A question you will not answer, though we all know the answer

Democrat policies are the reasons we are on top of the world in many, many ways.
Yes, thanks to Democrats we lead the World in the conversion of cities into public shooting ranges, the accumulation of human shit on the streets, the creation of public drug havens, trash piles, tent ghettos, and hovel building. Quite the list of accomplishments.

PS: Another first attributable to Democrats, there are no open businesses on the San Francisco Embarcadero for the first time in history and Market Street is less than half occupied.:rolleyes:
 
Yes, thanks to Democrats we lead the World in the conversion of cities into public shooting ranges, the accumulation of human shit on the streets, the creation of public drug havens, trash piles, tent ghettos, and hovel building. Quite the list of accomplishments.

PS: Another first attributable to Democrats, there are no open businesses on the San Francisco Embarcadero for the first time in history and Market Street is less than half occupied.:rolleyes:

Our cities, which again are safer than they've been in decades are shooting galleries because the Right loves guns more than children. Every other developed nation has more gun control than we do. The rest of those things are caused by conservative policies on pay, rent, food stamps, drugs and sex. You guys could end this in a heartbeat by adopting liberal policies like the rest of the world but you like the chaos.
 
Our cities, which again are safer than they've been in decades are shooting galleries because the Right loves guns more than children. Every other developed nation has more gun control than we do. The rest of those things are caused by conservative policies on pay, rent, food stamps, drugs and sex. You guys could end this in a heartbeat by adopting liberal policies like the rest of the world but you like the chaos.
has nothing to the right. Those guns in the ghettos are for the most part stolen. It's not the gun, it's the people using them.
 
It doesn't make any difference if the majority of those guns were stolen. I don't know if that's true, but if they were harder to get legally they would be harder to get illegally. That's just the facts of the matter. This is why Red STates are more dangerous than blue. Even when you pull the bullshit of big Democrat Cities and I have a hard time believing you keep track the leadership in every city in every red state. I mean that's an absurd amount of work to go through. Regardless you're safer in New York City than Kansas City.

That's before we factor in how many people, stastically more often PoCs are killed by cops. The cops are under trained and scared. Rightfully so considering we're armed like we're in Afghanistan or something. But cops are also more dangerous to themselves than criminals are. This is pure Right Wing politics.

You can try to feed me that bullshit about a nation that isn't armed is a dictatorship but most of the world believes in the Consent of Governed. Not Fear of the Government.
 
The cities have subsidized the rural parts of the U.S. since the New Deal. Even the suburbs can’t pay their own way when it comes to infrastructure and public services without help from the city.
And the cities die without the food produced in the rural areas. So in reality it is a synergistic relationship.
 
It doesn't make any difference if the majority of those guns were stolen. I don't know if that's true, but if they were harder to get legally they would be harder to get illegally. That's just the facts of the matter. This is why Red STates are more dangerous than blue. Even when you pull the bullshit of big Democrat Cities and I have a hard time believing you keep track the leadership in every city in every red state. I mean that's an absurd amount of work to go through. Regardless you're safer in New York City than Kansas City.

That's before we factor in how many people, stastically more often PoCs are killed by cops. The cops are under trained and scared. Rightfully so considering we're armed like we're in Afghanistan or something. But cops are also more dangerous to themselves than criminals are. This is pure Right Wing politics.

You can try to feed me that bullshit about a nation that isn't armed is a dictatorship but most of the world believes in the Consent of Governed. Not Fear of the Government.
A gun ban will create a bigger black market for guns much as prohibition did for alcohol. Banning something in reality has never stopped much of anything in this country. Aren't drugs illegal? Then why are they so readily available? By your logic they should mystically, magically, have disappeared.

Guns used illegally have become the weapon of choice of criminals and the insane, There are far more guns than people living in the US, if legal gun owners were the problem you would know within seconds.
 
A gun ban will create a bigger black market for guns much as prohibition did for alcohol. Banning something in reality has never stopped much of anything in this country. Aren't drugs illegal? Then why are they so readily available? By your logic they should mystically, magically, have disappeared.

Guns used illegally have become the weapon of choice of criminals and the insane, There are far more guns than people living in the US, if legal gun owners were the problem you would know within seconds.

Guns and liquor are not the same. Its difficult to explain to people that people LIKE liquor, they like drugs and they are easily made and transported. Guns while of course you can smuggle them in are a lot more complicated.

No by your logic we should still be seeing uzis and armor piercing rounds in the streets. We do not because the bans on those did exactly what was expected. They are very rarely used. FACTS.

By your logic, and I'm increasingly inclined to agree that Americans are uniquely evil.
 
Guns and liquor are not the same. Its difficult to explain to people that people LIKE liquor, they like drugs and they are easily made and transported. Guns while of course you can smuggle them in are a lot more complicated.

No by your logic we should still be seeing uzis and armor piercing rounds in the streets. We do not because the bans on those did exactly what was expected. They are very rarely used. FACTS.

By your logic, and I'm increasingly inclined to agree that Americans are uniquely evil.
Armor piercing rounds...please define that for me. Because I don't think you have a clue. Semi-automatic Uzi's are still available to purchase.

Any good machine shop can make firearms. It doesn't take a large gun manufacturer. In fact many hobbyist gun owners make their own guns.
 
More states than not do not allow people to own uzis and many that do its a "did you purchase it before 1986" or "Do you posess this for scientific purposes.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/uzi-legal-states

When was the last time you heard about grenades in the news? They are little smaller than tennis ball, the amount damage a person could do to a crowd is pretty devastating. Laws work and despite popular opinion most criminals do actually obey most laws, most of the time.
 
It doesn't make any difference if the majority of those guns were stolen. I don't know if that's true, but if they were harder to get legally they would be harder to get illegally. That's just the facts of the matter. This is why Red STates are more dangerous than blue. Even when you pull the bullshit of big Democrat Cities and I have a hard time believing you keep track the leadership in every city in every red state. I mean that's an absurd amount of work to go through. Regardless you're safer in New York City than Kansas City.

That's before we factor in how many people, stastically more often PoCs are killed by cops. The cops are under trained and scared. Rightfully so considering we're armed like we're in Afghanistan or something. But cops are also more dangerous to themselves than criminals are. This is pure Right Wing politics.

You can try to feed me that bullshit about a nation that isn't armed is a dictatorship but most of the world believes in the Consent of Governed. Not Fear of the Government.
Murders & Non-negligent manslaughter per 100k population:
Kansas City, 30.93
New York, 3.39

Kansas City is like 10 times more dangerous than NY, NY.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate
 
Saying the word armor piercing over and over does not define it. I asked you to define Armor piercing bullets.

Most high powered rifle rounds will penetrate bullet proof vests that don't have the additional ceramic plates in them. Most bullet proof vests were designed to stop pistol rounds, NOT rifle rounds. So in fact the 5.56 mm standard rifle round will penetrate a bullet proof vest without the additional plates added. Does that make it armor piercing? NO, it does not.
 
More states than not do not allow people to own uzis and many that do its a "did you purchase it before 1986" or "Do you posess this for scientific purposes.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/uzi-legal-states

When was the last time you heard about grenades in the news? They are little smaller than tennis ball, the amount damage a person could do to a crowd is pretty devastating. Laws work and despite popular opinion most criminals do actually obey most laws, most of the time.
If you can get a Class 3 FFL license you can indeed own a fully automatic Uzi submachine gun. Even without that license it is legal to own a semi-automatic version of the Uzi carbine.

Last time I checked we were talking about guns not explosives. But why bother looking for grenades when with a little gasoline, a wine bottle, and a rag you can make a Molotov Cocktail?

Criminals obey the law? Dude you must take some hellacious drugs. A criminal is called a criminal because they broke the law. Look it up in the dictionary.
 
Well bless my soul. Someone understands the requirements for a Class 3 FFL license.

I understand when someone requires a kick in the nuts.
 
Well bless my soul. Someone understands the requirements for a Class 3 FFL license.

I understand when someone requires a kick in the nuts.
Indeed I do. In fact on my bucket list is a Model 1921 Thompson Submachinegun. Won't happen unless I win the lottery though. The last one I saw at a gun show was listed at $28,500! A little rich for my blood.
 
Indeed I do. In fact on my bucket list is a Model 1921 Thompson Submachinegun. Won't happen unless I win the lottery though. The last one I saw at a gun show was listed at $28,500! A little rich for my blood.
Excellent news. That means there is less chance of one of those nasty city folks stealing one.
 
If you can get a Class 3 FFL license you can indeed own a fully automatic Uzi submachine gun. Even without that license it is legal to own a semi-automatic version of the Uzi carbine.

Last time I checked we were talking about guns not explosives. But why bother looking for grenades when with a little gasoline, a wine bottle, and a rag you can make a Molotov Cocktail?

Criminals obey the law? Dude you must take some hellacious drugs. A criminal is called a criminal because they broke the law. Look it up in the dictionary.

Look if you're gonna bitch about defining armor piercing rounds have at it, I flat out refuse to play a game that stupid when the only important detail is in the 90's you could walk into Sporting Goods shop and get them. So I guess uzis are really hard to steal? I wonder. . .oh the amount of hoops a person has to jump through to get one legally makes it harder to obtain one illegally and that's not even true in every state.

OBviously you can't read because the constitution says fuck all about guns. Hell if you were an HONEST person you wouldn't support us fighting to keep Iran and Korea from nukes. But hey honesty is not a strong point for conservatives. Can you find me where in Constitution it says a damn thing about guns?

Why bother looking for grenades? They are infinitely safer for the person using them. Yes. Criminals obey most laws most of the time. Its hilarious how fucking stupid conservatives are. Like you are incapable of critical thought. Hunter Biden is without a doubt a tax cheat, probably at a felony level. Does that mean he wouldn't hesitate to kill? Course not.
 
Look if you're gonna bitch about defining armor piercing rounds have at it, I flat out refuse to play a game that stupid when the only important detail is in the 90's you could walk into Sporting Goods shop and get them. So I guess uzis are really hard to steal? I wonder. . .oh the amount of hoops a person has to jump through to get one legally makes it harder to obtain one illegally and that's not even true in every state.

OBviously you can't read because the constitution says fuck all about guns. Hell if you were an HONEST person you wouldn't support us fighting to keep Iran and Korea from nukes. But hey honesty is not a strong point for conservatives. Can you find me where in Constitution it says a damn thing about guns?

Why bother looking for grenades? They are infinitely safer for the person using them. Yes. Criminals obey most laws most of the time. Its hilarious how fucking stupid conservatives are. Like you are incapable of critical thought. Hunter Biden is without a doubt a tax cheat, probably at a felony level. Does that mean he wouldn't hesitate to kill? Course not.
Okay so you can't define them. Thanks for admitting it. The bullets that were banned were teflon coated that made it easier for them to penetrate bullet proof vest.

The Constitution doesn't say fuck all about a lot of things. Do you want the Constitution to be the standard then?

Are you personally acquainted with Hunter Biden? You must be if you can say with 100% certainty he never killed anyone or wouldn't hesitate to do it.
 
Okay so you can't define them. Thanks for admitting it. The bullets that were banned were teflon coated that made it easier for them to penetrate bullet proof vest.

The Constitution doesn't say fuck all about a lot of things. Do you want the Constitution to be the standard then?

Are you personally acquainted with Hunter Biden? You must be if you can say with 100% certainty he never killed anyone or wouldn't hesitate to do it.
I'm just not gonna bother, any answer I give you're gonna pull some bullshit and I 'm not playing. I think we should scrap the Constitution, so much of it is dated for one reason or another that its stupid to treat it like a sacred text. You guys however worship it it.

I can say with close enough to 100% certainty he never killed anybody. Just like I don't know your real name and I feel comfortable saying you've never murdered anybody, never forcibly raped anybody, were never involved in human trafficking. The closest to smuggling you've probably done is bought liquor for some of your underage friends.
 
I'm just not gonna bother, any answer I give you're gonna pull some bullshit and I 'm not playing. I think we should scrap the Constitution, so much of it is dated for one reason or another that its stupid to treat it like a sacred text. You guys however worship it it.

I can say with close enough to 100% certainty he never killed anybody. Just like I don't know your real name and I feel comfortable saying you've never murdered anybody, never forcibly raped anybody, were never involved in human trafficking. The closest to smuggling you've probably done is bought liquor for some of your underage friends.
The Constitution is a sacred text written by some of the best and brightest of their time.

I have no idea what Hunter Biden has done, other than what is reported in the news, I do know he illegally bought a pistol. I would surmise he is not a target shooter so why buy a pistol?

You are correct in your judgement of me. I have committed none of those crimes. I can honestly say that the only time I ever bought alcohol for underage friends was when I was underage myself!
 
The Constitution is a sacred text written by some of the best and brightest of their time.

I have no idea what Hunter Biden has done, other than what is reported in the news, I do know he illegally bought a pistol. I would surmise he is not a target shooter so why buy a pistol?

You are correct in your judgement of me. I have committed none of those crimes. I can honestly say that the only time I ever bought alcohol for underage friends was when I was underage myself!

That's the thing, you don't believe its sacred. If you did you'd be rooting for Iran, Iraq, Korea and who ever else to get nukes. You don't blieve what you're saying. And even if they were the best and brightest of their time their time was over two hundred fifty years ago. I wouldn't stack Einstien against Neil DeGrasse Tyson. Hell depending on what it was I wouldn't even post him against a twelve year old.

The exact same reason you claim you want to own a gun. A man who can't defend himself is a slave to his government. I "submit" or "consent" to mine. I'm not scared. I just don't cause no trouble. You however get offended if I do something as minor as kneel because THAT is too much of an individual thought. If the violence continues and riots eventually happen you take no responsibility at all as if you couldn't have joined me in nonviolently taking a knee and cancelling them.

So either you think I should submit or you don't believe in those rules.

I feel certain you (unless you're the baby of your group) that you've bought liquor for your underage friends. I was born in February, after that we have two in March, one in July and two in September. Hell My girl at the time was July for so for five months if we aren't fucking around can you take a a guess what I was between. . .shit I think I was actually eighteen but that made me a loser that no girl wanted to be around cus I wouldn't man up. That said from before spring break to just after graduation I was a R@pist.

If you ignore my parents would let me have a glass of wine on holidays so all of us were criminals. If that doesn't make me a murderer, or a drug dealer or a r@pist in the way you normally think of it it. Not that I was five months older then your argument about criminals by definition break laws or at least break laws in equally important ways is shot to shit. Which is it cus I don't deal well with dishonest people and you always seem sus.
 
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