Abortion

[AndersonsBiographer]

There is, conceptually, a pro-life stance that is honest and consistent. I’ve never met anyone who held it.

Consistent life ethics is a thing. Anti-abortion and anti-euthanasia, but also anti-death penalty and anti-war. Used to be a fairly big thing in nuclear disarmament circles.

I suppose I'm almost the opposite of that. I see no compelling moral arguments against the act of abortion, and very few against the act of infanticide.

During the Early Middle Ages in Europe, the History of European Morals (1869) by Irish historian William Lecky mentions that infant exposure was not punishable by law and was practiced on a large scale and was considered a pardonable offense. In the 8th century, foundling hospitals were opened in Milan, Florence and Rome, among others, to help reduce the deaths of newborns who were subjected to exposure. Church authorities were in charge of this social issue until the 16th century.

 

[v_indigo]

So I’ve heard. Given how they celebrated the Dobbs decision, I don’t believe them.
Outlawing abortion without all the social programs that such a view requires is absurd, and disgusting. So I call them liars.

 

[jaF0]

^^^ On another forum, there is an asshole with a signature that proudly proclaims the person is 'pro-life and pro-death penalty'.

Dude can't see the difference.

 

[v_indigo]

^^^ On another forum, there is an asshole with a signature that proudly proclaims the person is 'pro-life and pro-death penalty'.

Dude can't see the difference.

It’s called fascism

 

[TrailerHitch]

Listening to one of the VP candidates today on abortion say he was "pro life"
Yet, killing living children? That's ok! Even with small bombs in refugee camps because THAT's where terrorists hide.
Dropping a ONE TON bomb on a city? That tends to terrorize really good.
How dare Biden take away one method of killing people, or deplete the military-industrial complex one iota! What the fuck did Eisenhower know of war?

Death toll from strike on Nuseirat camp rises​

The Israeli army says it is checking reports by Gaza officials that one of its strikes overnight to Sunday killed at least 24 people and wounded several more in the Nuseirat refugee camp in the center of the Gaza Strip.
Gaza's civil defense agency said that the strike hit a family house.
The official Palestinian news agency Wafa said several children were among the wounded.
Earlier, the Al Aqsa Martyrs Hospital had put the death toll at 20.

Actually Eisenhower predicted the rise of the military industrial complex and their power over US foreign policy.

 

[HisArpy]

^^^ On another forum, there is an asshole with a signature that proudly proclaims the person is 'pro-life and pro-death penalty'.

Dude can't see the difference.

It's called being Pro Choice. He just chooses differently that what you've been programed into believing. He wants the unborn to live and the criminal to die. You, exactly the opposite.

 

[TrailerHitch]

The same tactics are used for any issue, but abortion is one of the most divisive, so that is where keyboard warriors most fervently use straw men, false dichotomies, and all sorts of excuses to stand their ground, instead of looking for mutually acceptable compromises, practical solutions, and other perspectives. Meanwhile, the boomers are retiring and dying off. The demographics shift may have more of an effect on this issue than anything ever said on the internet.

I'm a boomer and my viewpoint of abortion is crystal clear. I support the right to choose to have an abortion if that is your choice.

 

[Kristal_1976]

It’s called fascism

Nationalist "Christians" or Nat Cs

 

[HisArpy]

When large families and multigenerational households were common, the seniors did the babysitting and chores while people young enough to work went to work. Now we have birth control and nursing homes.

But look at all the jobs those things create.