America white supremist nation

[The_Trouvere]

White privilege in America is as real as the nose on your face, and you know it.

My white privalege has been collectively earned by members of my race. When people who do not know me look at me they correctly assume that I am safe to be around, and reasonably intelligent. That assumption is based on previous experience with members of various races.

 

[The_Trouvere]

Sure thing: how many white people got deported this year?

Very few. Very few whites deserved to be deported.

 

[sr71plt]

Accusations of racism are the only response to legitimate criticisms of the Negro race.

I didn't bother to read the rest of this post. Your posts have clearly identified you as a racist and I have no interest in reading your posts.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Nobody can definitively and or point out 'white privilege' hua?


Imagine that....

 

[Misshotndeep]

Nobody can definitively and or point out 'white privilege' hua?


Imagine that....

Edited:
Actually I can. When I can not live in or dive through a certain zip code with out being harassed and criminalized. When I am thought less of at a job because of my ethnic background even though I have more experience, connections and education.
No matter how much money some people have they are still treated as less than. They can not get accepted to certain private clubs and organizations. There is also a bit of the glass ceiling thing going on with CEOs.
Oh and the fact I get major shit for having an interest in Caucasian men. I get called a gold digger and whore all the time. I happen to have a far bit in common with the guys I dated.

I think the biggest issue is that people are confusing classicism with bigotry. Bigotry still exist. But the two are being mingled to much.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Edited:
Actually I can. When I can not live in or dive through a certain zip code with out being harassed and criminalized.

Do you seriously think white people never get harassed or criminalized?

If not being fucked with by police is any racial privilege it would be Asian privilege, not white.

When I am thought less of at a job because of my ethnic background even though I have more experience, connections and education. No matter how much money some people have they are still treated as less than. They can not get accepted to certain private clubs and organizations. There is also a bit of the glass ceiling thing going on with CEOs.

CEO's don't have glass ceilings, anyone can be CEO at any time.

White people are subject to all that shit too, they aren't exempt from it.

Oh and the fact I get major shit for having an interest in Caucasian men. I get called a gold digger and whore all the time. I happen to have a far bit in common with the guys I dated.

Do you think white women don't get called gold digger or whore?

Racism/sexism existing at large is not proof of white privilege.

I think the biggest issue is that people are confusing classicism with bigotry. Bigotry still exist. But the two are being mingled to much.

True.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

Nobody can definitively and or point out 'white privilege' hua?


Imagine that....

White privilege is the absence of systemic racism.

 

[BotanyBoy]

White privilege is the absence of systemic racism.

Elaborate.

 

[Misshotndeep]

Do you seriously think white people never get harassed or criminalized?

True.

White privilege actually, by definition, only pertains to white males. White woman have less privileges traditionally under the aforementioned system. More than minorities still. In said system rich white males have power over many aspects their civilizations. Everything from politics, religion, schools and business. Recently there has been a decline in this sort of closed rank operation but there are still some corners where it thrives and is cultivated.
This sort of system is still status quo in many country areas and parts of the south, where minorities are still given crap if they look a Caucasian in the eyes.
It is not as big as it use to be but it still exit. Also know as the good ol boys club.

 

[KUJACK]

Humans are tribal

We all want to be with others similar to ourselves.
Racism is different, hating those who are not like us is intolerable.
All races are tribal and subject to racism, Get over it!!
Blaming white people for being racist is just myopic and unjust, we are all guilty.

 

[dan_c00000]

State the facts and show me the white privilege.

I almost feel sorry for your ruined, racist asshole.

Black people are more likely to be: killed by police, stopped by police, receive longer prison sentences for the same crime, be discriminated against in job applications, be discriminated against when buying a house, attending a poor school, subjected to everyday racism from racist fuckfaces like you.

I sense a rage quit coming on from your destroyed racist asshole.

 

[Misshotndeep]

We all want to be with others similar to ourselves.
Racism is different, hating those who are not like us is intolerable.
All races are tribal and subject to racism, Get over it!!
Blaming white people for being racist is just myopic and unjust, we are all guilty.

I am a classist personally. I don't care what color your skin is. I don't care what your sex or sexual preference is. If you have no class or supper low education, then I just can't deal with you. It actually gives me a headache.
I was simply answering BB's request to the best of my ability. Yes, every group has some form of racism. Some groups even segregate within the groups.
Now, if you are not going to participate in the conversation fuck off. Grand standing helps no one or this discussion. Damn piss ants!

 

[LincolnDuncan]

Elaborate.

The privilege is in being treated fairly. No one is getting a bonus for being white. Taking into consideration economic biases, white people are treated by the criminal justice system and the educational system as they should. Black and brown people are often treated in those systems by SOME white people with bias and are pre-judged.

Statistics reflect that white and black people use and sell drugs about equally but black people are far more likely to be punished by the system.

Like Trump arguing that he can't expect a fair decision by an American judge with Mexican heritage.

 

[Misshotndeep]

I almost feel sorry for your ruined, racist asshole.

Black people are more likely to be: killed by police, stopped by police, receive longer prison sentences for the same crime, be discriminated against in job applications, be discriminated against when buying a house, attending a poor school, subjected to everyday racism from racist fuckfaces like you.

I sense a rage quit coming on from your destroyed racist asshole.

I am not agreeing with anything BB has posted. I have not read enough of the thread to have that kinda input. I will point out that he asked for examples of white privilege. Those are examples of bigotry, social injustice and profiling. But not one of them is an example of white privilege.
Maybe we need to get a base line definition to start?

 

[Misshotndeep]

The privilege is in being treated fairly. No one is getting a bonus for being white. Taking into consideration economic biases, white people are treated by the criminal justice system and the educational system as they should. Black and brown people are often treated in those systems by SOME white people with bias and are pre-judged.

Statistics reflect that white and black people use and sell drugs about equally but black people are far more likely to be punished by the system.

Like Trump arguing that he can't expect a fair decision by an American judge with Mexican heritage.

Did you just quote Trump???? You are now and forever a dumb fuck in my book. I can not believe you just quoted that dumb bigoted idiot. Seriously? I though people on here had way to much intelligence to quote him. It is like quoting the national enquirer! Or better yet The Onion. SMH Moron!

 

[BotanyBoy]

White privilege actually, by definition, only pertains to white males.

I have yet to ever even see a definition of white privilege that even remotely made sense.

Lot's of "Not having to see faces of color every day." and "Not worrying about or being shot by cops." but never an actual definition of.

What privileges do white males have that others are restricted from?

What are white men allowed to do that women and minorities are not?

Show me and I'll fight against it any way I can.

White woman have less privileges traditionally under the aforementioned system. More than minorities still.

Traditionally yes women and minorities were hosed.

I'm talking about today, 2016. What are they not allowed to do or what perks do they not get that white men do?

In said system rich white males have power over many aspects their civilizations. Everything from politics, religion, schools and business.

In a democratically run country where any woman or minority is allowed to run for or hold any office, and do so EVERY DAY, how is that a white male privilege?

Recently there has been a decline in this sort of closed rank operation but there are still some corners where it thrives and is cultivated.

Name one that isn't a private club/organization.

They need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

This sort of system is still status quo in many country areas and parts of the south, where minorities are still given crap if they look a Caucasian in the eyes. It is not as big as it use to be but it still exit. Also know as the good ol boys club.

And minorities don't shit talk white folks?

Racism isn't white privilege. Every group as a whole is guilty as fuck of racism.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I almost feel sorry for your ruined, racist asshole.

Black people are more likely to be:

They also commit crime at signifigantly higher rates, make less money, care less about doing well in school or being productive for their parent companies.

subjected to everyday racism[/URL] from racist fuckfaces like you.

That's location privilege, not white privilege.

How am I racist? Because I'm asking for something other than emotional outrage to back up the idea of white privilege? LOL try again.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Then you should have NO PROBLEM pointing out that white privilege as well as explaining why Asians, Jews and a large portion of the Latino community have more of it than white people.

White privilege is a SJW lie.

UN report.

A detailed report by a United Nations group has harshly condemned the many forms of structural racism black Americans face in the United States, and called for reparations for centuries of enslavement, segregation and discrimination.

The U.S. government is “not acting with due diligence to protect the rights of African Americans,” the group said. It called for more thorough civil rights laws, and encouraged the government to create a national plan to comprehensively address racism.

“There is a profound need to acknowledge that the transatlantic trade in Africans, enslavement, colonization and colonialism were a crime against humanity and are among the major sources and manifestations of racism, racial discrimination, Afrophobia, xenophobia and related intolerance,” the U.N. group stressed. “Past injustices and crimes against African Americans need to be addressed with reparatory justice.”

These recommendations were made in a recent report by the U.N. Working Group of Experts on People of African Descent. This group is made up of prominent human rights advocates and lawyers from around the world.

Despite some gradual gains over the decades, the working group cautioned that it “remains extremely concerned about the human rights situation of African Americans.” Its report continued: “In particular, the legacy of colonial history, enslavement, racial subordination and segregation, racial terrorism and racial inequality in the United States remains a serious challenge, as there has been no real commitment to reparations and to truth and reconciliation for people of African descent.”

Since civil rights activists pressured the government to abolish Jim Crow segregation in the 1960s, the U.N. group said, “a systemic ideology of racism ensuring the domination of one group over another continues to impact negatively on the civil, political, economic, social and cultural rights of African Americans today.”

This new systemic racism manifests itself in numerous forms, through police brutality, mass incarceration, extreme poverty and drastically inequitable access to resources and social services.

The report criticized what it called “the epidemic of racial violence by the police.” The U.N. group recommended “urgent action” on the issue, noting, “Contemporary police killings and the trauma that they create are reminiscent of the past racial terror of lynching.”

“Impunity for State violence has resulted in the current human rights crisis and must be addressed as a matter of urgency,” the report said. It described lynching as “a form of racial terrorism that has contributed to a legacy of racial inequality that the United States must address.”

Mass incarceration, the group furthermore noted, is “considered a system of racial control that operate in a similar way to how Jim Crow laws once operated.”

“The devastating impact of the ‘War on Drugs’ has led to mass incarceration and is compared by African Americans to enslavement, due to the exploitation and dehumanization of African Americans,” it added.

The U.N. Working Group of Experts on People of African Descent visited the U.S. from January 19 to 29, 2016. They visited several major cities, including New York, Chicago, Baltimore, Washington and Jackson, Mississippi. They also met with government officials from various departments at the federal and state level.

Some U.S. officials with whom the group requested to meet did not do so. It was also not given access to Mississippi State Penitentiary, which the group noted “undermines the responsibility of the United States to cooperate with the United Nations human rights mechanisms.” It called for the U.S. government to allow independent monitoring of places of detention.

 

[Misshotndeep]

I have yet to ever even see a definition of white privilege that even remotely made sense.

Just because people are allowed to do something does not mean they are not discouraged. Like people in Virginia can still marry second cousins. It's discouraged but still on the books.
In many southern communities women are discouraged from public office. Even if they ran few would vote for them anyway. I defined a system that is dying. I never said it was steel strong and growing.
Again, it is a group of Caucasian males; normally rich who control many aspects, if not all of a community or organization. I was defining it. There use to be gentleman's clubs (not strip clubs) where one of the requisite was you had to be white. Another was you had to be male. They were places to network and socialize. Therefor the privileges that came from networking and having a friend in the right place to do you a "favor" were closed to those who could enter the club. Then it moved to the Cocktail parties of the 50's. Only the right people were invited. None whites were not on the list. Again, closing off the opportunities to network and socialize.
In the south it translated to the good ol boys club and was normally associated with racism Since the members where often the same one riding around in the white hoods. It was a closed community of white men for white men.
Little pockets of these idiots still exit. Not many as they are dying off but they are still around and delusional.
Oh and there are still groups of idiots that think minorities are less than Caucasians in every way and should be separated. As long as one of those fuckers is alive you will have some pocket of White privilege. The loop holes that made it even possible in the system are being filled daily. Still someone out there is going to find a way if they really want to. Sad really. We are all human. Race, sex and sexual preference are not really reasons for distinction.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

Did you just quote Trump???? You are now and forever a dumb fuck in my book. I can not believe you just quoted that dumb bigoted idiot. Seriously? I though people on here had way to much intelligence to quote him. It is like quoting the national enquirer! Or better yet The Onion. SMH Moron!

No I didn't quote Trump. If I had, you would have been able to identify the quote by my appropriate use of quotation marks.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Black and brown people are often treated in those systems by SOME white people with bias and are pre-judged.

See this is the bullshit I can't buy.

Who is SOME white people?

And can you prove that no other race of people do that making it a white privilege?

Statistics reflect that white and black people use and sell drugs about equally but black people are far more likely to be punished by the system.

You mean more black people get caught and hammered in court?

Is that a white privilege or a behavior privilege?

Asians sling more dope than anyone, but we hardly EVER get busted for it.

You think maybe it has to do with being humble, covering our ass with careful/clever planning and staying quiet instead of gloating and being a flashy as possible about it while intentionally antagonizing the popo?

Like Trump arguing that he can't expect a fair decision by an American judge with Mexican heritage.

That's racism, anyone can do it not just white guys.

And he got bashed mercilessly for it. If Trump doesn't still have to stand in front of that judge there is far more evidence of that being a wealth privilege than a skin color privilege. You gotta be mega rich to do that, and then the only color that matters is green.

 

[BotanyBoy]

*edited to get to the relevant meat.*

This new systemic racism manifests itself in numerous forms, through police brutality, mass incarceration, extreme poverty and drastically inequitable access to resources and social services.

1) I simply dismiss their argument for reparations as evidence or example of white privilege. It's simply irrelevant.

2) Police brutality, is on a slight rise in the past couple years but overall down....SIGNIFICANTLY if you look back far enough, pre 70's the police were fucking GOONZ. Other than a proportionally microscopic number of racist shit, and a slightly less microscopic number of pure negligent fuck ups, over all the situation is pretty awesome.

3) Mass incarceration, behavioral consequences and once again not exclusively a black problem or a white privilege. The only color that can save a busted dealer/trafficker/producer is green.

4) Extreme poverty....again not a black problem. There are more poor white people in extreme poverty than the entire black population. Born white doesn't mean born rich. This is an economic policy issue, not white privilege.

5)drastically inequitable access to resources and social services. Like WHAT?

 

[LincolnDuncan]

They also commit crime at signifigantly higher rates, make less money, care less about doing well in school or being productive for their parent companies.



That's location privilege, not white privilege.

How am I racist? Because I'm asking for something other than emotional outrage to back up the idea of white privilege? LOL try again.

“You want to know what this was really all about?” he asked with the bluntness of a man who, after public disgrace and a stretch in federal prison, had little left to protect. “The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.” John Erlichman

Of course, we all know that he was just kidding.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/23/politics/john-ehrlichman-richard-nixon-drug-war-blacks-hippie/

 

[Hard_Rom]

White privilege

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_privilege

The definition of white privilege, as with many terms, varies from source to source, but is generally distinguished from active bias or prejudice against non-white people.[14] The following is a partial list of definitions:
"White privilege is the ability for Whites to maintain an elevated status in society that masks racial inequality." Andersen, M.; Taylor, H.; Logio, K. (2014). Sociology: The Essentials (8th ed.). Cengage Learning. p. 424. ISBN 978-1-285-96566-6.

"White privilege has been defined by David Wellman as a system of advantage based on race. It has been compared by Peggy McIntosh to an invisible, weightless knapsack of assets and resources that she was given because she was born White in her time and place in U.S. society. Paula Rothenberg defines White privilege as the other side of discrimination, meaning the opposite of discrimination." Banks, J. (2012). Encyclopedia of Diversity in Education. Thousand Oaks, California: SAGE Publications. p. 2300. ISBN 978-1-4129-8152-1.

"White privilege, specifically, is an institutional set of unearned benefits granted to White people (Kendall, 2001, 2006; McIntosh, 1989; Sue, 2003). Sue (2003) defines White privilege as "unearned advantages and benefits" given to White persons based on a system that was "normed on the experiences, values, and perceptions" of White persons (p. 7). McIntosh (1989) characterizes White privilege as "an invisible package of unearned assets which I can count on cashing in each day, but about which I was 'meant' to remain oblivious" (p. 10). She likens it to "an invisible weightless knapsack of special provisions, maps, passports, codebooks, visas, clothes, tools, and blank checks" (p. 10). Kendall (2006) describes White privilege as "an institutional, rather than personal, set of benefits granted to" (p. 63) people whose race resembles that of the people who are in power." Dressel, J. L.; Kerr, S.; Steven, H. B. (2010). "Developing Competency with White Identity and Privilege". In Cornish; et al. Handbook of multicultural counseling competencies. Hoboken, N.J: John Wiley. ISBN 978-0-470-43746-9.

"McIntosh is adept at describing the daily advantage white people have based on the color of their skin. Wildman (2000) discusses the characteristics of the privileged by saying they "define the societal norm, often benefiting those in the privileged group. Second, privileged group members can rely on their privilege and avoid objecting to oppression" (p. 53). The result of this societal norm is that everyone is required to live by the attributes held by the privileged. In society white people define and determine the terms of success and failure; they are the norm. Thus, "achievements by members of the privileged group are viewed as meritorious and the result of individual effort, rather than as privileged" (p. 53)." Lund, C. L. (2010). "The nature of white privilege in the teaching and training of adults". New Directions for Adult and Continuing Education. 2010 (125): 18. doi:10.1002/ace.359.

"Experts define White privilege as a combination of exclusive standards and opinions that are supported by Whites in a way that continually reinforces social distance between groups on the basis of power, access, advantage, majority status, control, choice, autonomy, authority, possessions, wealth, opportunity, materialistic acquisition, connection, access, preferential treatment, entitlement, and social standing (Hays & Chang, 2003; Manning & Baruth, 2009)." Vang, C. T. (2010). An educational psychology of methods in multicultural education. New York: Peter Lang. pp. 36 and 37. ISBN 978-1-4331-0790-0.

"White privilege" refers to the myriad of social advantages, benefits, and courtesies that come with being a member of the dominant race." Delgado, Richard; Stefancic, Jean (2001). Critical Race Theory: An Introduction. New York and London: New York University Press. p. 78. ISBN 0-8147-1931-7.

"White privilege is a form of racism that both underlies and is distinct from institutional and overt racism. It underlies them in that both are predicated on preserving the privileges of white people (regardless of whether agents recognize this or not). But it is also distinct in terms of intentionality. It refers to the hegemonic structures, practices, and ideologies that reproduce whites' privileged status. In this scenario, whites do not necessarily intend to hurt people of color, but because they are unaware of their white-skin privilege, and because they accrue social and economic benefits by maintaining the status quo, they inevitably do." Pulido, L. (2000). "Rethinking Environmental Racism: White Privilege and Urban Development in Southern California". Annals of the Association of American Geographers. 90: 15. doi:10.1111/0004-5608.00182.

Cheryl Harris describes whiteness as a form of property, which confers privileges on its holders. In "Whiteness as Property," Harris writes, "The wages of whiteness are available to all whites, regardless of class position — even to those whites who are without power, money, or influence. Whiteness, the characteristic that distinguishes them from blacks, serves as compensation even to those who lack material wealth. It is the relative political advantages extended to whites, rather than actual economic gains, that are crucial to white workers." Cheryl, Harris (1995). "Whiteness as Property". In Crenshaw, Kimberlé. Critical Race Theory: The Key Writings that Formed the Movement. New York: The New Press. p. 286. ISBN 1-56584-271-5.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Just because people are allowed to do something does not mean they are not discouraged.

The ability to pull your pants up and let the haters hate isn't a white male privilege, anyone can do it.

Even if they ran few would vote for them anyway.

Democracy is an honest but ugly bitch sometimes. That could be considered white male privilege.

If that were the case and it were really important to me I'd leave my ultra racist/sexist community and seek one not so bigoted.

I was defining it.

You seem to keep confusing generic bigotry with white privilege.

"white privilege" would imply some kind of benefit one receives just for being white.

There use to be gentleman's clubs (not strip clubs) where one of the requisite was you had to be white. Another was you had to be male.

Private clubs are private. They get to manage their associations however they see fit. Always have always will and white men aren't the only people allowed to do this so I don't see how it's white male privilege.

Again, closing off the opportunities to network and socialize.

Nobody is entitled to crashing a private club meeting. The private club has the right to tell the public, haters and whiners to all fuck off. 1A rights....freedom of association.

Oh and there are still groups of idiots that think minorities are less than Caucasians in every way and should be separated. As long as one of those fuckers is alive you will have some pocket of White privilege.

See this again is general racism.

If racist douch like RobDownSouth calls me a gook.....that doesn't mean white boys get some up in life for being born white.