accepting trump

[feverplanet]

I know you asked, “what’s the point?”.

I don’t think anyone is here, in this thread, to be swayed. Would the purpose be to talk about his future political acceptability? Also, given that this isn’t the most conservative site, let alone, not even really a political board, odds aren’t really even to persuasion.

Or perhaps, you just want to converse respectfully. Good luck with that. Really. The name callers, no matter the thread or topic always rear up. Scroll past fuck you...no, fuck you’s! It’s all just noise pollution.

I will never like or respect Trump, but I'm very interested in seeing where the common ground might be. Your answer, like most responses in this thread, retreats into meta for three paragraphs instead of tackling the basic question.

5 pages later and BotanyBoy is the only person who's touched on a real answer, even if accidentally.

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Because he's proud to be American, doesn't apologize for being being who he is and real Americans are about preserving what it is to be American, not winning a popularity contest amongst the rest of the world by letting them all fuck us up the ass and being good comrades by asking for more.

So along with his unapologetic disinterest in diplomacy, you dig his protectionist leanings and his interest in securing the borders. A lot of Democrats want and have worked towards more secure borders, too (including Obama and the Clintons).

 

[Aquagal]

I will never like or respect Trump, but I'm very interested in seeing where the common ground might be. Your answer, like most responses in this thread, retreats into meta for three paragraphs instead of tackling the basic question.

5 pages later and BotanyBoy is the only person who's touched on a real answer, even if accidentally.



So along with his unapologetic disinterest in diplomacy, you dig his protectionist leanings and his interest in securing the borders. A lot of Democrats want and have worked towards more secure borders, too (including Obama and the Clintons).

That’s because I’ve no interest in convincing or being convinced. However, I am curious to what cleaver’s endgame is.

 

[BotanyBoy]

So along with his unapologetic disinterest in diplomacy,

He doesn't have a disinterest in diplomacy, he's just not caving to the "woke" whiners in Europe who demand we join them in cultural sucicide.

you dig his protectionist leanings

No, I think the gov. should stay out of economic manipulation all together....but a lot of the more nationalist crowd does.

and his interest in securing the borders.

100%

A lot of Democrats want and have worked towards more secure borders, too (including Obama and the Clintons).

Yea but now that Trump supports it they've all but abandoned that and the ones that haven't know they had better STFU if they want to keep their jobs.

Border/immigration control is now clearly a Nazi/Trumpster position and the ONLY possible interest in controlling our borders is because racist white males hate brown skin.

That's why folks in the "woke" crowd like Luk won't ever come out and state clearly that they think our borders should be secured and immigration controlled. They know all their "woke" buddies will condemn them as racist.

 

[HisArpy]

Yea but now that Trump supports it they've all but abandoned that and the ones that haven't know they had better STFU if they want to keep their jobs.

Border/immigration control is now clearly a Nazi/Trumpster position and the ONLY possible interest in controlling our borders is because racist white males hate brown skin.

That's why folks in the "woke" crowd like Luk won't ever come out and state clearly that they think our borders should be secured and immigration controlled. They know all their "woke" buddies will condemn them as racist.

Wait a few years. Once the R's aren't in the WH any longer (because the pendulum always swings) the D's will be all about "border security" once more.

Only this time it will be like Solyndra all over again. Billions of taxpayer dollars spent and then the company goes BK.

 

[oralaccents]

Trump is like having Belushi for President. Or Dangerfield. Or Rickles. He’s more fun than you prune eaters will ever know.

Y’all need to fucking chill.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Trump is like having Belushi for President. Or Dangerfield. Or Rickles. He’s more fun than you prune eaters will ever know.

Y’all need to fucking chill.

The funniest for sure LOL

 

[bigsly]

That’s because I’ve no interest in convincing or being convinced. However, I am curious to what cleaver’s endgame is.

cleaver's obviously trying to desperately breathe back life into dying (thankfully) middle of the roadism.

 

[Ann_Tagonist]

cleaver's obviously trying to desperately breathe back life into dying (thankfully) middle of the roadism.

He's clearing a safe space for Recidiva's triumphant return.

 

[jomar]

He's clearing a safe space for Recidiva's triumphant return.

Talk about rewriting reality with fake news.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

Trump is like having Belushi for President. Or Dangerfield. Or Rickles. He’s more fun than you prune eaters will ever know.

Y’all need to fucking chill.

This ain't a comedy, this ain't a reality TV show. There's nothing funny about government policy to separate children from parents and to lock them in cages.

 

[Wrong Element]

Trump is like having Belushi for President. Or Dangerfield. Or Rickles. He’s more fun than you prune eaters will ever know.

Y’all need to fucking chill.

Dangerfield made himself the butt of every joke, while Trump is incapable of poking fun at himself and is only happy when he's punching down.

So it's a great analogy except for the part about how it couldn't be more wrong.

 

[Luk]

Dangerfield made himself the butt of every joke, while Trump is incapable of poking fun at himself and is only happy when he's punching down.

So it's a great analogy except for the part about how it couldn't be more wrong.

And that Belushi was a coke addict and 45 is Coke addict. And neither of those comedians are in charge of the greatest nation on earth. lil lace is wrong as usual.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Is that what accept means? Seeing where there might be common ground?

SO far, no. He's not said or done a single thing, except for destroying the R Party.

If he could keep going and expose McConnell and dislodge the huge Toilet Clog of all those white Christian male senators, then he will have done something worthwhile. It's obvious he doesn't know shit about policy or care; all he wants is to be popular. If he broke the Senate and signed some of the VERY popular legislation that Dems have proposed, he could get that popularity he wants so bad. If he went down as the Prez who achieved the gun control Legislation Obama couldn't?

But he's too dumb to know what's good for him. Trump and the Rethugs are in a death spiral together.

I will never like or respect Trump, but I'm very interested in seeing where the common ground might be. Your answer, like most responses in this thread, retreats into meta for three paragraphs instead of tackling the basic question.

5 pages later and BotanyBoy is the only person who's touched on a real answer, even if accidentally.



So along with his unapologetic disinterest in diplomacy, you dig his protectionist leanings and his interest in securing the borders. A lot of Democrats want and have worked towards more secure borders, too (including Obama and the Clintons).

 

[von_Bismarck]

He's clearing a safe space for Recidiva's triumphant return.

Recidiva, you say? Troll on, Kenneth.

 

[Luk]

Recidiva, you say? Troll on, Kenneth.

#FerFucksSakeKenneth

 

[oralaccents]

The funniest for sure LOL

Trump is a laugh riot, every day.

He keeps everyone in a lather; just by saying something outlandish in 140 characters or less.

It can be anything; it’s beautiful.

Plus hot wife, hot daughter.

Best President ever.

 

[SpeareChucker]

Honestly, he's in touch with what his audience wants...

~~ and ~~



They want MOAR!

 

[oralaccents]

Honestly, he's in touch with what his audience wants...

~~ and ~~



They want MOAR!

It’s a lot like east and west coast rap or east and west coast punk.

 

[SpeareChucker]

It's more like NASCAR V Road Racing...

 

[oralaccents]

It's more like NASCAR V Road Racing...

Hairsplit.

I also find it funny when a born again christian points a finger in judgement.

 

[SpeareChucker]

Three fingers point back at you!

 

[oralaccents]

He’s the best president ever.

“Fuck you, i’m the President!”

All the comic book superhero movie loving twats here should be worshipping the fucker.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Is that what accept means? Seeing where there might be common ground?

SO far, no. He's not said or done a single thing, except for destroying the R Party.

Oh he destroyed a party, but it wasn't the (R)'z.

Trump is a laugh riot, every day.

He keeps everyone in a lather; just by saying something outlandish in 140 characters or less.

It can be anything; it’s beautiful.

Plus hot wife, hot daughter.

Best President ever.

Just being a rich white guy sends the Carnal Flowers into apoplectic fits on the regular....it's fabulous.

45: "I love America!"

SJW's: "America had slaves he's a racist NAZI!!! Like LITERALLY HITLER!!! Please take our guns!!"

LMFAO....it's amazing.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

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[cleaver]

cleaver's obviously trying to desperately breathe back life into dying (thankfully) middle of the roadism.

no. actually cleaver is trying to cultivate a civil conversation.
that can happen... or has in the past.
politics always seems to bring out the best in our.... ummmmm

contributors.

"middle of the roadism" * as if spit like sour jizz...*
you should talk to the folks in your berg.
most have tired of the road show...
tired of the acrimony...
but you may hold onto it.
your enemies know who you are.

most americans are quietly coalescing with the quieter friendlier mass
as the great big histrionic cock fight goes on across the spacious skies.

I will never like or respect Trump, but I'm very interested in seeing where the common ground might be. Your answer, like most responses in this thread, retreats into meta for three paragraphs instead of tackling the basic question.

5 pages later and BotanyBoy is the only person who's touched on a real answer, even if accidentally.

So along with his unapologetic disinterest in diplomacy, you dig his protectionist leanings and his interest in securing the borders. A lot of Democrats want and have worked towards more secure borders, too (including Obama and the Clintons).

actually, so does accents of lance...

Trump is a laugh riot, every day.

He keeps everyone in a lather; just by saying something outlandish in 140 characters or less.

It can be anything; it’s beautiful.

Plus hot wife, hot daughter.

Best President ever.

trump is vulgar and gauche - unapologetically...

it is a most engaging show - if manufactured fiction...
so good in fact, that most forget that it is not...

or at this juncture, don't care.

certainly the electorate is tired of politics as usual:
preternaturally smiling candidates
mouthing crowd pleasing bullshit with a mock earnestness...
promising attainable unobtainables
and pandering with a gold ring just in finger's reach...

trump puts on a tent show - a revival meeting - a hullabaloo...

tack on the milf barbie doll wife,
the equally Rx'd daughter
the bunny side piece and the porn star...
ahhhh... sprinkled with flash cash
and unabashed gold plated ego...

he presents with all the toys and attributes
that exemplify the only imagined fruits of
the american success story...

he's a fucking gangsta rapper - all woke - and white - and rhymes.

on a most visceral, guttural level...
trump tweaks the basest of american bass chords,
and embraces the flag as the nearest, most effective prop.

it is a truly remarkable performance.
and... not out of his long term character... just bigger - me-tv bigger.

That’s because I’ve no interest in convincing or being convinced. However, I am curious to what cleaver’s endgame is.

my endgame is to impress you, darling...
not with my wit or offbeat syntax...
but with...

ahhhh, fuck it!

you are civil and interested...
for this is less game to be ended, than it is an adventure.
you remind me that even with a plan (for a thread)
the side trips are often more enchanting...

it's why - despite the clamor that erupts more and more these days 'round these parts -
a foray into the stormy seas can be rewarding...

wait.
you considered good or bad - i mean at lit?

There is no shared American identity anymore, there is a split and they are antithetical to one another.

From the evil Nazi idea of freedom of speech to capitalism to controlling immigration and securing our borders there is nothing the other side supports as being American or DJT.

They fucking hate everything about the USA and DJT.
...
Because he's proud to be American, doesn't apologize for being being who he is and real Americans are about preserving what it is to be American, not winning a popularity contest amongst the rest of the world by letting them all fuck us up the ass and being good comrades by asking for more.

i can appreciate your polar view, but still find it... lacking;
not at all in line with the most of us, who together are tired of the enmity.
it describes nothing in my day to day except... in regard to this exceptional president.
he operates in that rarified polar space... and preys upon the weaknesses it exposes.
he most certainly never deigns to suggest he is one of any, but himself....
is this then the paragon of your "liberal" man.

and i vehemently disagree.
there is a shared american identity -
even if today that identity is a populace that feels under constant assault
from quarters that had never assaulted so, before.

the liberals won't kill this country.
nor will your "liberals"/libertarians...
unless we mistake compassion for weakness
or usurp the concept of greater societal good
with "what's mine".

trump's proud to be trump, full stop.
the america you seem to think he exemplifies
to him is just the biggest greatest property he's ever put his name on...
his ascencion alone is what is most admirable...

and in this, i will fully admit that...

as he learns the actual job...
(as they all do)
learns the nuance of what he can and cannot do;
the finesse of the powers,
he does get better at exercising it.

it matters not whether he is entirely truthful on anything;
for it is assumed that he is not (entirely),
many are truly enthused that this vulgar, gauche phenomenon
is firmly shoving his fist up the.... governance
of politics as usual.

and he does exude a kind of humor in doing this...
stoke the boilers...let's see what this fucker can do.

whether these attributes are acceptable is... murky, really.

bb, i think you levy more faith than you should in his motives.
his immigration policy is one of political convenience.
you will never see the big beautiful bullshit wall - much less paid for by mexico...
and were it not for the political expedience of xenophobic baiting
v. a politically irrelevant class/mass... he'd find other issue.
the focus on illegal immigration has just enough validity in it to resonate.
his policyon it? other than focusing polar enmity? really?

i stop here.
not a diatribe.
just a musing on what has been said thus far.