Are you a Democrat or Republican?

[perks]

registered Dem, but if I make a few million, I'll switch.

 

[Lost Cause]

"you can't commit and you're sitting on the fence?"

It seems like a lot of people are "Black or White" in their political theory...

In the motorcycle rights community, we have both sides supporting our mission.....but their one defining trait must be for the Constitutional belief in individual freedom even though their parties may not share the same..

The only hurdle after that is the Medical/Insurance complex and the gullibility of the average American for their BS....

 

[John Doe]

Lack of thinking on their part maybe? I certainly have convictions but they're formed not by a National Party, but by me. I don't know why some can't see independent thinking as just that, independent thinking.

It was a rhetorical question.

 

[Fagin]

I wonder sometimes how people manage to say shit like that without thier brains turning inside out.

This is one of the few times I agree with Stup.

Maybe their brains are already turned inside out?

That is evident by post #8 in this thread.

 

[master_bates]

I dont get it.

 

[John Doe]

This is one of the few times I agree with Stup.

http://static.flickr.com/13/18191593_bac6cd5e8a_m.jpg

 

[Fagin]

I dont get it.

It? Sex? I don't get it either but of course I'm fugly.

 

[Fagin]

http://www.snowblink.co.uk/images/food/nemosushi.jpg

I have and have used that one on many occasions.

Could you find one of Nemo dealing with sex?

 

[John Doe]

I have and have used that one on many occasions.

Could you find one of Nemo dealing with sex?

Why, are you a fish pedo?

 

[MechaBlade]

Im not giving you the chance to say you're this new buzzword...Independant. If you cant get off the fence, and have non commital issues then I'll consider you a republican.

Im convinced, although I cant fathom why, that there are more republicans here than Democrats.

I dont care why you are what you are.

I just wanna see names.

If I choose between the two, then I'm a Democrat because I believe sites like this should be allowed to exist.

Independent is hardly "new" or a "buzzword."

 

[Fagin]

Why, are you a fish pedo?

Nope.

 

[Cathleen]

It was a rhetorical question.

lol sometimes in my head there are no rhetorical questions - I know, it's not a good thing.

It's rhetoric that gets politicians in trouble isn't it?

 

[John Doe]

lol sometimes in my head there are no rhetorical questions - I know, it's not a good thing.

It's rhetoric that gets politicians in trouble isn't it?

No, it's kinky/gay sex and kiddie porn that get politicians in trouble.

Well, that and lying about it later.

 

[John Doe]

Nope.

Then why do you want pics of Nemo "dealing with sex"?

 

[alabama]

Then why do you want pics of Nemo "dealing with sex"?

Cause it would be hawt silly! Have you not seen the fabulous Shrek post? Come on....

 

[John Doe]

Cause it would be hawt silly! Have you not seen the fabulous Shrek post? Come on....

Yeah, but Shrek is a consenting adult. Nemo is a little kiddie fish.

 

[alabama]

Yeah, but Shrek is a consenting adult. Nemo is a little kiddie fish.

That is what would make it so good....

 

[Moxon4]

It's far from throwing your vote away, it's letting those in power know what you believe in. Voting for one of the two just because they may be the only viable candidate doesn't let the "winner" know how you feel and only lets them think you feel like they do. That is throwing your vote away.

If John Q. Smith (Dingleberry Party) runs on a platform different than the big two and loses with 28% of the vote, don't you think that will get noticed by those in office?

Without that notice and support the formation of a third or fourth party won't have a chance of becoming a reality because people were 'throwing their vote away' instead of stating what they want/expect from their elected representatives.

So he got 28% of the vote, the people who will care is the party that he took the votes away from, and when John Q. Smith doesn't run again in 2 years they'll get those votes back, because there is no party structure to help him the next time around

 

[Image]

I'm not registered as either. I haven't voted in any election, be it national or local, in 30 years. I don't concern myself with it, period...

I think Bush is a joking moron, but doesn't everyone?

 

[kbate]

so voting 3rd party is throwing away your vote until they can really get people elected

I laugh every time I hear this ridiculous statement. Throwing my vote away would be to vote for a Republican or Democrat that I do not want to win - only because a third party candidate is unlikely to win.

I vote for third party candidates because they represent the view I want for the country. I do not vote for them to make a point or even thinking they will win, but I will not vote for a candidate from a major party who does not represent my ideals, simply because I want to be on the "winning" side.

 

[Fagin]

So he got 28% of the vote, the people who will care is the party that he took the votes away from, and when John Q. Smith doesn't run again in 2 years they'll get those votes back, because there is no party structure to help him the next time around

Voting for someone in the big two, because they are the only ones that have a real chance of getting elected, over someone you support helps that third party gain support and structure how? Throwing your vote away to the big two when you support the no way in hell they would win party candidate does nothing for your ideas. It's the exact thinking you are displaying that one of the third/fourth/etc parties are in the position they are in.

 

[Lost Cause]

"throwing away your vote"

What is freedom without choice?

In America, you have the freedom to win or lose by your own choice..

"A vote is like a rifle; its usefulness depends upon the character of the user. "

Theodore Roosevelt

 

[kbate]

So he got 28% of the vote, the people who will care is the party that he took the votes away from, and when John Q. Smith doesn't run again in 2 years they'll get those votes back, because there is no party structure to help him the next time around

The took votes away from argument is the second great laugher.

Greens are not stealing Democrats votes, Libertarians and Independents are not stealing Republican votes. Those voters are voting for their candidate, they are not hurting anyone. The entire 'took votes' theory is nothing more than press tripe to convince people to stick to the two party system.

Voting is not a Zero sum activity. People actually have free choice.

or you can vote big 2 and join the sheep.

 

[Moxon4]

The took votes away from argument is the second great laugher.

Greens are not stealing Democrats votes, Libertarians and Independents are not stealing Republican votes. Those voters are voting for their candidate, they are not hurting anyone. The entire 'took votes' theory is nothing more than press tripe to convince people to stick to the two party system.

Voting is not a Zero sum activity. People actually have free choice.

or you can vote big 2 and join the sheep.

Are you serious? It's obvious that third parties always take votes away from another party. Voting isn't zero sum, but it's close because people who vote are likely to vote again, and it's rare that people go from not voting for many years to voting.

The way to effect the big two parties is to get involved in primaries and in through the convention process, the grassroots level is wide open, and it's really easy to get involved.

 

[alabama]

Are you serious? It's obvious that third parties always take votes away from another party. Voting isn't zero sum, but it's close because people who vote are likely to vote again, and it's rare that people go from not voting for many years to voting.

The way to effect the big two parties is to get involved in primaries and in through the convention process, the grassroots level is wide open, and it's really easy to get involved.

How can they take votes away if the votes weren't intended for said party?