Basic rundown on all things Marquis

[BiBunny]

I'm highly overrated.

I can think of at least a half dozen times I was resisted in the last 4 years alone.

Hehe. The man, the myth, the legend.

 

[graceanne]

*oops* Didn't mean to hijack, sorry.

 

[Netzach]

Wow, so you are doing this in one house in one geographical location.

I have essentially decided that no matter how big my black book gets only M will ever live here. Toothbrushes and keys will be handed out periodically, but that's IT.

 

[esclave_PP]

As long as there is always OPEN and HONEST communication, poly can work. For poly to truly work, it takes a lot of energy and effort on everyone's part who's involved. And, it is best to be in the same locale. The minute that communication breaks down, mistrust ensues. So, unless you're prepared to really put out the energy, don't do it.

I understand your not wanting your females to have male lovers, but if in a true poly relationship, you'd allow that. But since D/s is involved, I see where you set that limit. I suppose if a Domme had 2 men would be the same deal, she may not want her little boy toys having female lovers either. Big picture seems unfair, but I can see your rationalization Marquis. BTDT.

 

[JMohegan]

Things are going well career wise, I recently finished my testing and class requirements to sell Insurance and Annuities and will soon be working with a family friend who makes mucho dinero doing just that.

Great news, Marquis. Congratulations! I bet you'd be a hell of a successful salesman no matter the product. But given the size of the personal financial planning industry, I'd say this could be the first step in a *very* lucrative career for you.

I'm also working part time as a...... get this..... professional body piercer. I'm licensed in that too, but I'm still in the apprentice phase. Piercing nipples seems like a pretty good way to make a few extra bucks on the side, so I'm pretty happy about that too.

Ha, ha, that's awesome!

Maybe you can start giving piercing demos at fetish events, too.

 

[Vessira]

I've tried this unsuccessfully before, with myself as the triad (lo in this case) joining an established pair. The biggest issue was of course the communicating between the two of them, and the female of the pair had some very big jealousy issues, so she put limits on what I was allowed to do with the male. Unfortunately, he and I had more much exposure to each other, for example, if I would come over for the night, she'd go to bed with a headache after an hour, and he and I would be up for the next 5-6 hours talking so he and I formed a much stronger bond. The hardest thing in these situations is having enough self-confidence to not doubt your position within the relationship, and being able to express your feelings and thoughts as difficulties come up, which they always will.

 

[Quint]

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[Marquis]

Wow, so you are doing this in one house in one geographical location.

I have essentially decided that no matter how big my black book gets only M will ever live here. Toothbrushes and keys will be handed out periodically, but that's IT.

Ha ha, yes.

Only two of us have the same address technically, and that may continue for a while.

 

[Marquis]

Great news, Marquis. Congratulations! I bet you'd be a hell of a successful salesman no matter the product. But given the size of the personal financial planning industry, I'd say this could be the first step in a *very* lucrative career for you.

We shall see. I've always been more lacking in drive than talent, hopefully I've grown up enough to do it right this time. Thanks for the well wishes.

Ha, ha, that's awesome!

Maybe you can start giving piercing demos at fetish events, too.

I'd love to.

 

[Marquis]

I've tried this unsuccessfully before, with myself as the triad (lo in this case) joining an established pair. The biggest issue was of course the communicating between the two of them, and the female of the pair had some very big jealousy issues, so she put limits on what I was allowed to do with the male. Unfortunately, he and I had more much exposure to each other, for example, if I would come over for the night, she'd go to bed with a headache after an hour, and he and I would be up for the next 5-6 hours talking so he and I formed a much stronger bond. The hardest thing in these situations is having enough self-confidence to not doubt your position within the relationship, and being able to express your feelings and thoughts as difficulties come up, which they always will.

Wise words, thanks a lot.

 

[Vessira]

Ha ha, yes.

Only two of us have the same address technically, and that may continue for a while.

Considering that, it would probably be wise to set aside individual time with just C because the fact that lo lives with you now C probably feels a bit left out. It's also wise if C and lo get a lot of individual time together until everyone is more accustomed to the situation.

 

[Marquis]

Cutiemouse, that's a whole side of your life I don't think I knew about. I very much hope that is not the fate that T and I will experience as "poly in theory" becomes "poly in practice"...good food for thought.

It really is good to be able to draw from the past experiences of others. I appreciate all the stories being told.

Marquis, very glad to hear from you! Life sounds challenging. I'm looking forward to more day-by-day of the Life With C And lo. (Is that a lower case L? I've been reading it as Io the whole time, as in the girl who Zeus turned into a cow to hide from Hera's wrath. It cast an interesting spin on the poly dynamic!)

Yes, it's a lower-case L, short for "little one", rhymes with "foe".

Hmm questions I have none at this point. Just feed us the minutiae, that's what really tells the tale for me.

Hmmm, let's see.....

For a while things were pretty uncomfortable. C would be super uptight when lo was around, which made lo and I feel like we were walking on eggshells constantly.

C and lo have characteristics that make it hard for them to communicate. lo is the kind of person who plays her cards very close to her chest. She tends to be pretty subtle and somewhat reserved. Not that she's shy or untalkative, but she's more comfortable addressing the needs of others than her own, for example.

C on the other hand, is kind of insensitive. Not in a malicious way, but she just tends to be really oblivious. The kind of person who could walk laughing into a room where someone just died and won't figure out that people are upset for ten minutes.

Because of that, I feel like I've had to step in as a communicator a lot, which has been a little annoying. Then again, lo has stepped in as a mediator between C and I quite a few times as well.

C has really relaxed a lot though and hopefully in time lo will start feeling more comfortable being more assertive and explicit with C.

Other than that, the sex (which is what we all really want to hear about, right?) has been pretty great. Lot's of room to grow though, which is a good thing. It's way easier to dominate either of them individually than it is to dominate both of them together. I have my ways though, and I do appreciate the challenge.

 

[Vessira]

Other than that, the sex (which is what we all really want to hear about, right?) has been pretty great. Lot's of room to grow though, which is a good thing. It's way easier to dominate either of them individually than it is to dominate both of them together. I have my ways though, and I do appreciate the challenge.

Care to elaborate?

 

[Marquis]

Considering that, it would probably be wise to set aside individual time with just C because the fact that lo lives with you now C probably feels a bit left out. It's also wise if C and lo get a lot of individual time together until everyone is more accustomed to the situation.

We had this conversation already, I'll keep you posted on how it goes.

 

[Quint]

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[Marquis]

Last I heard, C was somewhat skeptical of being bi...like she had to be talked into it. Is she more or less completely comfortable getting her g-on-g on or does she still have boundaries to push?

There are definitely boundaries to be pushed here, but she does seem to be enjoying herself. Her claims of being totally straight are starting to sound a little more sarcastic every time.

Of course, like most subs, every act of whorishness has some excuse, "it's all for you Sir!"

Are they comfortable being put in comparison situations? It's a humiliation hotspot for me, rife with fantasy potential. A thoughtful dicking with commentary, "hmm, looks like this one is wetter than that one."

That would be super fucking hot for me as well, but it's not territory I'm comfortable treading for right now.

 

[lil_slave_rose]

I've tried this unsuccessfully before, with myself as the triad (lo in this case) joining an established pair. The biggest issue was of course the communicating between the two of them, and the female of the pair had some very big jealousy issues, so she put limits on what I was allowed to do with the male. Unfortunately, he and I had more much exposure to each other, for example, if I would come over for the night, she'd go to bed with a headache after an hour, and he and I would be up for the next 5-6 hours talking so he and I formed a much stronger bond. The hardest thing in these situations is having enough self-confidence to not doubt your position within the relationship, and being able to express your feelings and thoughts as difficulties come up, which they always will.

see, this is the problem i have. Master and i have talked about having a second submissive, BUT He has given me the 'power' to make 'rules' for the other submissive and i'm not sure any other will want to follow those rules. LOL..yes i am a jealous bitch and i'm not sure if it would work out for us at all. they would not be 'allowed' to play sexually without me involved. she can have her time with Him, but sexually, no. it's something i feel i just couldn't handle emotionally. i would be 'alpha sub'. i will be Master's 'primary relationship' and yes second subbie will always come second.

i realize it will be really really hard to find someone to agree to all of the conditions, but it shouldn't be too hard to just find a play partner and that would be fine and dandy too.

 

[lil_slave_rose]

first, congrats Marquis on Your job. glad to hear it's all going well. i know that You don't know me much at all, but i enjoyed reading this thread. it really gives me a lot of food for thought for what to expect if this situation ever becomes reality for me and Master. it's just not something i'm sure i'll do ok with. i think i'd be like C in that i'd be very bitchy and make them both feel like they had to walk on eggshells around me. i know me, i'm very jealous. and i'm sure a pretty big part of C's problem is that lo lives with you, therefore she gets more of your time. that's got to be hard when you and C were a couple first. does that make sense? it's good that she's got a therapist that she can talk to about it all, a neutral party where she won't be judged and can just get out what she needs to get out without fear of being made to feel silly for feeling the way she feels. or even feel guilty for it.

like i said in an earlier post, i'm just not sure we'll ever find someone who will go with the conditions that have been set on this type of relationship for Master and i. i think we'll probably just stick to a play partner for every now and then more than another submissive living with us 24/7, but we shall see. i will keep reading this thread, it's interesting and i look forward to reading more!

 

[BiBunny]

Not picking on you, rose, but your post reflects something I've been thinking about lately. The whole alpha/beta (gamma, delta, epsilon, zeta, eta, theta...I was a sorority girl--don't make me bust out the Greek alphabet) sub thing irritates me. As a bi poly switch, I get emails from people on sites like CollarMe all the time from folks wanting me to join an existing couple. That's all fine and dandy, but I hate the way a lot of them think the new sub should be relegated to a position lower than the family dog just because some bitch has control issues.

My reasoning? If you're too jealous to handle me being a part of your relationship, for the love of God, just be monogamous! I don't have a jealous bone in my body, but I do expect to be treated like a human being. Nobody with an ounce of self-respect is going to put himself/herself in a situation where he/she is ALWAYS second to someone else. My feelings and needs have just as much validity as the next person's.

Again, dear, don't think I'm picking on you. It's just something I've noticed.

 

[lil_slave_rose]

Not picking on you, rose, but your post reflects something I've been thinking about lately. The whole alpha/beta (gamma, delta, epsilon, zeta, eta, theta...I was a sorority girl--don't make me bust out the Greek alphabet) sub thing irritates me. As a bi poly switch, I get emails from people on sites like CollarMe all the time from folks wanting me to join an existing couple. That's all fine and dandy, but I hate the way a lot of them think the new sub should be relegated to a position lower than the family dog just because some bitch has control issues.

My reasoning? If you're too jealous to handle me being a part of your relationship, for the love of God, just be monogamous! I don't have a jealous bone in my body, but I do expect to be treated like a human being. Nobody with an ounce of self-respect is going to put himself/herself in a situation where he/she is ALWAYS second to someone else. My feelings and needs have just as much validity as the next person's.

Again, dear, don't think I'm picking on you. It's just something I've noticed.

in her being second i didn't mean that her feelings/thoughts/ etc would not matter and that she would be treated worse than the family dog.....or that she would be neglected, i simply meant that me and Master's relationship would come first. and there would be conditions on the relationship her and Master would have such as no sexual activity without me involved. yea i realize there are not many out there who are willing to take on the type of relationship we are seeking with another, which is why i said we'll probably just end up with a play partner.

i do see what you're saying, but i did not intend my post to sound like i was saying the other would be treated terribly..not what i meant at all.....and i also know you were not picking on me

 

[BiBunny]

in her being second i didn't mean that her feelings/thoughts/ etc would not matter and that she would be treated worse than the family dog.....or that she would be neglected, i simply meant that me and Master's relationship would come first. and there would be conditions on the relationship her and Master would have such as no sexual activity without me involved. yea i realize there are not many out there who are willing to take on the type of relationship we are seeking with another, which is why i said we'll probably just end up with a play partner.

i do see what you're saying, but i did not intend my post to sound like i was saying the other would be treated terribly..not what i meant at all.....and i also know you were not picking on me

Good. I didn't want you to think I was. It's just amazing the kinds of things people will try to impose on others whom they don't even KNOW!

Poly's not for everyone, no matter how much Grand Wizard Master Poobah Of The Royal Clan FitzGilbert wants his subs to think it is. A lot of couples try to involve another person without really taking the time and effort necessary to make sure that everything is in everyone's best interests. I see soooo many times that Sally Subbie will go along with it to please Master, even though she's jealous and insecure and therefore does everything in her power to derail the relationship(s). Drives me batty. I think it was Da Brat who said, "If you can't stand the heat, get the fuck up out the kitchen."

 

[lil_slave_rose]

Good. I didn't want you to think I was. It's just amazing the kinds of things people will try to impose on others whom they don't even KNOW!

Poly's not for everyone, no matter how much Grand Wizard Master Poobah Of The Royal Clan FitzGilbert wants his subs to think it is. A lot of couples try to involve another person without really taking the time and effort necessary to make sure that everything is in everyone's best interests. I see soooo many times that Sally Subbie will go along with it to please Master, even though she's jealous and insecure and therefore does everything in her power to derail the relationship(s). Drives me batty. I think it was Da Brat who said, "If you can't stand the heat, get the fuck up out the kitchen."

oh i know poly is not for everyone. and i'm pretty sure it's not for me LOL...it's a nice theory and i like some of the ideas of it, BUT communism also looks good on paper

 

[liberatedslave]

Well, I have to say that despite my own freedom, I would have a real problem with my women taking on male lovers. I have my little ways of rationalizing it, but at the end of the day it makes me very very uncomfortable and that's that.

Of course, there isn't really anything I could do, should either want to do this, and I guess if she was honest and responsible about it I wouldn't break up with her, but it would be very difficult for me to feel the same way about her.

Typical. Sorry Marquis but my Sir and I were swapping fantasies and a 3some with me and another female sub is high on his list. I replied that I'd always had fantasies about DP and being spit roasted by 2 guys and the horror that passed across his face was indescribable. "Oh no." He said. "I couldn't ever share you with another man."

Where is the huge hang-up with this if everybody uses protection? Are you worried you'll have the smaller erection or something? Most men (especially doms IMO) have never made it completely out of the cave. [/rant]

 

[BiBunny]

oh i know poly is not for everyone. and i'm pretty sure it's not for me LOL...it's a nice theory and i like some of the ideas of it, BUT communism also looks good on paper

LOL, ain't that the truth?

 

[lil_slave_rose]

Typical. Sorry Marquis but my Sir and I were swapping fantasies and a 3some with me and another female sub is high on his list. I replied that I'd always had fantasies about DP and being spit roasted by 2 guys and the horror that passed across his face was indescribable. "Oh no." He said. "I couldn't ever share you with another man."

Where is the huge hang-up with this if everybody uses protection? Are you worried you'll have the smaller erection or something? Most men (especially doms IMO) have never made it completely out of the cave. [/rant]

*grins* Master is the SAME way.....