BBW or Fat Women

[SXCRgirl]

YPT -

Encouraging someone to make a change in their lifestyle is commendable. I don't think this is the question here. It is the manner in which you do it. You have attacked women who YOU do not consider desirable because of their weight. You have used the ugliest of stereotypes and made people feel like they don't count. THIS is the whole source of the problem.

You haven't encouraged anyone to think about making changes, all you've done is insulted them. Granted, I didn't bother reading all the other posts, but from the ones that I've read, everyone pretty much had the same opinion of you.

This isn't the Marine Corps. Telling someone that they're worthless isn't going to motivate them into doing what YOU think they ought to be doing.

 

[Shadowsong22]

Re: Re: Re: YPT is Correct

I hope I’ve made at least one person “uncomfortable” enough to try to change, and encouraged others to continue their efforts. It is worth it.

Just my two cents.....if someone is happy the way they are and happy with their life, that's fine. To go around and make people "uncomfortable" is a rather rude thing to do. I can see that you feel that you're doing the world or these woman a service. It's just not the case. Making people feel bad isn't the right way to go about doing anything in life. I'd say half the major issues in the world occur because someone thinks their opinion is more right than others. You have a right to your opinion but to make people "uncomfortable" just isn't fair to them. Everyone has a right to their own personal hapiness. It's no one's place to change that.

 

[Marilyth]

Fantastic point. I agree. I don't think it's a fat woman problem, I think it could be addressed as an obesity problem in general. I wish he hadn't targeted a certain group. Maybe if he wanted to genuinely help, he would have mentioned obesity in general, rather than focusing on women.

Speaking of which, why is it that obesity focuses meerly on women? A "fat" woman is perceived as unattractive, but a fat/overweight man is not? I've seen fat male porn stars, who could use some wax treatments, but do you see overweight women porn stars. It's all a misconception!

Only fat women have trouble fucking? What about fat men with bellies so big they cover their dicks? Are fat men ever afraid they are going to crush the poor little slender woman under them while they hunt around trying to hit the hole, because their belly is in the way and they can't see where they are going? This isn't a sexual problem? Or are we supposed to over look that because they are men?

 

[Marilyth]

Adding something...

I've noticed something. The original posting, as well as the numerous posts following by YPT have been commercialized. I recognize this so well, because I have been commericalized to for most of my life.

He asks many relevant questions for someone who is insecure about their weight. That's fine. I think he's choosing the wrong method and the wrong venue. I wonder if he realizes that most women on an erotic bulletin board are comfortable with themselves? If they weren't they wouldn't be here.

Next, I'm wondering (still) why he's focusing on women? Obesity is not a woman problem it's the nations problem. The United States is one of the "fattest" nations in the world. The average size for a woman is over 14. Has he noticed that Old Navy, The Gap, The Limited, have all increased their size offerings?

I know these things because I'm 6'2. I wear larger sizes, not because I find myself fat (I am overweight now, but haven't been all my life).

I have never been smaller than a size 12. When I was in the 6th grade, I was 5'10. I weighed 145 pounds. I couldn't wear a size 9/10. Why, because of my bone structure. I think it's a gross misconception that people can't wear "name brand clothing" because of their "fat". Some people can't wear "guess" because they're too tall, and guess didn't make tall clothes when I wore them. Oh, and since when is "guess" a popular brand? I thought that went out in the 80's when acid wash died.

My thought is, if this is a marketing ploy you really should probably take some time to investigate a marketing class, because the marketing that you're doing is not going to the proper consumer. I would check out some of the weight loss bulletin boards else where. I would also not focus on sex, because sex is a giant mystery. (I'm not even going there).

I don't intend to offend anyone. I support all the BBW's out there. I find that I am one. But I don't classify myself. I find that I am a beautiful woman. I am beautiful regardless of size, color, etc.

On a lighter note. He sounds a lot like those fundamental Christians who constantly try to convert those who don't believe the same as they do. Here's my thought on that...

If we all believed the same thing, looked the same way, there would be no variety in the world. We would all be VERY bored with out lives and would simply have the black & white Ozzie & Harriet lifestyle. I for one say, NO THANK YOU!!

Thanks to everyone who stood up for themselves and their belief systems!! It always makes me feel better about myself when others are helping out in that department.

Have a super day, and I hope that YPT thinks about his marketing strategies. I have this feeling, observing the consumers you've chosen, that you're not going to get anywhere. Please take the advice I've given you and find the appropriate manner in which to market your "product" and the proper audience.

Thanks!!

 

[Samantha E. Xanadu]

Oh, and Trainer, you might want to ask your therapist, or sponsor, or whoever it is who HAS to listen to you, if it's a good idea for you to be spending your time on an erotically oriented website.

Caroline, I was wondering the same thing. Thanks for saying it for me.

Sam

 

[DarkkSeduction]

ok enough already

it makes me kinda chuckle....do any of us bbw actually seem to be lacking in selfesteem ....i think not....Girls are lovely no matter the size its more in the attitude dear learn to accept people as they are and maybe you wont lack your own self esteem ....it is painfully obvious that you do...else you wouldnt need to announce btw* fat girls are no fun in bed and I know this because I am a sex addict* maybe your girls were no fun because you lacked the ability or time it takes to be a good lover...no matter the size of your partner

 

[Cipher]

Re: ok enough already

it makes me kinda chuckle....do any of us bbw actually seem to be lacking in selfesteem ....i think not....Girls are lovely no matter the size its more in the attitude dear learn to accept people as they are and maybe you wont lack your own self esteem ....it is painfully obvious that you do...else you wouldnt need to announce btw* fat girls are no fun in bed and I know this because I am a sex addict* maybe your girls were no fun because you lacked the ability or time it takes to be a good lover...no matter the size of your partner

Yeah..what she said!! LoL
I think we all have said our piece numerous times and yet getting the same message across..some people put other's down to make themselves feel better.

Have a good one ladies!!

 

[dreamer]

I agree that larger women aren't necessarily suffering from lack of self-esteme. I do know TOO many women do though. WAY too many. This is regardless of size.

Can't this thread die? BBW, not, redhead, blonde, bald, blue eyes or brown...I love them all. Women are beautiful.

Do you hear that gals!!?? YOU'RE BEAUTIFUL!!!!

What kinda sick twisted guys need to make them feel anything else?

 

[Cipher]

I agree that larger women aren't necessarily suffering from lack of self-esteme. I do know TOO many women do though. WAY too many. This is regardless of size.

Can't this thread die? BBW, not, redhead, blonde, bald, blue eyes or brown...I love them all. Women are beautiful.

Do you hear that gals!!?? YOU'RE BEAUTIFUL!!!!

What kinda sick twisted guys need to make them feel anything else?

*Hugz*

*Sigh*..Not everyone thinks like this unfortunatly.

I as well as you do think that ALL women are beautiful..*Chuckles*..i've even dated a few myself..LoL

Thanks dreamer for your awesome words

 

[Huggles]

Speaking of which, why is it that obesity focuses meerly on women? A "fat" woman is perceived as unattractive, but a fat/overweight man is not? I've seen fat male porn stars, who could use some wax treatments, but do you see overweight women porn stars. It's all a misconception!

Keh?

You belive this to be the case?

Well.. In reality, I find there are more larger women who have no problems getting dates, and a LOT of larger men who coulnd't get a date to save their lives!

I see thin guys with bigger women all the time. It's absolutely RARE to see a large man with a thin women.

 

[Marilyth]

Keh?

You belive this to be the case?

Well.. In reality, I find there are more larger women who have no problems getting dates, and a LOT of larger men who coulnd't get a date to save their lives!

I see thin guys with bigger women all the time. It's absolutely RARE to see a large man with a thin women.

You missed the point I think. The point was, why was said person who started this thread if he indeed is concerned about obesity as a "disease" rather than focusing on women only. Women aren't the only people with "fat" issues, men also have them too. Men, however, are more accepted than women where it comes to obesity. Look at many actors who are not the thin types.

I don't think dating comes into play either way. Yes I have seen larger men with thinner women, and vice versa. My point is that it's a universal issue, that it's NOT accepted that a woman is "fat", and that it shouldn't be an issue at all.

That's all! Sorry for the misunderstanding!

 

[Guest]

To be fat, or not to be fat....is that the question?

This post is probably going to make a lot of people mad; that’s not its intent. The intent is to make as many women who consider themselves BBW aware of the relation between excess weight and sexuality.

Let's see...we begin our little diatribe by saying that we KNOW that it will have some effect, then try to deny the effect, all in the same sentence. Seems a bit pretentious, but perhaps that's just me.

I mean, I know this reply is going to make Mr. Snidely Trainer sit back in his big leather recliner and smirk because he probably thinks I'm fat and therefore this is some strange catharsis for me, so I won't try to deny that I know it. Honesty, after all, is so sexy.

I’m not talking about those of you who are 20-30 lbs over your ideal weight; yes weight is an important health factor for you, but not as much as it is for heavier women.

Well yes, by all means, let us leave out SOME females who just happen to be 20-30 pounds over their "ideal weight". Hmm....tell me, do anorexics know that this "ideal weight" exists? I mean, with your deep understanding of women and weight, perhaps you can help them to see that the TRUE measure of a woman is nothing more than how close or far she falls from a national average insurance company life/weight chart or some other such perfectly correct measure. Oh, but I digress...weight is an important health factor for EVERYONE, isn't it, darlin? Overweight, underweight...normal weight. I wonder how many "fat" women who walk a few miles a day are healthier than some "thin" women who smoke, drink and have sex with oh, say, in excess of a thousand excuses for men...perhaps we should ponder that later, eh?

Fist a bit about me

First, last and always...that's clear enough. This posting of yours is ultimately about you, poor darlin. Tough to be a man and admit that, instead of trying to show off how wartless and "healthy" you are (we'll get to that in a minute) despite your horrible trials being sexually addicted. Of course, you wouldn't be at ALL responsible for any of those relationships, would you, sweetheart? I mean for goodness sake, you have an ADDICTION. More on that later, too.

I’m a healthy heterosexual male

Healthy is a relative term, isn't it? Like fat. Or sexy. I wonder, darlin, why you make SUCH a point of referring to yourself as heterosexual in a site that clearly doesn't discriminate. I wonder if we have some defense mechanisms in place here.

Because of my addiction, I’ve been with more women then I care to mention, more women then I can remember. If I had to guess, I’d put the number in excess of 1000. I had a room mate that once commented I’d fuck a snake, if someone would hold its head. I don’t think I was that bad, but I wasn’t very discriminating.

Oh, this is rich with items requiring a response. "Because of my addiction..." Oh really? It wasn't at ANY point your conscious choice to sleep with all those snakes...umm...I mean, women...was it? I mean, that bad old addiction never gave you a tenth of a second of choice. Poor baby.

You refer here to your "lack of discrimination"....this is your first commentary about fat women (ladies, please forgive the term 'fat' as opposed to BBW, I use them interchangeably). You start out by telling us about yourself. You, Mr. Healthy and "gee I'm not perfect but by god I'm in recovery" want to begin to HELP fat women by saying "I only slept with fat women because: A) The addiction made me do it and B) I was so desperate to get my little pecker pumped up that I'd fuck ANYTHING, including snakes, so what's a fat woman now and again when I'm under that kind of pressure to get laid?".

I have to wonder how old you were when you were with the 17 year old....hmmmm wonder how the cops would feel about that one, huh? But again I digress...let's return to the REAL topic of your heartfelt concern--fat women.

I’ve seen a beautiful, responsive clit, become buried beneath rolls of fat. That wonderful little nub doesn’t stand a chance when it’s guarded by dam after dam of fat.

I've seen a beautiful, responsive heart become buried beneath rolls of ignorance. That wonderful heart and those wonderful brains don't stand a chance when they're guarded by dam after dam of shallow selfishness.

The difference in the feeling between penetrating a slender woman and a grossly overweight woman defies description. In extreme cases it’s difficult to tell when I’m actually entering a heavy woman. All that fat also makes it more difficult to reach your G spot. You are depriving yourself of a tremendous amount of pleasure, just as you are depriving your lover.

AHHHHHH....NOW I've got it!!!! Here is the whole problem. LADIES: run out RIGHT NOW and get on those treadmills because what is wrong with you is that HE doesn't get enough stimulation fucking you!!!! My god, how can you all stand around NOT losing weight when HIS little pecker is shriveling? Shame on all of you! Making it harder for HIM to have pleasure, for HIM to know when he's entering you, for HIM to reach your G spot (with the map you provide, of course, and maybe a compass and one of those new-fangled navigation systems they put in cars these days)!!!! We should all be shot.

Yes, you may have the best personality in the world.

Yes, WE may....guess that leaves you out.

You may be fun to be around. You may be the best mother in the world. You may give unforgettable blow jobs, boob fucks, and let your man do things with you that other girls won’t. But don’t expect to be first on his “booty call list”.

*laughing so hard I can't write a response because no woman I know worth her weight in pork rinds would date a man who had a "booty call list"...guess only the losers have those.

I don’t want a bunch of messages bellyaching about your metabolism, thyroid, pregnancy, menopause, hormones, or genetics

Okay, it's VERY important that we all understand the rules of the game before we play, children....here we go:

RULE NUMBER ONE: Only HE is allowed to use excuses (ie, the sex addiction made me do it) but YOU cannot (ie, the food addiction made me do it).

Well...this has been interesting. I think I find it most disheartening that you spoke of how detrimental fat is to sex, and didn't bother to mention love at all......I suppose some things are more important than that to you. Sex, in particular...perhaps you should bring that up in therapy. I wish you good luck.

 

[ladyphoenix]

The above listing is mine....I thought I was registered...sorry

 

[Cipher]

The above listing is mine....I thought I was registered...sorry

LMFAO!!

Well if he doesn't have 5 new assholes..i don't know what will do it....this is too funny..LoL I have a sex addiction but i come to lit..LoL Make sure you mention that to her/him..and i do hope you continue to take the time to make an ass of yourself and get ur sorry lil pecker checked..i hear there's a fatal disease going around called AIDS..ever hear of it?? How many times has it burned when you pee'd, 1000 woman..if there dirty like you are..u know they were boound to have something...and don't give me the whole "i used a rubber" excuse..because remember..there are NO excuses.

U gotta love people with the D.A.D.S syndrome
(dumb as dog shit)..LoL

 

[Cipher]

Just a saying i like..LoL

"Don't hate because i'm thick in the waist and pretty in the face"

 

[bhambabygirl]

I am on a soapbox after reading the last 7 pages of posts. I think I am attractive, and yes, I am a BBW and damn proud of it. I am currently 21, and have been plus sized since I was about 6. I do not have low self esteem. I am not desparate. I am not miserable. And I'll be damned if I'm going to lose weight b/c some dumb ass on a message board who, by his own admission, is nothing more than a male whore. Addicition or no...my SO is a sexaholic, but he still has his requirements, and they are a bit more strict than...."if it has a hole somewhere I will fuck it."

I am 5'6" and about 245-250 lbs. Though there is high density bone and a lot of muscle there, theres also a lot that is not muscle. And Im okay with that. My other half?? Well, he's about 5'9" and 215 lbs of the most solid muscle I have ever seen on a man, and fine as hell. He could have any woman he wanted and he chose me. He saw a pic of me when I got down to 160 lbs (still over my "healthy ideal weight") and said I looked fuckin anorexic...I wasn't but I looked like I was. I know why I am as big as I am...I love food and hate exercise. Our sex life sure as hell isnt deterred by my weight, and I have no problem being on top...and he loves it...asks me to ride.

Like many other people who have posted, I met my sweetie online. I was honest about my size, and he even saw a totally nude pic before we even met. I wasnt ashamed of my size the first time we had sex, and Im still not. I didnt hide behind a robe or towel, and I dont pull the covers up to my chin. As for turning the lights out, we've fucked in broad daylight at a public park on more than one occasion...And as he gets older and the muscles arent as firm, Im still going to love him and find him sexually attractive...Because I love him for who he is, not the size of his waist.

If you need a skinny woman to make you feel like a man, then help your damn self...if any of them will have you. I always heard confidence is sexy...I know a lot more confident BBWs than I do thin girls. I can guarantee that some of the women on this board have more confidence than some of the "most beautiful people". Because we have learned that we can be sexy, we can be beautiful, and we are not 2nd class citizens just because our asses wont fit in a size 2 pair of Guess (though I dont know why anyone would be wearing Guess anyway.) My honey knows that if he puts his weight on me during sex, hes not going to have to take me to the hospital for broken bones....

Just take your closed minded acient history ass back to your therapist and tell him what all of us phat bitches on the sex discussion boards said about you, and see what he says....

 

[Cipher]

*Waves hand like in church*..LoL

Preach on Sistah bhambabygirl!! Preach on!!

*Amen* LoL

For real..i feel you on all that you have said..i guess he feels he's "special" enough to dip on here and tell us we ain't sexy nor are we attractive...well i feel i'm special enough to bend over and he can kiss my phat latina ass..LoL
*Bending over*

LoL

~Cipher~

 

[bhambabygirl]

I know thats right sista

I would even go so far as to bet his wife is a BBW....what do yall think

 

[Cipher]

Re: I know thats right sista

I would even go so far as to bet his wife is a BBW....what do yall think

Nah..i think this is what happened *gettin all jerry springer-ish*

I think his wife/SO done up and left him for a bbw woman..i think that the bbw women broke her ass off real good..and she left his triflin ass..LMFAO..i'm trippin..LoL

So of course he gets all hurt and sappy n shit and he comes here to bitch and whine and TRY to put us down..to make his sorry ass feel good...LoL

Here's a pic u might like bham..i found these on the net..they're bbw doll cartoons..they're real cute

 

[redelicious]

I’ve seen a beautiful, responsive clit, become buried beneath rolls of fat. That wonderful little nub doesn’t stand a chance when it’s guarded by dam after dam of fat.

The difference in the feeling between penetrating a slender woman and a grossly overweight woman defies description. In extreme cases it’s difficult to tell when I’m actually entering a heavy woman. All that fat also makes it more difficult to reach your G spot. You are depriving yourself of a tremendous amount of pleasure, just as you are depriving your lover.

Hello everyone-

I didn't want to give more power to this creep by posting, but I do wonder if he isn't a little confused about my anatomy. Tell ya what YBT (or whoever u r), go take a look at some pics I just posted on BBW Pics.

They're real and they're spectacular

Red

 

[Cipher]

Hello everyone-

I didn't want to give more power to this creep by posting, but I do wonder if he isn't a little confused about my anatomy. Tell ya what YBT (or whoever u r), go take a look at some pics I just posted on BBW Pics.

They're real and they're spectacular

Red

Hell yeah they're SPECTACULAR!!!

2 ya gf!!

 

[redelicious]

Hell yeah they're SPECTACULAR!!!

2 ya gf!!

Thank u

My work here is done

Red

 

[Ms_Lilith]

Re: To be fat, or not to be fat....is that the question?

ladyphoenix wrote:

I've seen a beautiful, responsive heart become buried beneath rolls of ignorance. That wonderful heart and those wonderful brains don't stand a chance when they're guarded by dam after dam of shallow selfishness.

I have to give you a great big cheer on all you said, but I found this a STELLAR reply to his comment about a beautiful responsive clit. Honestly, thank you, Ladyphoenix... thank you!



By the way ladies, there's a thread on the GB called "I am Rubenesque and I am proud of it!" Maybe y'all wanna drop in and put in your names and two cents?

 

[Ezarc]

Re: Re: To be fat, or not to be fat....is that the question?

ladyphoenix wrote:

I've seen a beautiful, responsive heart become buried beneath rolls of ignorance. That wonderful heart and those wonderful brains don't stand a chance when they're guarded by dam after dam of shallow selfishness.

I have to give you a great big cheer on all you said, but I found this a STELLAR reply to his comment about a beautiful responsive clit. Honestly, thank you, Ladyphoenix... thank you!



By the way ladies, there's a thread on the GB called "I am Rubenesque and I am proud of it!" Maybe y'all wanna drop in and put in your names and two cents?

*runs up, hugs vixenshe, smiles, winks, and then runs back to the gb*
Take Care and Lust Always,
Ezarc

 

[Cipher]

Re: Re: To be fat, or not to be fat....is that the question?

ladyphoenix wrote:

I've seen a beautiful, responsive heart become buried beneath rolls of ignorance. That wonderful heart and those wonderful brains don't stand a chance when they're guarded by dam after dam of shallow selfishness.

I have to give you a great big cheer on all you said, but I found this a STELLAR reply to his comment about a beautiful responsive clit. Honestly, thank you, Ladyphoenix... thank you!



By the way ladies, there's a thread on the GB called "I am Rubenesque and I am proud of it!" Maybe y'all wanna drop in and put in your names and two cents?

Hi vixen!! i'm gonna go see if i can locate that thread..i have more than a few cents i can spend..LoL
See ya there??