn for tempting my erection to grow soon after ejaculation, so I can be pleasured by her again with the shortest "down time" possible.

She would learn things like putting handcuffs on her own wrists behind her back so she could be naked and helpless when I come home from work. She would ask for punishments just because she knows I enjoy her screams.

Essentially, she would be mine for my sexual pleasure, at any time, in any way, and any place I desire. At my whim, she would be the naughty maid, the lustful slut, the rebellious bitch, the horny cheerleader, the misbehaving wife, the disrespectful date and even the girl next door...just to name a few.

My sexual pleasure would be her only desire and responsibility. Of course, I would set the skill level to demanding expectations so punishment would be a regular thing. During these punishments she would learn to react in any of a number of ways from submissive...taking her punishment without question to rebellious...fighting me to the point I am required to restrain her and then punish her even more so, because of that.

All of this would be what I consider the role of my pleasure slave. And, I'm sure I could come up with a lot more, with a little more time for thought.

 

[Blushing Bottom]

OK...so...when will you be holding interviews?

Well, OK, this is what I might see as a pleasure slave.

I see a pleasure slave as someone I might play with on a normal basis, in a scene. Someone who takes any punishment I want to give, any length of my cock down her throat and into her ass. Not so much a 24/7 slave, except she would be available to me sexually at any time. No cooking, cleaning, etc. would be necessary, because there probably wouldn’t be time for it.

She will learn any technique I desire for my oral pleasure, learn any technique I desire her to learn for tempting my erection to grow soon after ejaculation, so I can be pleasured by her again with the shortest "down time" possible.

She would learn things like putting handcuffs on her own wrists behind her back so she could be naked and helpless when I come home from work. She would ask for punishments just because she knows I enjoy her screams.

Essentially, she would be mine for my sexual pleasure, at any time, in any way, and any place I desire. At my whim, she would be the naughty maid, the lustful slut, the rebellious bitch, the horny cheerleader, the misbehaving wife, the disrespectful date and even the girl next door...just to name a few.

My sexual pleasure would be her only desire and responsibility. Of course, I would set the skill level to demanding expectations so punishment would be a regular thing. During these punishments she would learn to react in any of a number of ways from submissive...taking her punishment without question to rebellious...fighting me to the point I am required to restrain her and then punish her even more so, because of that.

All of this would be what I consider the role of my pleasure slave. And, I'm sure I could come up with a lot more, with a little more time for thought.

 

[garbage can]

And what is your opinion on pleasure slaves?

Thanks for asking, I would love to be introduced to a pleasure slave.

 

[graceanne]

Lets see . . . a pleasure slave only has to be really good at sexual thing? And they don't have to do housework or childcare, or accounting, or cooking?

Where do I sign up?

 

[Kajira Callista]

Lets see . . . a pleasure slave only has to be really good at sexual thing? And they don't have to do housework or childcare, or accounting, or cooking?

Where do I sign up?

what if the house work cooking etc is a sexual thing to them?

 

[DVS]

OK...so...when will you be holding interviews?

I've been holding interviews all my adult life. Sometimes, I'm sure I've been interviewed, too. I've found several that were above average, and I can think of two who I have very fond memories of. But, that one...THE one who fits the templet? She has yet to grace my doorway, or has yet to find me worthy of her own interview process.

Appointments can be made for a very personal interview at any time. My plate is far from full. The porch light is always on and the taskmaster inside is more than ready to begin testing your pleasuring skills.

 

[DVS]

what if the hosue work cooking etc is a sexual thing to them?

Hosue work? I'd thnk naked except for a pretty apron would be the dress code. There would be bending and stooping during house work and various implements to assist in a speedy work schedule could be n my hand, when I felt it necessary to keep her on schedule.

Little punishments would be in order if she continously fell short of the schedule goal. Ankle shackles could be used for a punishment period to hinder her speed. This would be similar to weighted ankle straps that athletes use to strengthen their legs before a race.

More restrictive measures, like wrist shackles, could be incorporated to further hinder her dexterity. This would force her to work harder in the hopes that ultimately, when removed she would be able to keep up with her normal tasks. Of course, I would always be there when necessary to speed her along during her day.

Cooking? I love fried foods and the more crispy the better. A nice hot cooking oil is best for my tastes. Her naked body, except for the apron, is the best dress for cook. And, if punishment is necessary...the apron is taken away. Further punishment, if necessary...no covers allowed for the skillets.

 

[graceanne]

Hosue work? I'd thnk naked except for a pretty apron would be the dress code. There would be bending and stooping during house work and various implements to assist in a speedy work schedule could be n my hand, when I felt it necessary to keep her on schedule.

Little punishments would be in order if she continously fell short of the schedule goal. Ankle shackles could be used for a punishment period to hinder her speed. This would be similar to weighted ankle straps that athletes use to strengthen their legs before a race.

More restrictive measures, like wrist shackles, could be incorporated to further hinder her dexterity. This would force her to work harder in the hopes that ultimately, when removed she would be able to keep up with her normal tasks. Of course, I would always be there when necessary to speed her along during her day.

Cooking? I love fried foods and the more crispy the better. A nice hot cooking oil is best for my tastes. Her naked body, except for the apron, is the best dress for cook. And, if punishment is necessary...the apron is taken away. Further punishment, if necessary...no covers allowed for the skillets.

That might make it fun. LOL

 

[Kajira Callista]

OK here is my dilema... I can not find a difference in being a slave and being a pleasure slave.
I see things like this: I am submissive, I am a slave when owned ( i don't think you can be a slave if you are not owned by a Master). Slave is not a character trait it is a label. It is not a dirty word, nor does it mean i am without a brain, it is where i fit...where i belong. I am not a lower life form, nor am i a fool.
When i am a slave (owned) I am for Masters pleasure....when ever he wants, where ever he wants, what ever he wants, or with whom ever he wants.
Am i a cock whore? for him
Am i a slut? for him
Am i a fuck pig? if it pleases him
Am i sexually aroused? always in his presence.
I have no shame or inhibition in his presence.
Is it only a sexual thing? nope

I try to anticipate his wants/desires at all times. I scan him constantly to be able to give him what pleases him without him asking. I know when it is time to be serious or time to be goofy or time to just kneel quietly at his feet. I understand and accept moods without question. I can be his friend or his baby girl or his kitten. I can hold an intelligent conversation and express strong views. I can balance a check book and pay bills on time, do laundry and cook dinner, take care of two kids and, kneeling naked and collared greet him privately in the bedroom if only for a few minutes when he arrives home.

Mostly it is about knowing my place and willingly taking it....For His Pleasure.

I am a slave. A proud, strong and self confident slave. And i am for his pleasure...so if that makes me a pleasure slave, then i suppose i will gladly wear the label.



( "he" in my post is he or she but it was taking too long to type both)

 

[serijules]

OK here is my dilema... I can not find a difference in being a slave and being a pleasure slave.
I see things like this: I am submissive, I am a slave when owned ( i don't think you can be a slave if you are not owned by a Master). Slave is not a character trait it is a label. It is not a dirty word, nor does it mean i am without a brain, it is where i fit...where i belong. I am not a lower life form, nor am i a fool.
When i am a slave (owned) I am for Masters pleasure....when ever he wants, where ever he wants, what ever he wants, or with whom ever he wants.
Am i a cock whore? for him
Am i a slut? for him
Am i a fuck pig? if it pleases him
Am i sexually aroused? always in his presence.
I have no shame or inhibition in his presence.
Is it only a sexual thing? nope

I try to anticipate his wants/desires at all times. I scan him constantly to be able to give him what pleases him without him asking. I know when it is time to be serious or time to be goofy or time to just kneel quietly at his feet. I understand and accept moods without question. I can be his friend or his baby girl or his kitten. I can hold an intelligent conversation and express strong views. I can balance a check book and pay bills on time, do laundry and cook dinner, take care of two kids and, kneeling naked and collared greet him privately in the bedroom if only for a few minutes when he arrives home.

Mostly it is about knowing my place and willingly taking it....For His Pleasure.

I am a slave. A proud, strong and self confident slave. And i am for his pleasure...so if that makes me a pleasure slave, then i suppose i will gladly wear the label.



( "he" in my post is he or she but it was taking too long to type both)

Im with you on this one. I've been thinking about it for a few days and just simply can't see any difference. Each slave is different in what they offer and what their owners expect and want of them. It seems silly to try to label that further into a category.

 

[graceanne]

OK here is my dilema... I can not find a difference in being a slave and being a pleasure slave.
I see things like this: I am submissive, I am a slave when owned ( i don't think you can be a slave if you are not owned by a Master). Slave is not a character trait it is a label. It is not a dirty word, nor does it mean i am without a brain, it is where i fit...where i belong. I am not a lower life form, nor am i a fool.
When i am a slave (owned) I am for Masters pleasure....when ever he wants, where ever he wants, what ever he wants, or with whom ever he wants.
Am i a cock whore? for him
Am i a slut? for him
Am i a fuck pig? if it pleases him
Am i sexually aroused? always in his presence.
I have no shame or inhibition in his presence.
Is it only a sexual thing? nope

I try to anticipate his wants/desires at all times. I scan him constantly to be able to give him what pleases him without him asking. I know when it is time to be serious or time to be goofy or time to just kneel quietly at his feet. I understand and accept moods without question. I can be his friend or his baby girl or his kitten. I can hold an intelligent conversation and express strong views. I can balance a check book and pay bills on time, do laundry and cook dinner, take care of two kids and, kneeling naked and collared greet him privately in the bedroom if only for a few minutes when he arrives home.

Mostly it is about knowing my place and willingly taking it....For His Pleasure.

I am a slave. A proud, strong and self confident slave. And i am for his pleasure...so if that makes me a pleasure slave, then i suppose i will gladly wear the label.



( "he" in my post is he or she but it was taking too long to type both)

So does that mean I still gotta do is laundry and stuff. MAN! *pouts*

To tell the truth I don't really see much of a difference, either. More than sex can bring pleasure to a person. K loves clean clothes, he loves a good meal, and a backrub. None of these are sexual. Doesn't make them any less pleasureable. So it would seem to me a 'pleasure slave' (or sub) would do it all. Whatever it is that s/he wants.