What we progressives and humanists need to realize

Why do Democrat Attack Trolls all pick “666” names now?

Whatever happened to the “69” ers?

This has been my handle since the day I started on this forum. Over twenty years ago.

Aren't you lucky I don't have the power to deport immigrants like you?
 
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Here’s another one I don’t get…. If “ liberals” are inclusive and consider everyone as equal… why do they need so many labels and acronyms ?

How can you be united if you divide eveyone into little silos?

Example: I dont need any labels for you to know who i am and what i stand for, do I?
As opposed to the labels you use: us and not us.

And not us means 'not people'.
 
It's hard for us to recognize this fact. Human always start from emotions and then, most often, rationalize those feelings into 'truth', that is in tune with reality.

The authoritarians and barbarians masquerading as conservatives recognize this. All of their campaigning has been to make sure their victims are consumed with emotion and never, ever get to thinking about what will happen to them under a government run by said authoritarians and barbarians.

Until we find some way of starting our policies from emotion we will continue to lose elections.
What? From my perspective everything you said the opposite of reality. You think Trump wants to control people? He wants government off the backs of people. That is the whole point of the conservative model.
 
What? From my perspective everything you said the opposite of reality. You think Trump wants to control people? He wants government off the backs of people. That is the whole point of the conservative model.
He wants the government as it was under other leaders off the backs of people, he has said after he took away the Department of Education the states would decide how to run the schools, unless he disagreed with their decisions wherein he’d withhold all money for schools until they changed to his own specifications. This isn’t about what the government wants, or even the peope themselves, its about what he wants.
 
It's hard for us to recognize this fact. Human always start from emotions and then, most often, rationalize those feelings into 'truth', that is in tune with reality.

The authoritarians and barbarians masquerading as conservatives recognize this. All of their campaigning has been to make sure their victims are consumed with emotion and never, ever get to thinking about what will happen to them under a government run by said authoritarians and barbarians.

Until we find some way of starting our policies from emotion we will continue to lose elections.

Neoliberals aren't authoritarians. You're going to have to allow people who don't agree with you to exist.
 
It's hard for us to recognize this fact. Human always start from emotions and then, most often, rationalize those feelings into 'truth', that is in tune with reality.

The authoritarians and barbarians masquerading as conservatives recognize this. All of their campaigning has been to make sure their victims are consumed with emotion and never, ever get to thinking about what will happen to them under a government run by said authoritarians and barbarians.

Until we find some way of starting our policies from emotion we will continue to lose elections.
Your whole problem is your glandular (emotional) thought process. Emotions tend to trigger cognitive biases, which are systematic patterns of deviation from rationality. Democrats and other creatures of the Left are emotionally charged, and way more likely to fall prey to confirmation bias that seek out information that supports your emotional state or preconceived beliefs, all the while ignoring contrary evidence presented by the real world. This is how you lost the election and are now lashing out at others instead of looking in the mirror.

 
He wants the government as it was under other leaders off the backs of people, he has said after he took away the Department of Education the states would decide how to run the schools,

That's literally the liberalizing our education system. Blue states can mutilate their kids and red states can teach them racist things, like math.

This is literally the opposite of a authoritarianism.

This isn’t about what the government wants, or even the peope themselves, its about what he wants.
No it's what the people and states voted for. A huge centralized federal bureaucracy hoovering up fuck tons of money and delivering dog shit results for over 4 decades needs to BE GONE along with other useless money pit agencies like the ATF.

1 size fits all centralized federal authority over education has FAILED HORRIBLY on every level.
 
No, it isn't. Decentralizing is not liberalizing.
Less authority and control is definitionally liberalizing.

Liberals are not pro-totalitarian, centralized control over every aspect of every persons life from cradle to grave........You and yours that are?? are NOT liberals.

Why is that so hard for you??
 
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Less authority and control is definitionally liberalizing.

Liberals are not pro-totalitarian, authoritarian control freaks that compulsively must dictate and control every aspect of every persons life from cradle to grave........You and yours that are the over the top psycho control freaks?? are NOT liberals.

Why is that so hard for you??
That whole subject has nothing to do with centralization vs. decentralization. State/local government can be every bit as oppressive and authoritarian -- there are countless instances in American history, and federal government has often played the role of liberator. Why is that so hard for you?!
 
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You need to realize that voters have spoken.
They have not spoken for ever. Trump promised to end inflation, perhaps even to reverse it. When the tariffs he loves so much lead to higher inflation than what we experienced during Biden' term, Trump's supporters will think they were lied to.
 
That whole subject has nothing to do with centralization vs. decentralization. Local government can be every bit as oppressive and authoritarian -- there are countless instances in American history. Why is that so hard for you?!

It's not hard, I'm not arguing it can't be, unlike you I don't deny observable reality, all references and expert consensus.

Yes it does have everything to do with centralization and decentralization. Structure matters, there is a reason authoritarians like yourself are across the board 100% pro centralized authority over everything and most if not all liberals support the opposite.

That doesn't make centralized authority not more authoritarian. Especially considering in American history MOST were not.
 
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It's not hard, I'm not arguing it can't be, unlike you I don't deny observable reality, all references and expert consensus.

Yes it does have everything to do with centralization and decentralization. Structure matters, there is a reason authoritarians like yourself are across the board 100% pro centralized authority over everything and most if not all liberals support the opposite.

That doesn't make centralized authority not more authoritarian. Especially considering in American history MOST were not.
It was central authority that fought Jim Crow and local authority that defended it. In fact, going back further, it was only for fear of national authority doing something against slavery that the Confederate states seceded.

And there was nothing oppressive in the national programs of the New Deal or the Great Society. Nor the Federal Reserve system. Not the First or Second Bank of the United States, or anything in the "American System" of the Whig Party.

American history shows clearly that local autonomy has no value. The less we have of it, the better.
 
Trump is the punishment for voting for Trump. At this point, I’m fine with it... I don’t think there’s any need to argue with them, Trump will do the job for me.

It’s high time that progressives and humanists start recognizing that being a better person should be reserved for better persons… uniform distribution of kindness just leads to you being treated like a utility and not a person.
 
They have not spoken for ever. Trump promised to end inflation, perhaps even to reverse it. When the tariffs he loves so much lead to higher inflation than what we experienced during Biden' term, Trump's supporters will think they were lied to.
Be ok because we won't be getting taxed either....only consumers will be paying taxes.
It was central authority that fought Jim Crow and local authority that defended it. In fact, going back further, it was only for fear of national authority doing something against slavery that the Confederate states seceded.
I understand we have a strong anti-democracy and anti-liberty past.

And there was nothing oppressive in the national programs of the New Deal or the Great Society.
Nor the Federal Reserve system. Not the First or Second Bank of the United States, or anything in the "American System" of the Whig Party.

American history shows clearly that local autonomy has no value. The less we have of it, the better.


:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: Mmmokay you tell yourself whatever you like comrade.
 
What? From my perspective everything you said the opposite of reality. You think Trump wants to control people? He wants government off the backs of people. That is the whole point of the conservative model.
Everything they do involves projecting the reality of their personal beliefs and actions onto others.
 
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