Bernie!

So, who do you think won the Puerto Rico primary? :rolleyes:

Going to stay in the state of denial for very much longer?

I was waiting for the final results. I haven't seen them yet but I expect the establishment will prevail. Perhaps if you've seen the finial results you could link them instead of just sniping like a Clinton.
 
I was waiting for the final results.

How DARE you! The ordained queen will be named winner before any results are in every time.

Perhaps if you've seen the finial results you could link them instead of just sniping like a Clinton.

LOL he's prob writing her right now asking for maximum military casualties on our side and hopefully the outright slaughter of at least 100 million poor folks.
 
Why does Sanders do better than Clinton against Trump?

According to the latest NBC News|SurveyMonkey Weekly Election Tracking poll, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is now only slightly ahead of businessman Donald Trump in a general election match-up among registered voters, 47 percent to 45 percent.

Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders, however, continues to perform much better against the presumptive Republican nominee than Clinton and is currently beating him by a full 12 points, 52 percent to 40 percent. Why does Sanders do better than Clinton against Trump? This is an important question that will have implications for Clinton’s campaign if she becomes the presumptive nominee and looks to win over voters in the coming months.


Shot version, while independents hate Trump, they don't care for Hillary very much either.

If Hillary is in a marginal lead and Bernie has a Huge lead, why would the Demo's risk a Trump presidency? I mean think about the Supreme Court, the down ticket implications, the specter of a WAR, the a Trump presidency portends.
 
Shot version, while independents hate Trump, they don't care for Hillary very much either.

Generally speaking they hate her more.

Trump is a wild card, Clinton is proven scum.

If Hillary is in a marginal lead and Bernie has a Huge lead, why would the Demo's risk a Trump presidency?

Because it's HER TURN!!

I mean think about the Supreme Court, the down ticket implications, the specter of a WAR, the a Trump presidency portends.

Trump hasn't ever started a war or sent Americans to some 3rd world hole without support, repeatedly denied them support and let them die in the most horrifying fashions possible when it wasn't at all necessary to do so.

Both Bill and Hillary have.

The idea that Trump is going to war it up and Clinton wont is fucking laughable. Outside of the lemming camp being the worst Secretary of State we've ever had isn't a qualification or a high point over Trump. It's a reason to vote Trump.
 
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Why does Sanders do better than Clinton against Trump?




Shot version, while independents hate Trump, they don't care for Hillary very much either.

If Hillary is in a marginal lead and Bernie has a Huge lead, why would the Demo's risk a Trump presidency? I mean think about the Supreme Court, the down ticket implications, the specter of a WAR, the a Trump presidency portends.

The shorter version is that Sanders has virtually no history.
 
As I've said repeatedly, assuming Silly Hilly and The Donald are nominated, they will be the worst pair of candidates ever offered by the two major parties. :(
 
You've researched back in history, have you? I'm not going to bother to research this (nor do I think you have), but it's not hard for me to believe that back in the times when presidential candidates got virtually no media coverage and were selected in the back rooms of party headquarters, that there were some stinkers put forward by both sides.

Yours is just another case of the screamy overstatements and rabid/blind partisanship going on on this forum.
 
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Actually my opinions are generally with the majority and are virtually always supported by the facts once they come out. So that first paragraph is silly.

As for your second paragraph, I'm aware I live in a country of prudes. One problem at a time though.

Actually, the opinions you express here are often expressed multiple times each by you & a few other people... Each time does not count as a separate person. Similarly, they are rarely-if-ever supported by facts.

Also, neither thing I wrote was a paragraph, but what is factually supported is you rarely if ever post facts.
 
You've researched back in history, have you? I'm not going to bother to research this (nor do I think you have), but it's not hard for me to believe that back in the times when presidential candidates got virtually no media coverage and were selected in the back rooms of party headquarters, that there were some stinkers put forward by both sides.

Yours is just another case of the screamy overstatements and rabid/blind partisanship going on on this forum.

Obviously, I'm simply expressing an opinion, and I need no proof. What do you mean by "partisanship?" I am critical of the candidates from both major parties.
 
Obviously, I'm simply expressing an opinion, and I need no proof. What do you mean by "partisanship?" I am critical of the candidates from both major parties.

I agree that you're equally uninformed but still heavily opinionated about both major parties. What you are partisan on is the know-nothing movement. Quite a big group of folks. My opinion is that your opinion on these two candidates being the worst ever run is that you didn't bother to do your research on that. So, what else is new?
 
CNN Is reporting with 69% in:
candidatevotes%pledged
Clinton 36,026
61.0% 36d's

Sanders 22,768
38.6% 20d's

Still pretty bad for Bernie. :( Net +16 d's for HRC.

But maybe the outlying areas that haven't reported are Bernie fans? :eek:

CBS is same but call 59% in?
 
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Of course we could just wait for the vote count to be completed to make anything of it.
 
As Yogi said, "It ain't over til it's over."

You seem to specialize in denial in the meantime. Like Bernie, who thinks Democratic super delegates who he's done nothing for--ever--are suddenly going to run to him. :rolleyes:
 
As Yogi said, "It ain't over til it's over."

It's over, Sanders didn't get the 70%+ uber landslide popular vote. That means he's not getting the nomination.

And face it, (D) is nothing but a bunch of neolibs out to rat fuck America and hold poor folks down no different than (R).

They just sell a different lie....instead of lying about small government and balanced budgets they promise things like GMO labeling, ending wars and HC reform that isn't a complete butt fuck rip off.

None of them ever follow through on any of it.

We will get Clinton and she's going to fuck everyone but her billionaire buddies just like Obama.

You seem to specialize in denial in the meantime. Like Bernie, who thinks Democratic super delegates who he's done nothing for--ever--are suddenly going to run to him. :rolleyes:

God forbid they do the right thing and vote for the less chicken hawk noeCon scumbaggy candidate. :rolleyes:

It's all about "what's in it for me" with Democrats.....just like rethuglicans.

Oh well if you can't beat em' join em!:D
 
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Tomorrow in California and in New Jersey the stage will be set for the face off in Philly. Weeks from now, who knows what evil deals can be struck in the meantime?

Bernie is still polling better than Hillary in the open election, not one restricted to Democratic voters. The Supers will have a decision that will prove how much loyalty to "The Party" they have by selecting the one who out polls Trump by double digits in Key voting states.

Lot of Bernie Bro's will vote Green if Hillary is selected, but more Hillary forever's will vote for Bernie because he's an alternative to a Trump.

It promises to be a hot time in Philly this summer. Tempers will be short, the cops will be hot and pissed off. Probably the National Guard will be on call.
 
The denial continues.

Clinton was reported as clinching the nomination an hour ago: http://www.todayonline.com/world/americas/clinton-clinches-democratic-nomination-ap-delegate-count

You just can't understand that the Democratic Party super delegates aren't going to change in droves to someone who isn't even a Democrat, has done jack shit for the Democratic Party, and has lost his chance to get anything he wants from the party by not negotiating for his slice of the platform and being a gadfly to the end. He only polls as he does at the moment nationally against Trump because he has no history to pull negatives out of considering he isn't accepted at this point by either the Democratic or Republican parties as a serious candidate. If he were (and if by some miracle he got to that point), he'd be torn apart by anyone who wanted to point out that he's done practically nothing in his entire political life. Of the two the Republicans would love to have him in the White House, because he'd be totally dead in the water there. He has no means to get anything done that he wants done. He's just about frittered any chance of that away by not leveraging the party and Clinton while he could have.
 
It's over, Sanders didn't get the 70%+ uber landslide popular vote. That means he's not getting the nomination.

And face it, (D) is nothing but a bunch of neolibs out to rat fuck America and hold poor folks down no different than (R).

They just sell a different lie....instead of lying about small government and balanced budgets they promise things like GMO labeling, ending wars and HC reform that isn't a complete butt fuck rip off.

None of them ever follow through on any of it.

We will get Clinton and she's going to fuck everyone but her billionaire buddies just like Obama.



God forbid they do the right thing and vote for the less chicken hawk noeCon scumbaggy candidate. :rolleyes:

It's all about "what's in it for me" with Democrats.....just like rethuglicans.

Oh well if you can't beat em' join em!:D

Are you sure you're still a "rabid/blind partisan"?:rolleyes:
 
Are you sure you're still a "rabid/blind partisan"?:rolleyes:

:confused:


I really don't give a fuck anymore....I'm just venting about how full of shit both parties are.

Fuck them and fuck America.

I just hope whichever shit bag we put in the WH this year starts WWIII and or fucks the economy right over the edge possibly starting WWIII. China/Russia take the US and ISIS absolutely butt fucks Europe.

That would be fuckin' awesome....
 
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