Are you a Democrat or Republican?

[Fagin]

You wouldn't know anything about loyalty. It's true.

Far more than your hate filled anger will allow you to ever see or learn.

 

[alabama]

Its a two party system and anyone who isn't a staunch Democrat or republican can kiss my ass.

I should say its a 2.5 party system because take all you green and indie losers out of the mix and we actually might get some straight talk from politicians instead of this namby pamby fence sitting mom commital bullshit.

The reason it is a two party system is because the two parties won't change the rules.

In order for another party to receive the government funding & to be placed on the ballot automatically, they must receive 5% of the general vote. (That statement might not be 100% correct, but it is the general point) This just doesn't happen. Especially when we were in the same situation we were in the last two presidential elections. We were put in a damned if you do damned if you don't situation. We no longer want to "waste" our vote after the whole Nader thing. It is scary.

FROM WIKIPEDIA:​

Aside from the mechanics of winner-take-all, the Electoral College, and the use of primaries, third parties are hampered by restrictive ballot access laws that force them to spend the bulk of their resources just to get on the ballot. Such obstacles include the requirement in several states that third party candidates obtain thousands of signatures of registered voters in order to get their candidates listed on the ballot. If they manage to get on the ballot, third party candidates are often not allowed. Socialist Party leader Morris Hillquist said in 1910 that America's presidential system has a role in hurting third party chances even further down the ticket.

In the United States the ticket handed to the voter contains the names not only of candidates for state legislature or congress, but also for all local and state officers and even for President of the United States. And since the new party rarely seems to have the chance or prospect of electing its candidate for governor of a state or president of the country, the voter is inclined in advance to consider its entire ticket as hopeless. The fear of 'throwing away' the vote is thus a peculiar product of American politics, and it requires a voter of exceptional strength of conviction to overcome." (Ibid 202)
Because of the difficulties third parties face in gaining any representation, third parties tend to exist to promote a specific issue or personality, often an issue which either or both of the major parties may eventually end up co-opting. As a counterexample, H. Ross Perot eventually founded a third party, the Reform Party, but he apparently intended it to exist solely as a vehicle to support himself and his agenda and never intended it to field any Congressional or Governatorial candidates. In 1912, Theodore Roosevelt made a spirited run for the presidency on the Progressive Party ticket, but he never made any efforts to help Progressive congressional candidates in 1914, and in 1916 he supported the Republicans. The next third party candidate to win a major portion of the popular vote was independent Ross Perot, who won 18.87% of the popular vote in the 1992 Presidential election.

There have been few third party governors in the past few decades. The last was Jesse Ventura, a member of the Reform Party and later the Minnesota Independence Party, who governed Minnesota from 1999-2003.

One way in which third parties can influence elections in certain jurisdictions in the United States (notably New York state) is through electoral fusion




QUIT being so damn crabby.

 

[RoryN]

Independent isn't a new buzzword.

Neither is "scapegoat".

 

[alabama]

Right. Me and President Bill Clinton have ruined the world with words and a BJ.

I dare say if there was more talking and more BJ's we'de all be better off, but you guys keep doing what your doing. You're doing a wonderful job.

What kind of answer is that?

 

[Killswitch]

QUIT being so damn crabby.

Dont be going LT and copying and pasting. Real talk only in my threads.

I aughta put you over my knee.

 

[alabama]

Dont be going LT and copying and pasting. Real talk only in my threads.

I aughta put you over my knee.

I didn't go to LT. I FOUND that myself.

Quit being an ass.

 

[Fagin]

Neither is "scapegoat".

Yet that misspelling is the only scapegoat you could come up for your flawed argument.

 

[RoryN]

The reason it is a two party system is because the two parties won't change the rules.

In order for another party to receive...

Now you're cutting-and-pasting from Wikipedia without disclosing the source?

 

[alabama]

Now you're cutting-and-pasting from Wikipedia without disclosing the source?

You just keep finding new ways to disappoint us.

I didn't know that was a RULE. Did you not see my request?

 

[MagicaPractica]

"You would prefer one cheese? And one cheeseburger to put it on?"
"I'm saying I like the cheese. Jeez! What side of the train did you wake up on?"

LOL

 

[kbate]

Neither.

What a crock of shite poll.

It's a two party system because you people are too sheeplike to step outside of standardised political thinking and risk actually changing something.

Democrats haven't had a new idea since 1938. Republicans since 1865. Why the hell would I want to be part of their shite.

 

[RoryN]

I didn't know that was a RULE.

So, if it wasn't a rule, would you still do it?

Yet that misspelling is the only scapegoat you could come up for your flawed argument.

"Escape goat" is not a misspelling of "scapegoat". It's an over-the-top, hilarious fuck up made by someone in the midst of telling someone else how stupid they are. And you'll never live it down.

 

[Killswitch]

"You would prefer one cheese? And one cheeseburger to put it on?"
"I'm saying I like the cheese. Jeez! What side of the train did you wake up on?"

LOL

The Left side.

Obviously.

 

[alabama]

So, if it wasn't a rule, would you still do it?

In this case, yes.

What is your problem, anyway? (This answer aught to be fascinating....)

 

[Fagin]

"Escape goat" is not a misspelling of "scapegoat". It's an over-the-top, hilarious fuck up made by someone in the midst of telling someone else how stupid they are. And you'll never live it down.

And you wear it as a badge of your only escape from the idiotic thought you had. Enjoy.

 

[Fabala]

I didn't go to LT. I did that myself.

But you did c/p it from Wikipedia, right?

I'm not saying that to be bitchy, just confused about the "I did it myself" thing.

 

[alabama]

But you did c/p it from Wikipedia, right?

I'm not saying that to be bitchy, just confused about the "I did it myself" thing.

Geez. I meant I found it myself. I edited to show the source awhile ago.....

 

[MagicaPractica]

The Left side.

Obviously.

Well, following that "train" of thought, dems and reps must be equally divided or the train would tip over, right? Right?

 

[rosco rathbone]

false dichotomy

 

[Lost Cause]

LIBERTARIAN for over 20 years.

www.lp.org

http://www.benet.org/teachers/ENoel/assets/images/libertarian_party.jpg

 

[alabama]

I vote Libertarian every time they are an option.

 

[RoryN]

And...

Go tend to those goats. They're escape goats, you know. Crafty.

In this case, yes.

Good to know. We'll link back to this justification for plagiarism if we ever see you going on in length about any other subject. Just to keep you honest.

 

[alabama]

Go tend to those goats. They're escape goats, you know. Crafty.



Good to know. We'll link back to this justification for plagiarism if we ever see you going on in length about any other subject. Just to keep you honest.

Please do. But when you do this, please quote me EXACTLY and in the correct context. Don't try & pull your usual bullshit.

I love how you ignore everything else.....

 

[unregistered]

 

[RoryN]

Please do. But when you do this, please quote me EXACTLY and in the correct context.

Oh - you mean your edited context?

Give me a break. Every time I use someone's words against them, they claim I "misconstrue" them. You plagiarized and got caught by more than one person. Quit whining.

Some folks can't see anything beyond the end of their nose and richly deserve all that results from such shortsightedness.

The premise of this thread is shortsighted, yes.

But KS is also right (much as I hate to admit it) about some cookie-cutter Conservatives giving themselves more desirable labels. Especially right now.