Wife wants to date other men

[infinity706]

Is there a title involved? When someone owns a house or vehicle that person has a title to the property.

Well, some of the heavy S&M slave members have a registered slave number in their signatures. I think it's probably more of a lighthearted thing, but that still sort of counts.

 

[MilkFountain]

Of course there's a title!

Is there a title involved? When someone owns a house or vehicle that person has a title to the property.

Of course there's a (de facto) title involved; it's called a marriage contract . . . That said, please remember that the word "obey," usually included in the vows, referring to the woman only, refers ONLY to the Biblically-adherent husband simultaneously being responsible for making the final decision about matters affecting the family (after listening judiciously and lovingly to his wife, and coming to a jointly-decided decision) and then being responsable for the decision.

REMEMBER: Jesus Christ said that he was the END of the LAW (including all "Old Testament" laws handed down by God), and that from then on, we have, if we are Christian, been responsable for treating one another as we would have ourselves treated . . . Nowhere, since 2,000 years ago, is there Biblical mention of a man OWNING a wife (all Christian era scriptures were written after Christ's death).

 

[bailadora]

That said, please remember that the word "obey," usually included in the vows

LOL - The word "obey" was never included in my vows.

 

[SweetErika]

LOL - The word "obey" was never included in my vows.

Ours either. Nor was there ever any mention of monogamy or religion.

We wrote our own ceremony and vows to specifically exclude all of that traditional stuff and only include what we actually believed in and could commit to. And, interestingly enough, even though we've both changed considerably in the past six years and our relationship is very different (poly, D/s, kink, etc., weren't even on our radar back then), everything that was said in that ceremony is still completely applicable and relevant.

 

[Windflower]

It's D/s or M/s by most examples.

S&M is something that some who enjoy BDSM ....DO.... it's not a word to describe WHO they are.

And those barcode numbers apply to skinny people too not just the BBW (BBM too) people in that crowd.

And, some who have those are more serious about it and some less so.

Well, some of the heavy S&M slave members have a registered slave number in their signatures. I think it's probably more of a lighthearted thing, but that still sort of counts.

 

[Wyldfire]

I'm poly and I have to ask, was this sort of thing in Gamble's argreements with her? If not then I have to agree with the Paying the bills comment.

It isn't the common relationship that can share. Most will let it eat them away and there will be hurt feelings. My hardest advice is to say, if you can handle it, that she can date around if you get to tomcat around too. Make it clear, every date she goes out on you'll do the same. She's gets nothing as a freebie in this situation. She gets a cock, you get to dip yours.

If she says no to the arrangement I'd start making arrangements and gathering the evidence you'll need to make a good break in the divorce.

 

[SweetErika]

Well, some of the heavy S&M slave members have a registered slave number in their signatures. I think it's probably more of a lighthearted thing, but that still sort of counts.

It's D/s or M/s by most examples.

S&M is something that some who enjoy BDSM ....DO.... it's not a word to describe WHO they are.

And those barcode numbers apply to skinny people too not just the BBW (BBM too) people in that crowd.

And, some who have those are more serious about it and some less so.

I'm pretty sure you misunderstood the bold portion of infinity's comment.

He was using "heavy" as a synonym for "more involved" or "serious," and was not referring to body weight, size or type at all. At least that's how I'm understanding it in the context of the sentence and entire post.

You both seem to agree that some view the Slave Registration Numbers as serious, permanent representations of their status in their relationships, and others see them as more a fun, lighthearted thing to obtain.

 

[HussarVanburen]

Uh huh. Evidently your definition of "what it means to be a man" is vastly different than mine.

My ex-husband considered me his "property". He was an abusive sack of shit.

To me, "what it means to be a man" is the ability to respect and honor one's partner, and treat that partner as an EQUAL. That's how my current partner treats me, and I have no question that he is a "real man" and holds onto his "masculine dignity" quite well.

Again, you're entitled to your opinion. Good luck with it.

A sense of equality is rooted in respect of both the other person and oneself. When one declares another to be one's equal, it is an appraisal of worth that functions both ways. Those who treat others as "equals" who desire unworthy things are therefore debasing themselves.

In other words: His appraisal is an insult.

Good luck with that.

 

[HussarVanburen]

Somehow, I had a feeling this would be your answer. Nope, not a concept that would work for me nor one I would willingly agree to. In my mind, "property" is used according to the owner's wishes, regardless of the effect on it. Property has no voice or power of veto should there be an event or occurrence that is contrary to its feelings or well being. Ultimately, property has no say in its fate. While my husband has my love, respect and devotion - it is because he has earned them from me - not by virtue of the fact that he is male and my spouse. I am a rational and sentient person who retains the right to object to, challenge or ultimately reject his actions, opinions or decisions if I believe they are detrimental to us as a couple, to our family unit or to me as a human being. I've done so in the past and will probably do so again in the future.

And to be completely honest - the premise that one's honor, dignity and pride must be placed before all else is a concept that makes me shudder in horror. It is precisely this sort of attitude that supports and condones "honor" killings.

Life, having no inherent value, must gain its value from its status of some sort. Accordingly, a life without honour, pride, dignity, et cetera, is one which is worthless.

However, I always found the Islamic concept of honour killings odd. Rather than seek vengeance against the debaucher, they seek vengeance on the debauched. I fully understand, condone, and support vigilantism when properly employed (against the debaucher) but have never understood the reverse. In other words, my honour killing would consist in hunting down said men and doing things which civilization generally does not permit.

 

[MilkFountain]

CUCKOLD . . . OWN: definitions

CUCKOLD: the husband of an unfaithful wife. (i.e. if you give consent to your wife being with others, whether passively or actively, you are NOT a cuckold.)

OWN: possesion (carnal knowledge) or exclusivity (excluding others).

 

[silverwhisper]

[reads hussar's posts]

[is pissed off at the seconds wasted in that pointless exercise.]

[adjusts profile]

gambler hasn't been back, i see.

ed

 

[KarennaC]

A sense of equality is rooted in respect of both the other person and oneself. When one declares another to be one's equal, it is an appraisal of worth that functions both ways. Those who treat others as "equals" who desire unworthy things are therefore debasing themselves.

In other words: His appraisal is an insult.

Good luck with that.

Whose "appraisal" of what?

I think we're in agreement that equality works both ways. My partner is my equal in all things and I am his. I respect him as well as myself, and have gained self-respect from the relationship with him. Likewise from his side.

 

[KarennaC]

Life, having no inherent value, must gain its value from its status of some sort. Accordingly, a life without honour, pride, dignity, et cetera, is one which is worthless.

However, I always found the Islamic concept of honour killings odd. Rather than seek vengeance against the debaucher, they seek vengeance on the debauched. I fully understand, condone, and support vigilantism when properly employed (against the debaucher) but have never understood the reverse. In other words, my honour killing would consist in hunting down said men and doing things which civilization generally does not permit.

Life has no inherent value? Dear god, and here I thought life was the most precious gift anyone could have. Honour, pride, dignity, etc. are meaningless if one is dead, after all.

Life has value because it is life. Everything else is just window dressing.

 

[KarennaC]

[reads hussar's posts]

[is pissed off at the seconds wasted in that pointless exercise.]

[adjusts profile]

gambler hasn't been back, i see.

ed

Silver, I gotta say, I love your avatar. Nothing like a good old-fashioned trout smack to get the juices flowing

 

[HussarVanburen]

[reads hussar's posts]

[is pissed off at the seconds wasted in that pointless exercise.]

[adjusts profile]

gambler hasn't been back, i see.

ed

Doesn't the fact that you answer my posts kind of defeat your disinterest?

 

[HussarVanburen]

Life has no inherent value? Dear god, and here I thought life was the most precious gift anyone could have. Honour, pride, dignity, etc. are meaningless if one is dead, after all.

Life has value because it is life. Everything else is just window dressing.

When someone finds equality in unworthy people their sense of equality is an insult because they are claiming similar degeneration on their part.

 

[HussarVanburen]

Life has no inherent value? Dear god, and here I thought life was the most precious gift anyone could have. Honour, pride, dignity, etc. are meaningless if one is dead, after all.

Life has value because it is life. Everything else is just window dressing.

To the contrary, it is often most important to have dignity, pride, and honour in death.

 

[silverwhisper]

troll: what you mistake for disinterest is contempt for pig ignorance. however, i can understand how the two might seem indistinguishable to one of your limited cognitive faculties and as a consequence, i excuse you of any culpability for willful misreading: clearly, you lack the necessary resources to engage in such a bad faith response knowingly.

by way of explanation: my contempt for pig ignorance wherever i encounter it bids me warn the friends i have made in this place against rewarding your style of trolling, n00b. make no mistake, you serve but a single, solitary purpose on this forum: scene dressing. you are the used condoms of this discussion forum.



karenna: always a pleasure. :>

ed

 

[KarennaC]

When someone finds equality in unworthy people their sense of equality is an insult because they are claiming similar degeneration on their part.

Worth is an illusion. There is no set "worth" for anyone or anything. It's completely subjective, in the eye of the beholder so to speak. You might consider me "unworthy" because of things I've done in the past, but to my boyfriend, I am very worthy of his love, respect, and of being treated like his equal.

Degeneration is also subjective. Morality is formed in each person's mind, by what they are taught, what they experience, and what they sense within themselves to be right and true. Therefore, what you consider to be degenerate might not be to another. There are some actions which are considered degenerate by the vast majority of people, such as child abuse or bestiality, hence in part why those actions are illegal. Other actions, such as a man allowing or encouraging his partner to experience sex with another person, may seem degenerate to someone like you, but not to other people.

When someone finds equality in another human being, they are affirming the fact that all people are created equal, and that events in people's lives do not diminish the innate humanity present in those people.

In your mind, evidently not all people are equal; it seems you consider yourself superior. You're entitled to your opinion. But not everyone will agree with you.

As for your other post directed to me, there have been times in my life when my life was all I had. Everything else was stripped from me and stolen from me. I could have killed myself, and considered it at times, but I consider life to be above anything else, and chose to keep it.

 

[MilkFountain]

Secundum Quid

To the contrary, it is often most important to have dignity, pride, and honour in death.

That's over-generalizing . . . in protection of others, yes. But as something worth trading one's own life for, without consideration of others--fooie!

 

[MilkFountain]

So, you've been abused . . .

troll: what you mistake for disinterest is contempt for pig ignorance. however, i can understand how the two might seem indistinguishable to one of your limited cognitive faculties and as a consequence, i excuse you of any culpability for willful misreading: clearly, you lack the necessary resources to engage in such a bad faith response knowingly.

by way of explanation: my contempt for pig ignorance wherever i encounter it bids me warn the friends i have made in this place against rewarding your style of trolling, n00b. make no mistake, you serve but a single, solitary purpose on this forum: scene dressing. you are the used condoms of this discussion forum.



karenna: always a pleasure. :>

ed

There's no excuse for you being abusive just because you were abused in your former marriage, escaped, and now are smug.

 

[silverwhisper]

milkfountain, that was hysterical!

ed

 

[pumpdaddy]

Wife wants me to agree for her to date other men ,
She says she loves me and wants us to stay together
but wants me to allow her .
She says its a stage she is going through.
Does any one have advise they can give me on this

By all means tell her yes she can date other men, then get a good lawyer and dump her fat ass. ha ha

 

[KarennaC]

milkfountain, that was hysterical!

ed

I think Milkfountain's confusing you for me... or maybe s/he is just plain confused.

 

[silverwhisper]

karenna: considering my post was quoted in its entirety, i kinda doubt it, to be honest. :>

ed