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What is a pleasure slave?

alice_underneath said:
The attitudes toward domestic chores held by "normal vanilla" girlfriends and wives fall into three general categories:

1) She gladly does these chores because she views domestic tasks as part of her role in the relationship, and she is generally happy with the idea that she is pleasing the man she loves.

2) She hates doing these chores but does them anyway because she views domestic tasks as part of her role in the relationship.

3) She expects the guy to take 50/50 responsibility for these tasks, because, after all, it is 2006 and they both get home from work at 6 and everyone's tired and why the hell should she be the one to do the dishes? If he accepts 50% responsibility, she is happy. If he fails to do his share, she is resentful.

Note: In NONE of these scenarios is the woman aroused by doing the dishes. Happy and proud to be pleasing the man she loves is not the same thing as being physically turned on.

From your thread, DVS:

https://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=15959525&postcount=945

If I understand Kajira Callista correctly, what she is saying is that domestic tasks are the equivalent of foreplay for her.

Pay attention! "Stay in tune with her" - isn't that what you said? When you tell her to clear the table and clean the dishes, she is literally turned on by the idea of performing this task for you. To play HER "like a musical instrument", you do not need to wait until you get in the bedroom.

Now, you may be thinking - I don't really care if she's worked up, I just want my dinner. OK, that's your prerogative. But for someone who writes so eloquently about "knowing her state of sexual arousal", I should think you would at least want to be aware of what's going on.

Alice
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Alice, I'm sorry, but am I missing something? This post seems to be reiterating the conversation KC and I were having, but with a few misconceptions. Are you trying to tell me something?
 
Kajira Callista said:
OK here is my dilema... I can not find a difference in being a slave and being a pleasure slave.
I see things like this: I am submissive, I am a slave when owned ( i don't think you can be a slave if you are not owned by a Master). Slave is not a character trait it is a label. It is not a dirty word, nor does it mean i am without a brain, it is where i fit...where i belong. I am not a lower life form, nor am i a fool.
When i am a slave (owned) I am for Masters pleasure....when ever he wants, where ever he wants, what ever he wants, or with whom ever he wants.
Am i a cock whore? for him
Am i a slut? for him
Am i a fuck pig? if it pleases him
Am i sexually aroused? always in his presence.
I have no shame or inhibition in his presence.
Is it only a sexual thing? nope

I try to anticipate his wants/desires at all times. I scan him constantly to be able to give him what pleases him without him asking. I know when it is time to be serious or time to be goofy or time to just kneel quietly at his feet. I understand and accept moods without question. I can be his friend or his baby girl or his kitten. I can hold an intelligent conversation and express strong views. I can balance a check book and pay bills on time, do laundry and cook dinner, take care of two kids and, kneeling naked and collared greet him privately in the bedroom if only for a few minutes when he arrives home.

Mostly it is about knowing my place and willingly taking it....For His Pleasure.

I am a slave. A proud, strong and self confident slave. And i am for his pleasure...so if that makes me a pleasure slave, then i suppose i will gladly wear the label. (....)
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That is an outstandingly good description! If your actions comes anywhere near your thoughts you would be a juvel of a slave, in my humble opinion. ;)
 
Evil_Geoff said:
unless/until she has been conditioned to respond with arousal at the master's command.

The slaves pleasure, desires, or needs are pretty much irrelevant to the master.
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OK if the slave is conditioned to respond with arousal, will she always respond that way...even with another Master?
As for the second sentence... i might be weird but i find that very hot...i guess that goes back to the answer to the first one lol. :)
 
DVS said:
Alice, I'm sorry, but am I missing something? This post seems to be reiterating the conversation KC and I were having, but with a few misconceptions. Are you trying to tell me something?
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DVS,

There's a lot that I'm clueless about on this Board. But if you are going to mention "vanilla" perspectives, I am going to be able to provide a well-informed opinion. :rolleyes:

You were relating Kajira Callista's comments to "something a normal vanilla girlfriend would do if she liked me". One point of my response was to say that her attitude toward domestic chores is, in fact, profoundly different from a "normal vanilla" view.

Further, in response to your comment: "It's all very nice, but it's just not sexual", I was reiterating the point that it is sexual to her. Since you are a guy who emphasizes paying close attention to the level of arousal of his mate, I found it curious that her comments would not strike a chord with you.

Those two observations together constitute the point of my post. Please note that they are simply observations - not criticisms of either you or her.

Alice
 
After reading this I'm left feeling that there is little left to say other than from the point of view of one budding in the art... you should assist traning submissives.



Kajira Callista said:
OK here is my dilema... I can not find a difference in being a slave and being a pleasure slave.
I see things like this: I am submissive, I am a slave when owned ( i don't think you can be a slave if you are not owned by a Master). Slave is not a character trait it is a label. It is not a dirty word, nor does it mean i am without a brain, it is where i fit...where i belong. I am not a lower life form, nor am i a fool.
When i am a slave (owned) I am for Masters pleasure....when ever he wants, where ever he wants, what ever he wants, or with whom ever he wants.
Am i a cock whore? for him
Am i a slut? for him
Am i a fuck pig? if it pleases him
Am i sexually aroused? always in his presence.
I have no shame or inhibition in his presence.
Is it only a sexual thing? nope

I try to anticipate his wants/desires at all times. I scan him constantly to be able to give him what pleases him without him asking. I know when it is time to be serious or time to be goofy or time to just kneel quietly at his feet. I understand and accept moods without question. I can be his friend or his baby girl or his kitten. I can hold an intelligent conversation and express strong views. I can balance a check book and pay bills on time, do laundry and cook dinner, take care of two kids and, kneeling naked and collared greet him privately in the bedroom if only for a few minutes when he arrives home.

Mostly it is about knowing my place and willingly taking it....For His Pleasure.

I am a slave. A proud, strong and self confident slave. And i am for his pleasure...so if that makes me a pleasure slave, then i suppose i will gladly wear the label.



( "he" in my post is he or she but it was taking too long to type both) :rose:
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Blushing Bottom said:
After reading this I'm left feeling that there is little left to say other than from the point of view of one budding in the art... you should assist traning submissives.
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I have.
 
Kajira Callista said:
lol thanks.....im not in the subbie retirement home just yet young lady lol :p
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I know - but I'm gonna be young for the rest of my life. I guarantee it.
 
graceanne said:
I know - but I'm gonna be young for the rest of my life. I guarantee it.
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It's the cookies, isn't it. There's something in the cookies!
 
Me too gracie. I'm probably twice your age but look and feel much, much younger. There may be something in the cookies but most of the truth of the matter is how we seek the cookies.

LOL

:rose:

graceanne said:
I know - but I'm gonna be young for the rest of my life. I guarantee it.
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Re: Pleasure slaves

My experience with a pleasure slave has been that when giving me pleasure and doing my bidding it gave her extreme pleasure as well. It did not matter how she was used since it gave her pleasure to give me my specific pleasure.

A pleasure slave does more than react to you-- she anticipates your desires and needs. If you happen top call her and tell her what a shitty day you are having it is quite possible that she may meet you at the door naked and with a whip in her hand for you to use on her when you arrive home. Knowing that by whipping her you feel better and that there may be some small pleasure for her by being whipped.

A true pleasure slave may ask your permission to cum when she truly believes she has served you (or serviced you) to the maximum she can. For her pleasure is defined by your happiness and satisfaction. When you command her to masturbate and not cum she will do her best and only find intense, real pleasure in hearing your voice say "cum."

There is more of course but that is it in a nutshell. As always kc your poetry is more than words - - - it is music that pleasures the ears as well as the mind.

I haven't been around lately but saw this thread and made me want to put in my two cents!
 
DVS said:
It's the cookies, isn't it. There's something in the cookies!
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DVS said the forbidden 'c' word! Does anybody want to watch him being punished? :devil:
 
Andante said:
DVS said the forbidden 'c' word! Does anybody want to watch him being punished? :devil:
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Me....punished? :rolleyes: You don't know me very well, do you?
 
fallon2 said:
My experience with a pleasure slave has been that when giving me pleasure and doing my bidding it gave her extreme pleasure as well. It did not matter how she was used since it gave her pleasure to give me my specific pleasure.

A pleasure slave does more than react to you-- she anticipates your desires and needs. If you happen top call her and tell her what a shitty day you are having it is quite possible that she may meet you at the door naked and with a whip in her hand for you to use on her when you arrive home. Knowing that by whipping her you feel better and that there may be some small pleasure for her by being whipped.

A true pleasure slave may ask your permission to cum when she truly believes she has served you (or serviced you) to the maximum she can. For her pleasure is defined by your happiness and satisfaction. When you command her to masturbate and not cum she will do her best and only find intense, real pleasure in hearing your voice say "cum."

There is more of course but that is it in a nutshell. As always kc your poetry is more than words - - - it is music that pleasures the ears as well as the mind.

I haven't been around lately but saw this thread and made me want to put in my two cents!
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:) :rose:
 
I could never watch that and will humbly take his punishment for him.

:rose:

Andante said:
DVS said the forbidden 'c' word! Does anybody want to watch him being punished? :devil:
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Blushing Bottom said:
Will the punishment also include my previous use of the forbidden "c" word on ...let me see 3 maybe 4 occasions?

:rose:
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I am fair, so that depends on whether you used that nasty word before or after I introduced the ban! I don't deal out punishments retrospectively. ;)
But as shy may testify; I don't need a 'legal' reason to inflict pain; I am quite happy doing it for my pleasure, not your punishment! :D
 
Andante said:
I don't need a 'legal' reason to inflict pain; I am quite happy doing it for my pleasure, not your punishment! :D
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...and that Sir would be my pleasure.

:devil:
 
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