What is a pleasure slave?

[rosco rathbone]

what if the house work cooking etc is a sexual thing to them?

Exactly.

 

[rosco rathbone]

OK here is my dilema... I can not find a difference in being a slave and being a pleasure slave.
I see things like this: I am submissive, I am a slave when owned ( i don't think you can be a slave if you are not owned by a Master). Slave is not a character trait it is a label. It is not a dirty word, nor does it mean i am without a brain, it is where i fit...where i belong. I am not a lower life form, nor am i a fool.
When i am a slave (owned) I am for Masters pleasure....when ever he wants, where ever he wants, what ever he wants, or with whom ever he wants.
Am i a cock whore? for him
Am i a slut? for him
Am i a fuck pig? if it pleases him
Am i sexually aroused? always in his presence.
I have no shame or inhibition in his presence.
Is it only a sexual thing? nope

I try to anticipate his wants/desires at all times. I scan him constantly to be able to give him what pleases him without him asking. I know when it is time to be serious or time to be goofy or time to just kneel quietly at his feet. I understand and accept moods without question. I can be his friend or his baby girl or his kitten. I can hold an intelligent conversation and express strong views. I can balance a check book and pay bills on time, do laundry and cook dinner, take care of two kids and, kneeling naked and collared greet him privately in the bedroom if only for a few minutes when he arrives home.

Mostly it is about knowing my place and willingly taking it....For His Pleasure.

I am a slave. A proud, strong and self confident slave. And i am for his pleasure...so if that makes me a pleasure slave, then i suppose i will gladly wear the label.



( "he" in my post is he or she but it was taking too long to type both)

^^^^^^ I have no idea why Kasey is still single.

 

[graceanne]

^^^^^^ I have no idea why Kasey is still single.

Boggles the mind, doesn't it. What's wrong with the guys in PN?

 

[rosco rathbone]

Boggles the mind, doesn't it. What's wrong with the guys in PN?

And on the internet!

And they call themselves masters. *shakes head*

 

[DVS]

Boggles the mind, doesn't it. What's wrong with the guys in PN?

PN? Isn't that PA? I could be wrong.

For me, cleaning and cooking, etc. isn't a slave thing to do. I see that as something someone would do for me, because they want to do it. They enjoy it, or feel it needs to be done, because I don't do it that well.

But, I don't see any of this as sexual in nature so I wouldnl't classify any of this as duties for a "pleasure" slave or submissive. Now, some might consider these duties for a 24/7 slave, but we weren't talking about that, were we? Pleasure was what we were talking about. I consider pleasure something that is sexual.

Things done for me outside of the bedroom are domestic, not sexual. I can create a sexual game out of them, but by themselves, they are not sexual.

 

[Kajira Callista]

PN? Isn't that PA? I could be wrong.

For me, cleaning and cooking, etc. isn't a slave thing to do. I see that as something someone would do for me, because they want to do it. They enjoy it, or feel it needs to be done, because I don't do it that well.

But, I don't see any of this as sexual in nature so I wouldnl't classify any of this as duties for a "pleasure" slave or submissive. Now, some might consider these duties for a 24/7 slave, but we weren't talking about that, were we? Pleasure was what we were talking about. I consider pleasure something that is sexual.

Things done for me outside of the bedroom are domestic, not sexual. I can create a sexual game out of them, but by themselves, they are not sexual.

would it be sexual if you knew she was aroused by doing those things for you? knowing you were what she was thinking of and why she was doing those things.

 

[DVS]

would it be sexual if you knew she was aroused by doing those things for you? knowing you were what she was thinking of and why she was doing those things.

Well, I don't know. I just can't think of her coming to me and asking me to fuck her silly because she got so turned on by doing the dishes.

 

[Kajira Callista]

Well, I don't know. I just can't think of her coming to me and asking me to fuck her silly because she got so turned on by doing the dishes.

lol she wouldnt ask. but you would know she was turned on. how does that make you feel?

 

[DVS]

lol she wouldnt ask. but you would know she was turned on. how does that make you feel?

See, that's just not sexual for me. Sure, I would appreciate the dishes were clean. But, if it made her horny, I'd probably end up making her wear something that turned me on, so I would get horny, too. No matter how much I appreciate her doing the dishes, the act itself isn't a sexual turn on. Sorry.

 

[Kajira Callista]

See, that's just not sexual for me. Sure, I would appreciate the dishes were clean. But, if it made her horny, I'd probably end up making her wear something that turned me on, so I would get horny, too. No matter how much I appreciate her doing the dishes, the act itself isn't a sexual turn on. Sorry.

im not making it clear. dunno how to word it right. it wouldnt be the act of doing the dishes that would turn YOU on it would be something else. i dont know how to explain it so lets just find something else to talk about *shrug*

 

[graceanne]

PN? Isn't that PA? I could be wrong.

For me, cleaning and cooking, etc. isn't a slave thing to do. I see that as something someone would do for me, because they want to do it. They enjoy it, or feel it needs to be done, because I don't do it that well.

But, I don't see any of this as sexual in nature so I wouldnl't classify any of this as duties for a "pleasure" slave or submissive. Now, some might consider these duties for a 24/7 slave, but we weren't talking about that, were we? Pleasure was what we were talking about. I consider pleasure something that is sexual.

Things done for me outside of the bedroom are domestic, not sexual. I can create a sexual game out of them, but by themselves, they are not sexual.

Oops. Yes it's PA (I looked).

I just don't know why it has to be sexual. Granted that probably a pleasure slave would only do these things if they're 24/7, but she's still doing it for her masters pleasure. Like I said, their are many kinds of pleasure, not just sexual.

 

[DVS]

Oops. Yes it's PA (I looked).

I just don't know why it has to be sexual. Granted that probably a pleasure slave would only do these things if they're 24/7, but she's still doing it for her masters pleasure. Like I said, their are many kinds of pleasure, not just sexual.

Yeah, maybe so, but when I'm talking about pleasure, it's something that makes me hard and eventually I cum . It's sexual gratification. Now THAT'S pleasure.

 

[rosco rathbone]

A pleasure slave gets her own pleasure from being completely devoted to her man's pleasure. How's that for a definition????

 

[DVS]

im not making it clear. dunno how to word it right. it wouldnt be the act of doing the dishes that would turn YOU on it would be something else. i dont know how to explain it so lets just find something else to talk about *shrug*

Maybe you're talking about the fact that she's doing it for me because she wants to do it for me to satisfy me, and I should think that's sexy?

 

[Kajira Callista]

Maybe you're talking about the fact that she's doing it for me because she wants to do it for me to satisfy me, and I should think that's sexy?

no, she does it because she is devoted to you and adores you and loves doing anything for you. If you give her a task, she is aroused in a million different ways because she is completing it for YOU. I dont know how to explain it any better. sorry.

 

[DVS]

no, she does it because she is devoted to you and adores you and loves doing anything for you. If you give her a task, she is aroused in a million different ways because she is completing it for YOU. I dont know how to explain it any better. sorry.

Oh, I think I understand where you're going with this, but it's just not me. Sure, I would think it's nice she wanted to please me and all, and would appreciate that she wanted to do the dishes, the cleaning the washing, or anything else domestic that needed to be done...but I just see all of that stuff as something a normal vanilla girlfriend would do if she liked me. It's all very nice, but it's just not sexual. Sorry.

Maybe I've lived alone too long and I'm just independent.

 

[Kajira Callista]

A pleasure slave gets her own pleasure from being completely devoted to her man's pleasure. How's that for a definition????

how did i miss this? thank you Uncle Rosco

 

[DVS]

how did i miss this? thank you Uncle Rosco

So, she satisfies herself by doing the dishes. She knows I enjoy clean dishes and she wants me to have clean dishes. She enjoys giving me slean dishes and so she enjoys me enjoying them, because she cleaned them for me.

 

[Kajira Callista]

So, she satisfies herself by doing the dishes. She knows I enjoy clean dishes and she wants me to have clean dishes. She enjoys giving me slean dishes and so she enjoys me enjoying them, because she cleaned them for me.

This is why i dont ever post anything serious anymore.

 

[DVS]

This is why i dont ever post anything serious anymore.

Sorry. Maybe I'm not the right one for you to be asking these questions. I only enjoy sexual favors, for the most part.

This could also be one reason I'm not married?

 

[graceanne]

This is why i dont ever post anything serious anymore.

I get it. *kiss*

 

[alice_underneath]

Oh, I think I understand where you're going with this, but it's just not me. Sure, I would think it's nice she wanted to please me and all, and would appreciate that she wanted to do the dishes, the cleaning the washing, or anything else domestic that needed to be done...but I just see all of that stuff as something a normal vanilla girlfriend would do if she liked me. It's all very nice, but it's just not sexual. Sorry.

Maybe I've lived alone too long and I'm just independent.

The attitudes toward domestic chores held by "normal vanilla" girlfriends and wives fall into three general categories:

1) She gladly does these chores because she views domestic tasks as part of her role in the relationship, and she is generally happy with the idea that she is pleasing the man she loves.

2) She hates doing these chores but does them anyway because she views domestic tasks as part of her role in the relationship.

3) She expects the guy to take 50/50 responsibility for these tasks, because, after all, it is 2006 and they both get home from work at 6 and everyone's tired and why the hell should she be the one to do the dishes? If he accepts 50% responsibility, she is happy. If he fails to do his share, she is resentful.

Note: In NONE of these scenarios is the woman aroused by doing the dishes. Happy and proud to be pleasing the man she loves is not the same thing as being physically turned on.

From your thread, DVS:

It has a lot to do with what you say at certain times, so knowing her state of sexual arousal is necessary. Does she twitch or moan when you touch her, or does she whimper when you explain some nasty thing you are going to do to her body? Stay in tune with her, to the point you are really playing her like a musical instrument, on a crescendo to the climatic end.

https://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=15959525&postcount=945

If I understand Kajira Callista correctly, what she is saying is that domestic tasks are the equivalent of foreplay for her.

Pay attention! "Stay in tune with her" - isn't that what you said? When you tell her to clear the table and clean the dishes, she is literally turned on by the idea of performing this task for you. To play HER "like a musical instrument", you do not need to wait until you get in the bedroom.

Now, you may be thinking - I don't really care if she's worked up, I just want my dinner. OK, that's your prerogative. But for someone who writes so eloquently about "knowing her state of sexual arousal", I should think you would at least want to be aware of what's going on.

Alice

 

[Evil_Geoff]

OK here is my dilema... I can not find a difference in being a slave and being a pleasure slave.

A "pleasure" slave is a very specific kind of slave. One used almost exclusively for sexual pleasure. They may dance, play games, perform music, engage in artistic endeavors, etc, but always their duties come back to sex. Sex with master, sex with whoever master desires, sex with master. Pleasure slaves are not put to work in the kitchen. They are not sent to spend hours in drudgery or manual labor. Pleasure slaves are not sent out to the fields to work as common field hands.

They may spend hours working out to keep in shape, to practice their dance or musical skills, they may spend time in preparing their makeup and costumes. Pleasure slaves are for entertainment & physical pleasure. Only.

Think of it this way: "sex-slave" plus a generous dollop of "geisha" = "pleasure slave".

A chambermaid's duties do not include the duties of a cook, or scullery maid, or groomsman, or yardboy or chauffer. Slave positions within the household (not physical positions like nadu, tower, she-sleen, etc) have specific duties and responsibilites, that's why they have titles. They don't "cross-serve" except perhaps in unusual circumstances. You probably do NOT want the butler cooking dinner, nor the cook making the bed. Doing things because it pleases the owner does not make a slave a "pleasure" slave. Fucking and sucking and entertaining the owner and the owner's buds makes a slave a pleasure slave. If the slave's duties include other functions, they are not a "pleasure" slave, they are a slave.

Addendum: In a Gorean Master/slave relationship, the slave does what she is told, but not out of love, or pleasure, or being turned on (unless she is wired that way and very few are) unless/until she has been conditioned to respond with arousal at the master's command. The slave obeys because to disobey means harsh, and swift punishment. The slaves pleasure, desires, or needs are pretty much irrelevant to the master.

 

[Netzach]

A "pleasure" slave is a very specific kind of slave. One used almost exclusively for sexual pleasure. They may dance, play games, perform music, engage in artistic endeavors, etc, but always their duties come back to sex. Sex with master, sex with whoever master desires, sex with master. Pleasure slaves are not put to work in the kitchen. They are not sent to spend hours in drudgery or manual labor. Pleasure slaves are not sent out to the fields to work as common field hands.

They may spend hours working out to keep in shape, to practice their dance or musical skills, they may spend time in preparing their makeup and costumes. Pleasure slaves are for entertainment & physical pleasure. Only.

Think of it this way: "sex-slave" plus a generous dollop of "geisha" = "pleasure slave".

A chambermaid's duties do not include the duties of a cook, or scullery maid, or groomsman, or yardboy or chauffer. Slave positions within the household (not physical positions like nadu, tower, she-sleen, etc) have specific duties and responsibilites, that's why they have titles. They don't "cross-serve" except perhaps in unusual circumstances. You probably do NOT want the butler cooking dinner, nor the cook making the bed. Doing things because it pleases the owner does not make a slave a "pleasure" slave. Fucking and sucking and entertaining the owner and the owner's buds makes a slave a pleasure slave. If the slave's duties include other functions, they are not a "pleasure" slave, they are a slave.

Pretty much have to agree even with something this Gorean. My bull/stud is a bull/stud. He fucks. He fucks, he takes me out to dinner, he holds my door and he charms my pants off and fucks me some more. I use him for sadistic purposes, but it's just a small sidenote. I don't think I could have sex with anyone who would not let me put the hurt on him ever again.

I fuck my husband too, it's not a true cuckolding situation, but it has a different dynamic - it's more mutualistic and dallying and languid, SM and other things make up a partnership, we live together, it has the sweet smell of domesticity and mundanity.

I *use the bull* to get fucked. I *use the bull* to experience a more bygone male/female sexual dynamic, enjoy that "swept away" romantic quality, and yet still own, tame, control and hold it in my hand. Sexual "bottom" is like a good roller coaster ride for me, exhilerating in small doses and preferable to scaling a sheer rock face or any real danger.

 

[sincerely_helene]

A "pleasure" slave is a very specific kind of slave. One used almost exclusively for sexual pleasure. They may dance, play games, perform music, engage in artistic endeavors, etc, but always their duties come back to sex. Sex with master, sex with whoever master desires, sex with master. Pleasure slaves are not put to work in the kitchen. They are not sent to spend hours in drudgery or manual labor. Pleasure slaves are not sent out to the fields to work as common field hands.

They may spend hours working out to keep in shape, to practice their dance or musical skills, they may spend time in preparing their makeup and costumes. Pleasure slaves are for entertainment & physical pleasure. Only.

Think of it this way: "sex-slave" plus a generous dollop of "geisha" = "pleasure slave".

A chambermaid's duties do not include the duties of a cook, or scullery maid, or groomsman, or yardboy or chauffer. Slave positions within the household (not physical positions like nadu, tower, she-sleen, etc) have specific duties and responsibilites, that's why they have titles. They don't "cross-serve" except perhaps in unusual circumstances. You probably do NOT want the butler cooking dinner, nor the cook making the bed. Doing things because it pleases the owner does not make a slave a "pleasure" slave. Fucking and sucking and entertaining the owner and the owner's buds makes a slave a pleasure slave. If the slave's duties include other functions, they are not a "pleasure" slave, they are a slave.

Addendum: In a Gorean Master/slave relationship, the slave does what she is told, but not out of love, or pleasure, or being turned on (unless she is wired that way and very few are) unless/until she has been conditioned to respond with arousal at the master's command. The slave obeys because to disobey means harsh, and swift punishment. The slaves pleasure, desires, or needs are pretty much irrelevant to the master.

I prefer to seperate my Lange from my Lit, so I'm really glad you posted this before my teeth pierced the remaining layers of tongue skin.