What will history say about Trump?

[JaySecrets]

I’m gonna be nice just for a second here and try and help your dumb ass out ok?

There’s a famous scene from the West Wing dealing with the perspective maps give. Here’s the short version:

Just because you see a majority of red does not mean that red is the majority.
Only an ideologue would assume that (which you are) and pose as some sort of data to backup their beliefs.

It's not just state maps. It's DISTRICT maps. It's a win of electoral AND popular vote. It's the exit polls. It's the interviews and posts and yard signs and rally turnout and social media posts from across the racial and social spectrums. It's All the things YOU were naysaying and claiming were indicative of nothing. Certainly not a HUGE growing groundswell of people sick and tired of being sick and tired of your tired, dangerous, destructive actions, policies and thinking. People who had to work real jobs so couldn't go out and protest like those of you living on the public dollar and wages while you rioted. THOSE people, you said, didn't exist, that the Right was just cherry-picking. Now you lost because of that groundswell that "didn't exist" and are in denial about that too. I am just going to call a spade a spade here. You are mindless drone. A member of the leftist Borg. A useful idiot. A parroter of socialist, lefty talking points. A bumper sticker thinker. A blight on American society that we have collectively decided has had your people in control for a damn far too long. You think you win arguments by making personal attacks and spewing leftist propaganda, and ignore that most of America has long stopped caring what nonsense is spewing out of your uninformed mouth . Is THAT clear enough? YOU LOST! YOUR SIDE WAS UTTERLY REJECTED! SIT DOWN. SHUT UP. GO TO YOUR CORNER. THINK ABOUT HOW BAD YOU FUCKED EVERYTHING UP. Maybe then your side MIGHT have a slight chance to win another election.

 

[Politruk]

Here's a better map. Broken down by county. Note that the cities -- the places that matter, the places where everything of real value to civilization happens -- are all blue even in the red states.

 

[JaySecrets]

It is funny how you think only the left voted against Trump. I voted for both Bushs, McCain and Romney. But I am proud to say I never voted for Trump.

You voted for establishment control... The other side of the Socialist game being played to move America into Communism lite. Bush (both of them), globalist. Romney, globalist. McCain, BARELY Republican and globalist. Trump and Reagan, both non establishment. And THAT is what both the left and the Republicans punished them for when it was politically convenient to do so. They have a club that is part of a circle of power. Outsiders are not welcome because they aren't playing by the club rules. Because the outsider is beholden to the American people, not the political swamp.

 

[Politruk]

You voted for establishment control... The other side of the Socialist game being played to move America into Communism lite. Bush (both of them), globalist. Romney, globalist. McCain, BARELY Republican and globalist.

Globalist != socialist. The most aggressive globalists are capitalist multinational corporations.

 

[JaySecrets]

Here's a better map. Broken down by county. Note that the cities -- the places that matter, the places where everything of real value to civilization happens -- are all blue even in the red states.

Note that cities, those places you think matter so much, have people fleeing them if they are controlled by leftists, to move to areas that have been run for a LONG time by conservatives. And not just people. Businesses. Jobs. The only thing left most of your cities have to offer is location, out of control taxes, homelessness, sky high crime rates, restricted freedom, and human shit and used needles on the streets. THAT is what your leftist utopia looks like.

 

[Swm_looking4fun]

I see the massive difference in how people caught up in emotion view Trump. But stepping into the future and looking back what do you think history will say about him?

Hopefully better than they think about Wilson, FDR, LBJ, Clinton and every single democrat president that was pro slavery before the Republican Party was created by Lincoln (all were racist and against Poc)

 

[JaySecrets]

Globalist != socialist. The most aggressive globalists are capitalist multinational corporations.

ARE KIDDING ME!!! The UN and the rest of the globalist alphabet soup is made up of OPENLY COMMUNIST/SOCIALIST COUNTRIES with OPENLY LEFTIST POLICIES!!!

 

[Politruk]

ARE KIDDING ME!!! The UN and the rest of the globalist alphabet soup is made up of OPENLY COMMUNIST/SOCIALIST COUNTRIES with OPENLY LEFTIST POLICIES!!!

The UN is made up of every country. The other important international organizations, such as the World Bank and the IMF and the G-8, are very extremely pro-capitalist. Not even BRICS is leftist.

 

[Politruk]

Hopefully better than they think about Wilson, FDR, LBJ, Clinton

Future historians will never think better of Trump than of any of those -- not even Wilson.

 

[Swm_looking4fun]

Future historians will never think better of Trump than of any of those -- not even Wilson.

Fdr put a kkk member on the Supreme Court
Lbj ask google what he said about making (a very bad word) voting democrat for the next 100 years after he past the civil rights act. Wilson made segregation legal for government workers 50 years after the civil war. Clinton incarcerated more black men than any president in the history of America. And every single one before Lincoln was pro slavery. You are a god damn fool. Read a book

 

[JaySecrets]

The UN is made up of every country. The other important international organizations, such as the World Bank and the IMF and the G-8, are very extremely pro-capitalist. Not even BRICS is leftist.

If you believe that, you ignore every Socialist bent of Communitarianism, the Socialism lite that is designed to enslave non Socialists into the Marxist system, howbeit by increments. The problem with Socialism is that you run out of other people's money and everyone is equally poor. So Communitarianism uses a merger of Government and business.... FAVORED BUSINESSES... to fund Socialistic changes by increments. A horrible deal unless government favor makes you the only game in town. THAT is what I am talking about. And the World Bank, the IMF, the G-8, the UN, and the rest, EXTREAMLY supportive of this. In their own documents.

 

[Politruk]

If you believe that, you ignore every Socialist bent of Communitarianism

Communitarianism is a concept, not a movement.

Communitarianism is a philosophy that emphasizes the connection between the individual and the community. Its overriding philosophy is based on the belief that a person's social identity and personality are largely molded by community relationships, with a smaller degree of development being placed on individualism. Although the community might be a family, communitarianism usually is understood, in the wider, philosophical sense, as a collection of interactions, among a community of people in a given place (geographical location), or among a community who share an interest or who share a history.[1] Communitarianism is often contrasted with individualism, and opposes laissez-faire policies that deprioritize the stability of the overall community.

And that's all. It is not a thing that influences governments or international organizations.

 

[JaySecrets]

Communitarianism is a concept, not a movement.


And that's all. it is not a thing that influences governments or international organizations.

Again, you are blind if you believe that.

 

[Swm_looking4fun]

Communitarianism is a concept, not a movement.


And that's all. it is not a thing that influences governments or international organizations.

Who are the 2 presidents responsible for breaking communism?
Nixon and Reagan. Both republicans

Read a book

 

[JaySecrets]

Communitarianism is a concept, not a movement.


And that's all. it is not a thing that influences governments or international organizations.

https://www.sociologygroup.com/communitarianism/

Here is a far better and fuller definition, and if you don't believe this brand of Socialism has been embraced as enforceable by those who realized some nations would reject outright socialism because they object to simply handing their stuff to hose who didn't work for it (a basic but accurate definition of wealth redistribution), you ignore everything about history, human nature, and the the very stated beliefs and tactics discussed in open forums at the Global level.

 

[JaySecrets]

Who are the 2 presidents responsible for breaking communism?
Nixon and Reagan. Both republicans

Read a book

Both of them CRUCIFIED by their own side for breaking the rules that the club made. Not at first, sometimes not openly, but both of them were opposed by the establishment on both sides.

 

[Politruk]

to fund Socialistic changes by increments.

You sound there like the kind of moron who opposed FDR's New Deal as "creeping socialism."

 

[Politruk]

Who are the 2 presidents responsible for breaking communism?
Nixon and Reagan. Both republicans

Read a book

No, they weren't. No American contributed anything important to the fall of the USSR -- it did not happen because of defense spending or SDI -- it did not happen because Reagan said "Tear down this wall" -- it happened mainly because the price of oil dropped and the Soviet economy was too dependent on that revenue.

 

[Politruk]

https://www.sociologygroup.com/communitarianism/

Here is a far better and fuller definition

That's not really any different from the Wikipedia definition.

 

[Politruk]

Both of them CRUCIFIED by their own side for breaking the rules that the club made. Not at first, sometimes not openly, but both of them were opposed by the establishment on both sides.

Nixon fell when the evidence of his guilt in the Watergate coverup became so undeniable that a delegation of Congressional Republicans came to the WH and told him, we can't back you up any more, we'll have to vote for impeachment.

Because in those days the GOP still had some integrity.

That couldn't happen now. When Trump was impeached, the Senate Republicans, for purely partisan reasons, acquitted him when they should have convicted him -- twice.

Reagan was never crucified, or even pushed back against, by the GOP. The bastard even got a state funeral, which he did not deserve.

 

[Swm_looking4fun]

No, they weren't. No American contributed anything important to the fall of the USSR -- it did not happen because of defense spending or SDI -- it happened mainly because the price of oil dropped.

mental gymnastics going on here. Your party has always been pro war and against blacks.

Try to dispute that.


Grab your popcorn this is gonna be fun.


Kidding he won’t reply cause he’s a pro war racist

 

[Swm_looking4fun]

Nixon fell when the evidence of his guilt in the Watergate coverup became so undeniable that a delegation of Congressional Republicans came to the WH and told him, we can't back you up any more, we'll have to vote for impeachment.

Because in those days the GOP still had some integrity.

That couldn't happen now. When Trump was impeached, the Senate Republicans, for purely partisan reasons, acquitted him when they should have convicted him -- twice.

Reagan was never crucified, or even pushed back against, by the GOP. The bastard even got a state funeral, which he did not deserve.

Nixon was a coup detat

 

[Politruk]

Nixon was a coup detat

How so? Nobody fabricated evidence to bring Nixon down. Nobody did anything unconstitutional or illegal. Nixon did it all to himself.

The Watergate break-in was only the tail end of a criminal conspiracy that had been going on for a couple of years, Operation Gemstone, the purpose of which was to assure Nixon's re-election in 1972 by sabotaging the nomination campaign of every Democratic contender but McGovern, who was judged the easiest to beat. Which succeeded perfectly, until it was found out.

Now, this was all done by Nixon's aides, the ratfuckers of the Committee to Re-Elect the President, and historians still aren't sure how much Nixon knew about it before the Watergate story hit the papers. But it all went on under his nose -- he was responsible -- the buck stops at the Resolute Desk. And he did commit the crime of obstruction of justice by trying to cover it up.

And as for all the unrelated things about the Nixon Administration that came out in the course of the Watergate investigations -- well, Noam Chomsky was right: Nailing Nixon for Watergate was like nailing Al Capone for his taxes.

 

[Politruk]

Lbj ask google what he said about making (a very bad word) voting democrat for the next 100 years after he past the civil rights act.

If you mean anything here, LBJ almost certainly never said it.

 

[Swm_looking4fun]

How so? Nobody fabricated evidence to bring Nixon down. Nobody did anything unconstitutional or illegal. Nixon did it all to himself.

The Watergate break-in was only the tail end of a criminal conspiracy that had been going on for a couple of years, Operation Gemstone, the purpose of which was to assure Nixon's re-election in 1972 by sabotaging the nomination campaign of every Democratic contender but McGovern, who was judged the easiest to beat. Which succeeded perfectly, until it was found out.

Now, this was all done by Nixon's aides, the ratfuckers of the Committee to Re-Elect the President, and historians still aren't sure how much Nixon knew about it before the Watergate story hit the papers. But it all went on under his nose -- he was responsible -- the buck stops at the Resolute Desk. And he did commit the crime of obstruction of justice by trying to cover it up.

And as for all the unrelated things about the Nixon Administration that came out in the course of the Watergate investigations -- well, Noam Chomsky was right: Nailing Nixon for Watergate was like nailing Al Capone for his taxes.

Have you read the documents? More than half of the people involved were “were paid for the government” and most of the black people arrested for protesting the war in Vietnam were pushed by “people paid by the government”

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