Wife wants to date other men

[MysteriousGirl]

If you dont want to, then no. You want an opinion? Here is mine, she doesnt deserve you or respect you if she wants other men, when you dont want here too.

 

[MysteriousGirl]

Though many things are, fixed through talking. End the end thats what it comes down too, talking with your partner. You will do it in the end, you might as well talk first.

 

[silverwhisper]

what subwannabe said. this sounds like the beginning of a lit story, to be honest.



incidentally: did this thread start off in another forum or something?

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[Eilan]

incidentally: did this thread start off in another forum or something?

Yeah, it was on the Personals Board.

 

[HussarVanburen]

Wife wants me to agree for her to date other men ,
She says she loves me and wants us to stay together
but wants me to allow her .
She says its a stage she is going through.
Does any one have advise they can give me on this

A man who would permit his wife to go with another man shall no longer be counted amongst men - he cannot be, for that is surely a sign of profound moral and masculine malformation. It is the most cowardly, anti-masculine thing that a man can permit.

I suggest you tell your wife that not only will you not permit it, but that there shall be dire consequences if she acts on her impulse or otherwise brings up the topic again. She is YOURS. You own her. A man who would let his property be pawned off to others is beneath contempt.

Let the consequences be of your own choosing.

 

[HussarVanburen]

It's a genuine question and deserves a balanced opinion. So I'll take opposite tack of you other guys who have already answered.

I think she has paid you a very high respect and honour. I think she has demonstrated her true love for you.

Look at this way....what if she DIDN'T ask? Eg, she very well COULD have just cheated, but she did not. She has paid you a great respect by asking you openly and honestly. Appreciate and love her for that.

Secondly, since she has invited you to be part of this new and interesting development in your marriage, why not go with the flow and make the most of it. It can be a totally erotic experience for you both when she shares the details on her return from a date!

Nothing about her new direction makes you a pussy or cuckold. Actually your consent freely given is a mark of your manhood and sexual security within.

It is so very easy to see what she can get from others that she cannot get from you - and in no way am I criticising you.

The simple fact is that you cannot give her the newness of seduction. Only a new person can. You cannot give her that excitement of the first kiss - you've already done that. You cannot give her the anxiety of "will he call me tomorrow", because you are now married. You cannot allow her to explore your hidden mysteries any further - you both know each other fully.

All people have different seduction and sexual techniques. After you willingly consent to her dating other guys, you will have a vastly more interesting wife and you will get the benefit of her rejuvenated energy and excitement. She will radiate, and you will be the beneficiary of that.

The smart thing to do is to not only consent, but to whole-hearted consent and to fully share her every moment she spends with others.

Generally those that advocate control and to say "NO!" to the idea are actually insecure about their own sexual prowess. NO! does not solve the issue of desire - rather it increases it.

Not flaming anyone here, just saying the fact is that Prohibition 80 years ago did not prevent alcohol, it just created a higher priced, lower quality, black market for it.

Telling her NO! is only going to drive her needs underground and lead her to hide things from you. Her heart is set on being a slut. The question is, is she going to be a cheating slut behind your back, or your sexy slut you share.

So go with it, enjoy it, share it with her. You have a lot to gain from it.

I shall be blunt:

This is the most cowardly nonsense I have ever read on the internet in my life.

Not only should you ignore this thing which intruded with his ludicrous notions of it being acceptable to let your wife convene with other men, but you should consider him worthy of contempt, as I do.

"Confident in your sexuality". Nonsense! A man does not let others take his property. Only a slave permits robbery!

 

[MilkFountain]

Glass half full, half empty--which?

Wife wants me to agree for her to date other men ,
She says she loves me and wants us to stay together
but wants me to allow her .
She says its a stage she is going through.
Does any one have advise they can give me on this

Turn the tables on your wife. (I talked this over with mine.) It was I who wanted other men to see her intimately and to touch her; it took me two years to get her to accede. now she's a willing partner . . .

Despite what some say here, perhaps it is, indeed, a stage your wife's going through, a bee inher bonnet, a bug up her ass. If she says she loves you and doesn't want to lose her marriage to you, then you might take the whole thing as a "glass half full:" enjoy it! (Go to the "wife with other men" thread and read on, at: http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=325852 )

There, under my nickname MilkFountain, I've written 30 or 40 contributions about my wife and me, starting with two on the first page, with "Also highly experienced in your role as step-downer," and the much longer one, "THE ESKIMOS HAVE IT RIGHT."

Sharing your wife with others is a highly erotic, sometimes risky world. Your first experience is terrifying--watching her prepare for the other man: the shower, powders and perfume, dressing carefully, and that animal-alert look in her eyes appraising herself in the mirror just before going out. Join in! Enjoy it . . . turn the agonizing wait for her to return into a lusty anticipation. After all, there is no way to stop a woman once she gets something in her head. You might as well lie down in front of a steamroller run amok. Go with the flow.

 

[MilkFountain]

So, you want blunt?

I shall be blunt:

This is the most cowardly nonsense I have ever read on the internet in my life.

Not only should you ignore this thing which intruded with his ludicrous notions of it being acceptable to let your wife convene with other men, but you should consider him worthy of contempt, as I do.

"Confident in your sexuality". Nonsense! A man does not let others take his property. Only a slave permits robbery!

You're the reason America was stupid enough to elect that criminal, George Bush. You're the quasi-religious, bigoted American Right, the Ku Klux Klan member, the Jew-hater, the secret Nazi admirer. Your sickness has turned the world against the United States.

The man who started this thread is in need of sound advice, not the 1930s driveling hatred you disseminate.

 

[KarennaC]

I shall be blunt:

This is the most cowardly nonsense I have ever read on the internet in my life.

Not only should you ignore this thing which intruded with his ludicrous notions of it being acceptable to let your wife convene with other men, but you should consider him worthy of contempt, as I do.

"Confident in your sexuality". Nonsense! A man does not let others take his property. Only a slave permits robbery!

Last time I checked, a woman is not the "property" of her husband, possibly unless they're in a Master/slave relationship. Not knowing much about those, I don't know if the "slave" partner is considered her Master's property or not.

If you truly believe a wife is owned by her husband, you're the one who's worthy of contempt.

You're entitled to your opinion regarding the "sharing" of a partner, but it sounds like your reason for that opinion is mired in the dark ages.

 

[dad001]

Always Remember

Humans are the only mammals that attempt to go against nature in their monogamy....all other mammals are players.

 

[infinity706]

Last time I checked, a woman is not the "property" of her husband, possibly unless they're in a Master/slave relationship. Not knowing much about those, I don't know if the "slave" partner is considered her Master's property or not.

If you truly believe a wife is owned by her husband, you're the one who's worthy of contempt.

You're entitled to your opinion regarding the "sharing" of a partner, but it sounds like your reason for that opinion is mired in the dark ages.

If i had to guess, it was probably a smartass remark anyway.

 

[bailadora]

A man does not let others take his property.

She is YOURS. You own her. A man who would let his property be pawned off to others is beneath contempt.

Interesting, if somewhat skewed perspective. So I've gotta ask - given your premise that getting married = becoming chattel, does that apply to both parties? Is he now owned by her and considered her property?

 

[subwannabe]

Some animals are monogomous

 

[Eilan]

A man who would permit his wife to go with another man shall no longer be counted amongst men - he cannot be, for that is surely a sign of profound moral and masculine malformation. It is the most cowardly, anti-masculine thing that a man can permit.

I'd take my not-real-man of a husband over someone like you in a heartbeat.

 

[HoHoBomb]

She's going through the fuck you keep paying the bills while i see if i can find a better gig phase.

 

[HussarVanburen]

Interesting, if somewhat skewed perspective. So I've gotta ask - given your premise that getting married = becoming chattel, does that apply to both parties? Is he now owned by her and considered her property?

Bailadora,

Thank you for your inquiry, as it were.

No, properly speaking, it is a man who owns the woman, and not vice versa. However, it is proper for one's wife to own the key to one's heart and to have earned one's devotion. Why would one take her as a wife if she was not worthy of this? To honour and cherish your woman is to do service to yourself as well. It's likewise immasculine to consort with someone entirely beneath one's contempt and if she is truly valuable, one ought to consider her as a precious thing.

But first and foremost must be one's sense of dignity and pride. A man who lets his woman be another man's has vacated all sense of masculinity. To be a cuckold unwillingly is a great shame. To do so willingly, however, is even worse.

 

[MilkFountain]

. . . since she has invited you to be part of this new and interesting development in your marriage, why not go with the flow and make the most of it. It can be a totally erotic experience for you both when she shares the details on her return from a date!

. . . After your willingly consent to her dating other guys, you will have a vastly more interesting wife and you will get the benefit of her rejuvenated energy and excitement. She will radiate, and you will be the beneficiary of that.

The smart thing to do is to not only consent, but to whole-hearted consent and to fully share her every moment she spends with others.

. . . Telling her NO! is only going to drive her needs underground and lead her to hide things from you. Her heart is set on being a slut. The question is, is she going to be a cheating slut behind your back, or your sexy slut you share.

So go with it, enjoy it, share it with her. You have a lot to gain from it.

Congratulations, well said! For more on this subject, go the "wife with other men" thread, beginning on page one: http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=325852 (You might enjoy my 30 or 40 contributions there about my wife, with whom I have the relationship common to Eskimos . . . Read my two contributions on page one "Also a Stepdowner" and the highly graphic "THE ESKIMOS HAVE IT RIGHT," then read on.)

 

[HussarVanburen]

Last time I checked, a woman is not the "property" of her husband, possibly unless they're in a Master/slave relationship. Not knowing much about those, I don't know if the "slave" partner is considered her Master's property or not.

If you truly believe a wife is owned by her husband, you're the one who's worthy of contempt.

You're entitled to your opinion regarding the "sharing" of a partner, but it sounds like your reason for that opinion is mired in the dark ages.

In a dominant relationship, property is indeed a concept that is widely held. I am fond of these sort of things, but it isn't even a matte of that. For my opinion is not mired in the dark ages but in masculine dignity itself. In other words, not merely "dominant-submissive" pairings, but in the basis of what it means to be a man.

"Oh hello, I want you to let me betray you and piddle away all my worth as a woman, while nonetheless taking from you everything I can."

 

[HussarVanburen]

She's going through the fuck you keep paying the bills while i see if i can find a better gig phase.

LOL. Well put.

 

[KarennaC]

In a dominant relationship, property is indeed a concept that is widely held. I am fond of these sort of things, but it isn't even a matte of that. For my opinion is not mired in the dark ages but in masculine dignity itself. In other words, not merely "dominant-submissive" pairings, but in the basis of what it means to be a man.

"Oh hello, I want you to let me betray you and piddle away all my worth as a woman, while nonetheless taking from you everything I can."

Uh huh. Evidently your definition of "what it means to be a man" is vastly different than mine.

My ex-husband considered me his "property". He was an abusive sack of shit.

To me, "what it means to be a man" is the ability to respect and honor one's partner, and treat that partner as an EQUAL. That's how my current partner treats me, and I have no question that he is a "real man" and holds onto his "masculine dignity" quite well.

Again, you're entitled to your opinion. Good luck with it.

 

[Windflower]

It's a rare marriage that can handle that sort of thing.

Swingling is one thing (and still it's rare for it to work).
Dating as in you are not involved... not a threesome....... odd... and even MORE rare that a marriage will handle that sort of thing.

Wife wants me to agree for her to date other men ,
She says she loves me and wants us to stay together
but wants me to allow her .
She says its a stage she is going through.
Does any one have advise they can give me on this

 

[bailadora]

Bailadora,

Thank you for your inquiry, as it were.

No, properly speaking, it is a man who owns the woman, and not vice versa.
However, it is proper for one's wife to own the key to one's heart and to have earned one's devotion. Why would one take her as a wife if she was not worthy of this? To honour and cherish your woman is to do service to yourself as well. It's likewise immasculine to consort with someone entirely beneath one's contempt and if she is truly valuable, one ought to consider her as a precious thing.

But first and foremost must be one's sense of dignity and pride. A man who lets his woman be another man's has vacated all sense of masculinity. To be a cuckold unwillingly is a great shame. To do so willingly, however, is even worse.

Somehow, I had a feeling this would be your answer. Nope, not a concept that would work for me nor one I would willingly agree to. In my mind, "property" is used according to the owner's wishes, regardless of the effect on it. Property has no voice or power of veto should there be an event or occurrence that is contrary to its feelings or well being. Ultimately, property has no say in its fate. While my husband has my love, respect and devotion - it is because he has earned them from me - not by virtue of the fact that he is male and my spouse. I am a rational and sentient person who retains the right to object to, challenge or ultimately reject his actions, opinions or decisions if I believe they are detrimental to us as a couple, to our family unit or to me as a human being. I've done so in the past and will probably do so again in the future.

And to be completely honest - the premise that one's honor, dignity and pride must be placed before all else is a concept that makes me shudder in horror. It is precisely this sort of attitude that supports and condones "honor" killings.

 

[Eilan]

When did my dad become Internet-savvy?

 

[southernscion]

She's going through the fuck you keep paying the bills while i see if i can find a better gig phase.

Brutal, but it kind of sounds like a pretty honest assessment.

Gamble it is really something you have to work out with the spouse.

Has she ever shown more than a fleeting interest in someone else? Meaning when you dated and what knot did she show signs of having an interest in having an additional person involved? Or is it something new.

The newer the concept to her, the more concern I personally would have

 

[subwannabe]

Is there a title involved? When someone owns a house or vehicle that person has a title to the property.