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RoryN said:
Oh - you mean your edited context?

Give me a break. Every time I use someone's words against them, they claim I "misconstrue" them. You plagiarized and got caught by more than one person. Quit whining.
Think what you want & keep avoiding the real issues. Me, quit whining? Coming from you that is rich. I just don't like when people make bullshit up. Yes, I forgot to name the source. As soon as it was pointed out I fiixed my fuck up. You can take that however you want & you will. But it was only an honest mistake. Get a life.
 
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120 days left to vote~educate not legislate..

The trick is to convince a party that is closest to your convictions to change their course to more of a Libertarian direction.......
Libertarians are a cross of all parties...before they know it their more Libertarian than Republicrat or Demmunist.

(Washington, D.C.) On February 1, congressional Democrats, led by Rep. Obey of Wisconsin, introduced a bill, H.R. 4694, that would end viable, third-party competition in races for the U.S. House of Representatives.

The bill, ironically named the "Let the People Decide Clean Campaign Act," would mandate public funds (taken from the U.S. Treasury) to candidates for the House of Representatives and forbid candidates from taking private funds such as contributions from individual donors.

The ambiguously-written bill provides funds for candidates of the "two major parties" but essentially scuttles any campaign efforts of third-party or independent candidates.
http://www.lp.org/media/article_284.shtml

June 29th was the LP convention in Portland..
http://www.lp.org/media/article_364.shtml

Ron Paul is an excellent example..http://www.house.gov/paul/

This is a small example what it'd be like in a Libertarian environment..

http://www.lp.org/lpnews/article_950.shtml
http://www.lp.org/lpnews/article_892.shtml
http://www.lp.org/lpnews/article_915.shtml
 
Killswitch said:
Well for as much as I loathe republicans , at least they have chosen sides.

I find it hard to believe anyone can be undecided in todays socio-political climate.

Sounds like a bunch of people with their heads in the sand or waiting to see which way the wind blows.
This is ironcially funny KS. You and others that vote party lines have no reason to think. The rest of us study and give thoughtful consideration to these very important issues. You take a mind-vacation instead.
 
sweetalabama said:
Me, quit whining? Coming from you that is rich. I just don't like when people make bullshit up. Yes, I forgot to name the source. As soon as it was pointed out I fiixed my fuck up. You can take that however you want & you will. But it was only an honest mistake.

We all saw the context; no way that was an "honest" mistake. You're trying to write checks your brain can't cash via cut-and-paste.

sweetalabama said:
Think what you want & keep avoiding the real issues.

Oh please, enlighten me. What "real issues" am I avoiding?
 
Killswitch said:
I dont care who's running for what. You could cut my arm off and I'd never vote for a republican.

Im considering not working for anyone who is a republican, and or pretty much resolved to the fact that Id never date one.


word.
 
RoryN said:
We all saw the context; no way that was an "honest" mistake. You're trying to write checks your brain can't cash via cut-and-paste.



Oh please, enlighten me. What "real issues" am I avoiding?
You are going to think what you want non matter what. I know the truth & and do not need to defend myself anymore, shouldn't have in the first place.

I am not going to waste my time trying to argue with you. Yes, you will take this as success. No, it is not.

Maybe some other time.

BTW....do you even know the definition of honest?
 
vetteman said:
Some folks can't see anything beyond the end of their nose and richly deserve all that results from such shortsightedness. :rolleyes:
The huge problem with such behavior is WE all feel the consequences, good or not.

I think our system is outdated and definitely too full of hate for the world we live in now. Not sure where we're headed, I am not qualified or educated enough to speak to it but my gut says we need changes, a lot of them. It is so confusing to me to the point of not knowing what works if anything.
 
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sweetalabama said:
You are going to think what you want non matter what. I know the truth & and do not need to defend myself anymore, shouldn't have in the first place.

I am not going to waste my time trying to argue with you. Yes, you will take this as success. No, it is not.

Maybe some other time.

BTW....do you even know the definition of honest?

What happened to those "real issues", again? Did they fly away?
 
I'm a registered Democrat, third generation, but I vote my conscience. I think Maine's senators, both Republican, are terrific and I'd vote for McCain over Kerry...

Didn't vote for Dubya though and I ain't votin for Jeb if and when he runs!
 
"I think our system is outdated and definitely full of hate for the world"

A prime candidate for the Demmunists.....lets not fix the system, lets dismantle it for a failed system that allows only two classes.......One Party, and Providers for that party's power...
 
I'm a Republican

We'll always have a 2 party system unless some issue allows a party to take control (like the Republicans did by going agianst slavery) of if a third party can get beyond one inspirational leader, and actually put a party machine in place that is sustainable, that is what holds 3rd parties back
 
Killswitch said:
...Im considering not working for anyone who is a republican...

So you'd ask that in a job interview?

Or, if a wealthy client came along who could use your company's services, you'd ask his or her politics first?

Rich.

I haven't voted in the poll as I tend not to be solidly one or the other, and sometimes neither. I have changed my party affiliation several times.
 
Moxon4 said:
I'm a Republican

We'll always have a 2 party system unless some issue allows a party to take control (like the Republicans did by going agianst slavery) of if a third party can get beyond one inspirational leader, and actually put a party machine in place that is sustainable, that is what holds 3rd parties back
We'll always have the "two party system" as long as people think that they will be throwing their vote away if they vote for someone other than a Republican or a Democrat.
 
Lost Cause said:
A prime candidate for the Demmunists.....lets not fix the system, lets dismantle it for a failed system that allows only two classes.......One Party, and Providers for that party's power...
The whole idea overwhelms my mind -- good thing I'm not a political scientist huh? ;)

Where would one start? What changes are needed? Way over my head in this discussion, but hearing from those qualified would be interesting.
 
Fagin said:
We'll always have the "two party system" as long as people think that they will be throwing their vote away if they vote for someone other than a Republican or a Democrat.

But that's my point, without a full party structure there is no point in voting for a 3rd party candidate, they can't get anything done even if elected. If Perot wins in 1992 he still wouldn't have been able to implement what he wanted because he wouldn't have had support from either party in congress, so voting 3rd party is throwing away your vote until they can really get people elected
 
Cathleen said:
The whole idea overwhelms my mind -- good thing I'm not a political scientist huh? ;)

Where would one start? What changes are needed? Way over my head in this discussion, but hearing from those qualified would be interesting.

To get a 3rd party we'd just have to change elections from winner takes all to representative, like how it's done in most of Europe, then smaller parties can have seats despite how only 2% of the votes get for them.
 
Why is it if your views don't necessarily perfectly align with what people think are democratic or republican opinions that you can't commit and you're sitting on the fence?
 
Stuponfucious said:
Why is it if your views don't necessarily perfectly align with what people think are democratic or republican opinions that you can't commit and you're sitting on the fence?
Lack of thinking on their part maybe? I certainly have convictions but they're formed not by a National Party, but by me. I don't know why some can't see independent thinking as just that, independent thinking.
 
Moxon4 said:
But that's my point, without a full party structure there is no point in voting for a 3rd party candidate, they can't get anything done even if elected. If Perot wins in 1992 he still wouldn't have been able to implement what he wanted because he wouldn't have had support from either party in congress, so voting 3rd party is throwing away your vote until they can really get people elected
It's far from throwing your vote away, it's letting those in power know what you believe in. Voting for one of the two just because they may be the only viable candidate doesn't let the "winner" know how you feel and only lets them think you feel like they do. That is throwing your vote away.

If John Q. Smith (Dingleberry Party) runs on a platform different than the big two and loses with 28% of the vote, don't you think that will get noticed by those in office?

Without that notice and support the formation of a third or fourth party won't have a chance of becoming a reality because people were 'throwing their vote away' instead of stating what they want/expect from their elected representatives.
 
Moxon4 said:
voting 3rd party is throwing away your vote until they can really get people elected

I wonder sometimes how people manage to say shit like that without thier brains turning inside out.
 
Stuponfucious said:
I wonder sometimes how people manage to say shit like that without thier brains turning inside out.
Maybe their brains are already turned inside out?
 
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