MlledeLaPlumeBleu
Literotica Guru
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M- On a serious note, having a threshold does not make me a hypocrite.
There were these first-year students in a sociology class I once T.A.ed for who were convinced that everything was basically "ok".
"Who are we to say what's abnormal?" "There's no such thing as crazy" "Clitoral circumcision? Well, sure- it's their tradition! Who are we to tell them that it's wrong?"
Relativism, cultural or otherwise, is a fool's paradise.
Where do we draw the line?
I'm not the self-appointed arbiter of collective decency and upstanding morals, I'm a personally-appointed expert on my own perceptions and boundaries. To me, it is impossible to separate motive from the equation, or dismiss intent. I draw the line at associating sex with hate and retribution.
The question was rheotorical anyway. Once I knew Laurel had ok'd it, I had no further thoughts about actually pushing to have the story removed- it's her site, and I like her a ton besides. I didn't even PM her about it- I simply took what you said at face value. The ensuing discussion was completely for my own edification. If that didn't qualify as "extreme", what would? Why does Lit have an "extreme" section, if every fantasy is ok?
Christ, I don't even want to supress him. But what we promote is what we implicitly accept. If we relegate to an area with a disclaimer, at least the social sanctioning bracket stays in place. It's a big step from fantasizing, to writing it down, to putting it out there on the internet. When you put it out there, it becomes less a fantasy, and more a search for validation. Validating the wrong ideas under a mis-applied definition of "free speech" is dangerous. There is a social responsibilty, even among pornographers.
"Free speech" doesn't mean "every idea has equal merit" or "every idea is a good is a good idea".
In terms of fighting- at some point, we have to agree to diagree. It's naive to think that anybody ever wins over anyone else in a bull-moose hornlock like this.
I'm sort of bemused at the below-the-belt attacks, but I'm not upset about the whole thing. Well, except for the posting of my email. Available or not, I felt that was in poor taste.
mlle
There were these first-year students in a sociology class I once T.A.ed for who were convinced that everything was basically "ok".
"Who are we to say what's abnormal?" "There's no such thing as crazy" "Clitoral circumcision? Well, sure- it's their tradition! Who are we to tell them that it's wrong?"
Relativism, cultural or otherwise, is a fool's paradise.
Where do we draw the line?
I'm not the self-appointed arbiter of collective decency and upstanding morals, I'm a personally-appointed expert on my own perceptions and boundaries. To me, it is impossible to separate motive from the equation, or dismiss intent. I draw the line at associating sex with hate and retribution.
The question was rheotorical anyway. Once I knew Laurel had ok'd it, I had no further thoughts about actually pushing to have the story removed- it's her site, and I like her a ton besides. I didn't even PM her about it- I simply took what you said at face value. The ensuing discussion was completely for my own edification. If that didn't qualify as "extreme", what would? Why does Lit have an "extreme" section, if every fantasy is ok?
Christ, I don't even want to supress him. But what we promote is what we implicitly accept. If we relegate to an area with a disclaimer, at least the social sanctioning bracket stays in place. It's a big step from fantasizing, to writing it down, to putting it out there on the internet. When you put it out there, it becomes less a fantasy, and more a search for validation. Validating the wrong ideas under a mis-applied definition of "free speech" is dangerous. There is a social responsibilty, even among pornographers.
"Free speech" doesn't mean "every idea has equal merit" or "every idea is a good is a good idea".
In terms of fighting- at some point, we have to agree to diagree. It's naive to think that anybody ever wins over anyone else in a bull-moose hornlock like this.
I'm sort of bemused at the below-the-belt attacks, but I'm not upset about the whole thing. Well, except for the posting of my email. Available or not, I felt that was in poor taste.
mlle
My mum says I shouldn't take tumescent fruit from strange men, but you seem like a nice enough pirate...and I hear you've got a really capital shiny blunderbuss!
