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So for two months one year one city in the UK had a higher murder rate than one city in the US. And you think this proves some sort of point?
Yep I did but take a look at this:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...me-teenagers-statistics-figures-a8286866.html
It proves the point that with 1/4 of the US population, your largest city has a murder rate equal to one of the most crime ridden cities in the US.
Yet, like most progressives, you ignore this data in order to deny reality because you want to believe that somehow the rest of the year will be murder free in London. That way the murder rate will roughly equal to prior years. As if that's going to happen.
Which also proves another point - there's one on the tip of the dunce cap you wear with such pride.
It proves the point that with 1/4 of the US population, your largest city has a murder rate equal to one of the most crime ridden cities in the US.
Yet, like most progressives, you ignore this data in order to deny reality because you want to believe that somehow the rest of the year will be murder free in London. That way the murder rate will roughly equal to prior years. As if that's going to happen.
Which also proves another point - there's one on the tip of the dunce cap you wear with such pride.
What part of "for two months" did you not understand, Timmeh?
You talk incessantly about ignorin' data now you're determined to use a single two-month period out of a years worth of data because it somehow "proves" your point.
That's pretty stupid, even for you.
Try and keep up with the class, m'kay?
It's called sampling. London and New York are the larges cities in their respective
countries and close to the same size. For the last two months, London had a higher murder rate. This may or may not be a trend; we won't know for a few months yet.
Those who encourage intersectionality theory and the new wave of Western feminists contributed to this too. Not just the far Right.
I've been giving it a lot of thought, because it's happening everywhere and I, too could eventually become a target.
I think that both the far right and the far left contributed to it.
The far right - it's already been discussed here.
As to the far left:
in an era of massive immigration when White locals will gradually become a minority:
-on one hand they encourage splitting on ethnic/religious identity lines, and they encourage minorities to talk about their identities
- but they censor and villify any discussion about White or Christian identity.
Such open discussions and reframing of issues around common national values could also engage fringe elements, instead of alienating and angering them.
This guy (I listened to a podcast, interestingly he's of mixed Chinese Hispanic Jewish heritage) described things well.
https://www.amazon.com/Whiteshift-Populism-Immigration-Future-Majorities/dp/1468316974
Historically, the murder rate in NYC far outpaces London. The two months in question...out of the past 12 years (144 months) show London murders exceeding NYC by exactly ONE murder per month for those two months.
Sorry, I'm not buying what you're selling.
The BBC explains it more succinctly HERE
The rate of killings so far this year in London is higher than it was during the same period last year.
Lol, keep on being delusional, it's classic fail. We'd miss you if you ever decided to change and start thinking like a normal person.
BTW, from your linky:
We give BotanyBoy a little leeway on Maths because he took a bullet to the head while drinking with his Army buddies in Africa
Context dear Timmeh, context.
The murder rate in London IS trending upward.
The murder rate in New York City IS trending downward.
2 months out of 144 months is, in terms of statistics, still a very small sample.
In March, the number of murders in London exceeded that of NYC by exactly one person
In April, the number of murders in London exceeded that of NYC again by exactly one person.
If you want to draw a conclussion (sic) from that, you are welcome to try....just don't take it personally when we all laugh at your ignorance of statistics.
We give Queew a little leeway on Maths because his underdeveloped lungs failed to deliver enough oxygen to his brain during his first few formative days after birth.
We give BotanyBoy a little leeway on Maths because he took a bullet to the head while drinking with his Army buddies in Africa
You, however, have no excuse for your lack of understanding of statistics.
"Gun violence?"
What does that mean?
"Gun violence?"
What does that mean?
Really? Is that true?
Try Google. Top hit for every news outlet except fox.
Sometimes on a Friday night I'll have a few to many and slap my shotgun around a little.
What the analytics point out is that NYC has been on the decline for the past decade and London has been on the increase in the same time frame. The lines of intersection have crossed and trends are headed in opposite directions in respect to their starting points.
Again, what does it mean?
If you get shot while burglarizing a home by the startled homeowner, is that "gun VIOLENCE!?"
What about suicide by cop?
What about people shot by cops in the commission of a felony?
Are suicides "gun violence?" Can I loan you a gun?
How about accidental discharge deaths? How are we going to get smarter humans if we discourage darwinian* evolution?
Is the violent death by gun of a gang member with a long list of violent felonies, likely at the hand of a rival felon something we as a society should mourn, or celebrate?
Specifically which, of the above categories accounted for the increase in "gun violence?"
How is gun violence particularly more heinous than say hammer violence?
How has this increase in so called "gun violence" that we are currently experiencing managed to reverse the progress in violence reduction we as a society have enjoyed since we started mass incarcerations as championed by progressives like Hillary Cli ton who warned us of black super-predators and Joe Biden who used to brag about "his" tough on crime bill which directly led to the incarceration rates we have enjoyed?
I have lots and lots of questions but it seems to me most of the Google returns seem to be glossing over these sort of questions. Why is that? You don't suppose Google is anti-gun and pro violence are they?
You made such an authoritative, declarative statement about this increase, I naturally assumed you would have knowledgeable answers to my queries.
My mistake; I apologize.
*Yes! The addition to auto-corect was successful so I no longer need suffer the ignominious shame of an epic <sic> fail.
Again, what does it mean?
If you get shot while burglarizing a home by the startled homeowner, is that "gun VIOLENCE!?"
What about suicide by cop?
What about people shot by cops in the commission of a felony?
Are suicides "gun violence?" Can I loan you a gun?
How about accidental discharge deaths? How are we going to get smarter humans if we discourage darwinian* evolution?
Is the violent death by gun of a gang member with a long list of violent felonies, likely at the hand of a rival felon something we as a society should mourn, or celebrate?
Specifically which, of the above categories accounted for the increase in "gun violence?"
How is gun violence particularly more heinous than say hammer violence?
How has this increase in so called "gun violence" that we are currently experiencing managed to reverse the progress in violence reduction we as a society have enjoyed since we started mass incarcerations as championed by progressives like Hillary Cli ton who warned us of black super-predators and Joe Biden who used to brag about "his" tough on crime bill which directly led to the incarceration rates we have enjoyed?
I have lots and lots of questions but it seems to me most of the Google returns seem to be glossing over these sort of questions. Why is that? You don't suppose Google is anti-gun and pro violence are they?
You made such an authoritative, declarative statement about this increase, I naturally assumed you would have knowledgeable answers to my queries.
My mistake; I apologize.
*Yes! The addition to auto-corect was successful so I no longer need suffer the ignominious shame of an epic <sic> fail.
How about putting the barrel in your mouth and pulling the trigger, that way we can enjoy an example of it. Thanks in advance.