Banning private schools.

[LukSkyFokker]

You send your kid there, and pay when you enroll him/her, just like you would at a private school.

We already have private schools. You really need to stop day drinking because your shit is fucked up.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Pass number two

See, because the objective of the left is not to educate kids, but to keep the government schools chock full of money.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

We already have private schools. You really need to stop day drinking because your shit is fucked up.

And if you want to send your progeny off to them, have at it.

If not, you'd have a voucher in your pocket to send him to a private school.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Yep, pretty much. There is a movement by folks who send their kids to private school to get out of paying public school taxes. The whining movement.

1. Private school will never be banned....it's unconstitutional (period).

2. You will have to pay your public.school tax even if you pay for private school(suck it up buttercup).

While I don't expect to see them banned what exactly is unconstitutional about it? I see this term thrown around all the time and nobody seems to be able to point me to the line that supports this or that. I don't know what part says I can't mandate vaccines. I don't know the part that states I can't shut down private schools. I can't find the part says I can demand you get a license before you go fishing or hunting deer though clearly I can. I don't know what part of it references abortion or even health care, can you please educate me?

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Idiotic, even for you. Those 70% of black kids in CA graduate, but they can't read. So what good is the diploma?

You need to provide a cite for that. A public school doesn't get to decide that, the state decides what benchmarks a student has to hit to graduate.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

And if you want to send your progeny off to them, have at it.

If not, you'd have a voucher in your pocket to send him to a private school.

You're a fuckin' mess, Dud. Sleep it off.

 

[bellisarius]

Idiotic, even for you. Those 70% of black kids in CA graduate, but they can't read. So what good is the diploma?

The state of Washington recently passed a law that competency in reading and math were no longer a requirement for graduation. The reason given was that blacks, latins, pacific islanders, and native americans can't pass the tests.

Based on that rational we are forced to accept one of two possibilities. Either those groups are too damn stupid to learn or the schools are failing in their charter. Me? I'm going with school failure.

 

[Cubantripod]

Lol...hard pass

I would expect nothing less you.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

You need to provide a cite for that. A public school doesn't get to decide that, the state decides what benchmarks a student has to hit to graduate.

I seem to have understated the CA government schools' incompetence...it's actually 75%

https://calmatters.org/education/20...-california-boys-dont-meet-reading-standards/

 

[Sean Renaud]

I'm genuinely curious what percent of people get out of high school without being able to read. MAybe not read at whatever is considered grade level but unless you're getting into technical stuff pretty much anything beyond a 5th grade level is a bit excessive. Don't get me wrong, I think reading is important, I'm just only so concerned if you can't read a chemistry book or if you literally have to look up every third word in a history text.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

The state of Washington recently passed a law that competency in reading and math were no longer a requirement for graduation. The reason given was that blacks, latins, pacific islanders, and native americans can't pass the tests.

Based on that rational we are forced to accept one of two possibilities. Either those groups are too damn stupid to learn or the schools are failing in their charter. Me? I'm going with school failure.

There's not a single race singled out in the bill, liar, and your grasp of the English language leads us to believe you were homeschooled.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

The state of Washington recently passed a law that competency in reading and math were no longer a requirement for graduation. The reason given was that blacks, latins, pacific islanders, and native americans can't pass the tests.

Based on that rational we are forced to accept one of two possibilities. Either those groups are too damn stupid to learn or the schools are failing in their charter. Me? I'm going with school failure.

Same here. The military takes these kids and turns them into capable technicians and specialists. They can learn, but the schools don't care because they all get paid whether they can read or not.

 

[Cubantripod]

Same here. The military takes these kids and turns them into capable technicians and specialists. They can learn, but the schools don't care because they all get paid whether they can read or not.

The military use to go after those kids because the A & B students were going to college. The military is now recruiting the A & B students. Many kids who need the discipline and structure still go, but many who could use it will never know that the military was an option.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

I seem to have understated the CA government schools' incompetence...it's actually 75%

https://calmatters.org/education/20...-california-boys-dont-meet-reading-standards/

Not according to the article that you obviously didn't read. Maybe at some point in this thread you'll be right about something.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Not according to the article that you obviously didn't read. Maybe at some point in this thread you'll be right about something.

Yeah, I know your SOP. I was a fool for even responding to you.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Yeah, I know your SOP. I was a fool for even responding to you.

You were a fool for making a claim and then providing a link that showed you were wrong.

 

[ll74]

See, because the objective of the left is not to educate kids, but to keep the government schools chock full of money.

Public school = public funding
Private schools = private funding

/Fin

 

[ll74]

I would expect nothing less you.

Your perspective is ass backwards. You can't improve processes without resources to so so.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Public school = public funding
Private schools = private funding

/Fin

Nothing says it has to stay that way. And it shouldn't.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Your perspective is ass backwards. You can't improve processes without resources to so so.

Government school funding on a constant-dollar, per-student basis is about 3.5-4. times what it was in the 1960s. In the interim, schools have simply expanded admin and support staff and test scores have plummeted or remained flat.

If money made the difference, we'd have seen the results by now.

 

[ll74]

Government school funding on a constant-dollar, per-student basis is about 3.5-4. times what it was in the 1960s. In the interim, schools have simply expanded admin and support staff and test scores have plummeted or remained flat.

If money made the difference, we'd have seen the results by now.

Yes, your oversimplification continues to amaze

 

[bellisarius]

The military use to go after those kids because the A & B students were going to college. The military is now recruiting the A & B students. Many kids who need the discipline and structure still go, but many who could use it will never know that the military was an option.

That's based on two particular requirements.

Modern warfare is becoming evermore technical in nature. This requires individuals with an agile mind.

Further, to enter any of the services the applicant has to pass the AFQT test(s). This is a form of IQ test with a 2X emphasis on reading comprehension and a 1X emphasis on math. (The basis being that if you can read and write we can teach you math.) Easy to see that if the school system fails to teach those two basic skills there is no way that individual will have the services as an option.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Government school funding on a constant-dollar, per-student basis is about 3.5-4. times what it was in the 1960s. In the interim, schools have simply expanded admin and support staff and test scores have plummeted or remained flat.

If money made the difference, we'd have seen the results by now.

A lot of that is just flat out wrong.

Inflation has made the cost of everything go up since the 1960's.
Lots of that administrative expansion has come from right wing legislation, remember No Child Left Behind?
More kids are attending and graduating college now than in the 1960's.

This is just another example of something you know nothing about and don't have the skills and critical thinking to understand.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

Nothing says it has to stay that way. And it shouldn't.

Should an affluent kid get a better education than a poor kid at a public school?

 

[bellisarius]

A lot of that is just flat out wrong.

Inflation has made the cost of everything go up since the 1960's.
Lots of that administrative expansion has come from right wing legislation, remember No Child Left Behind?
More kids are attending and graduating college now than in the 1960's.

This is just another example of something you know nothing about and don't have the skills and critical thinking to understand.

Not right wing legislation, district consolidation. A phenomena that started immediately after the creation of the Dept. of Ed. The sale point was a bigger district would have more money and more money translated into better education..........it didn't work.

Re. attendance and graduation. A larger applicant population along with government backed loans (debt traps) insures that.