Democratic Primary Fucktussle!

[JackLuis]

It’s Time for Obama to Man Up and Back Biden

The biggest decisions are in the hands of two men: Barack Obama and Mike Bloomberg.

Obama is the most important player in this equation.

He almost certainly will resist this idea, but Obama should play a leadership role in a party bereft of leaders by endorsing Joe Biden before Super Tuesday. Tomorrow would be good.

Here’s the simple, 60-second script that would melt down every social media platform in the world:

I’m Barack Obama. For eight years, Joe Biden was at my side in the most important fights of our time. He shares my vision for a nation that is more fair, more caring, and that honors our values and aspirations. He’s led on civil rights, health care, education, and helped make our country safer and more prosperous.

This race is too important for me to sit on the sidelines. The only thing that matters this fall is that we take back the White House from Donald Trump and retake the Senate, and the only man who can beat him is my friend Joe.

Joe is the right man to lead this fight, and this nation, and I am proud to offer him my wholehearted endorsement and support.

Will BHO back up his friend OHJ? HE better do it soon or he'll be a dollar late and a hour short!

 

[JackLuis]

Donna Brazile To Ronna McDaniel: 'Go To Hell'

 

[JackLuis]

Well in the early results it looks like Biden and Bernie are swamping the results.

A big win for Old Handsome Joe, his first win in a primary, third time's a charm it seems?
Looks like his grass...roots Dems came out.

However Bernie could take a good deal of California by morning after the count is completed, so Cheer up Bernie Bots!

It will make for an interesting platform debate.

 

[JackLuis]

Biden finds his mojo on Super Tuesday

Analysis: The former vice president barreled through Southern states, picking up key backing from African American voters, to strike back at Bernie Sanders.

Four days removed from a winless record in the fight for the Democratic presidential nomination, former Vice President Joe Biden prevailed in a string of Southern states Tuesday. He added hundreds of delegates to a campaign train that launched out of South Carolina on Saturday and has been picking up steam ever since.

"We were told when you get to Super Tuesday, it may be over," Biden told supporters Tuesday night, his voice full of excitement. "Well, it may be over for the other guy."

 

[Ziggins]

I am a little bit amazed to see the Dems to find a candidate who is worse than Hillary. Four years of calculating and scheming and over 20 candidates, and they pick the senile creeper. This is beyond my expectation of the party shitting the bed again.

 

[KeithD]

I am a little bit amazed to see the Dems to find a candidate who is worse than Hillary. Four years of calculating and scheming and over 20 candidates, and they pick the senile creeper. This is beyond my expectation of the party shitting the bed again.

Happily all of the Democratic candidates--Hillary, Biden, Sanders, etc. have been miles better than that corrupt, criminal, venal, treasonous Trump now occupying the White House. So, your being amazed is just fine.

 

[JackLuis]

So Wednesday morning shows Biden in the lead but not clinching the delegate count.

Biden 440

Sanders 365

Warren 27

Bloomberg 31

 

[KeithD]

There still are primaries to come. We could just watch what happens rather than spinning a lot of wheels in interim judgments.

 

[YDB95]

I am a little bit amazed to see the Dems to find a candidate who is worse than Hillary. Four years of calculating and scheming and over 20 candidates, and they pick the senile creeper. This is beyond my expectation of the party shitting the bed again.

I don't suppose there's anyone they could have chosen whom you would have approved of. (Wait, don't tell me...Tulsi? Right.)

 

[Ziggins]

I don't suppose there's anyone they could have chosen whom you would have approved of. (Wait, don't tell me...Tulsi? Right.)

I wouldn't vote for most of them, but Biden is the only one who forgets what he's paid to say. Bloomie may be a draw, but any of the others must be at least a little bit more competent.

 

[YDB95]

Interesting take. One of the few things I do like about Biden is that he has a track record of getting things done, even if they're not always things I liked.

That said, I'm not going to lose any sleep over people saying they wouldn't support him when they also wouldn't support most other Democrats.

 

[KeithD]

Biden is the only one who forgets what he's paid to say.

Guess you've never heard of a guy named Donald Trump. I'm not surprised.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Interesting take. One of the few things I do like about Biden is that he has a track record of getting things done, even if they're not always things I liked.

That said, I'm not going to lose any sleep over people saying they wouldn't support him when they also wouldn't support most other Democrats.

What did he get done?

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

So Bloomberg spent almost a billion dollars, failed miserably, and dropped out the day after his first test with voters. Makes those people who believed Trump won because Russians spent a couple hundred thousand on barely literate Facebook ads look pretty stupid.

 

[YDB95]

What did he get done?

1. The Violence Against Women Act
2. The Comprehensive Crime Control Act (which I think went too far, but like I said, it's not about what I like)
3. Keeping Bork off the Supreme Court
4. Negotiating with Breshnev to address US objections to the SALT II treaty
5. Building support for the Bosnians in the Balkan war
6. The McCain Biden Kosovo Resolution
7. Lading the charge on a lot of Obama's foreign policies, especially in Iraq
8. Oversight on the 2009 economic stimulus package
9. Negotiating to avert a government shutdown in 2011

And plenty more where that came from, but you get the idea.

 

[JackLuis]

Democratic challengers have an advantage over incumbent GOP senators in these 4 battleground states: poll

Never forget the additional task of Dem's is to sink Mitch! This may be a bridge too far?

In order for Democrats to achieve a majority in the U.S. Senate in November, they will need to flip at least for GOP-held seats while holding onto all of the seats they are defending. And according to a poll by Public Policy Polling (PPP), Democrats have an advantage in four states with Republican senators: Maine, Colorado, Arizona and North Carolina.

Bloomy may have to shift spending to put Mitch in the ground. With out the complicit Senate Trumpikins would be IMPEACHED in a New Your Minute! So get out the vote and vote with .44 calibre Ballots!

 

[JackLuis]

An Elegy For Elizabeth Warren​

Well, it's happened again. I don't know about you, but this time, I'm sort of blessedly numb. Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders aren't Trump. Things will be better under either of them than they are now. They're both ... fine. Just, with Elizabeth Warren reportedly dropping out of the presidential race today, things won't actually be good. That's okay. We're used to "not actually good."

Bernie and Joe are fine. Neither one of them's a bad guy. In my view, they're sort of flip sides of the same coin: old (my god so old) white men who are fine. They both care about the country. They both care about working people. (One of them sort of more theoretically and better on policy for them; the other more empathically and individually and hopefully won't send them all to Crime Bill Bankruptcy Jail.) Certainly neither of them would fire the head of pandemic response — or rather the entire pandemic response team — and then just do away with the positions entirely.

Darn! Liz is dropping out!

 

[KeithD]

Liz sits in the catbird seat for the present. Both Sanders and Biden need her and the age of both of them makes the VP slot choice crucial. I'm hoping that rather than going with Bernie and his "nothing going but my just-theory ideas" approach, she'll go with Biden, use her current leverage to get the VP nod, and be in place to influence progressive agendas she, rather than Bernie, has actually planned out--and maybe move up to president, whether before or after 2024. A best scenario, I think, is for Biden to take the presidency and give us some calming and back to centering time that then leads into a steady move into more progressive policies. I think a Biden/Warren ticket would give us that.

Oh, and the best scenario would include Trump in prison.

 

[YDB95]

I love Warren, but I don't see her getting the VP nod. She won't bring in any constituencies that the Dems can't already count on, and, to put it bluntly, an all-white ticket would be a big mistake.

 

[JackLuis]

Biden and Bernie clash over Social Security after Donald Trump vowed cuts

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) and former Vice President Joe Biden clashed on Social Security after President Donald Trump told a Fox News town hall he would be cutting the popular program.


Joe Biden (Text Join to 30330)
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@JoeBiden

Here's the deal, folks: social security is on the ballot this year, and the choice couldn't be clearer:

I'll protect and expand it. Donald Trump will cut it and take it away.


Bernie Sanders
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@BernieSanders

Here's the deal: Joe Biden has repeatedly advocated for cuts to Social Security. I've fought my whole career to protect and expand it. https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1235725955726893056 …


Joe Biden (Text Join to 30330)
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@JoeBiden

Get real, Bernie. The only person who's going to cut Social Security if he's elected is Donald Trump. Maybe you should spend your time attacking him. https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1235728614617907200 …


Bernie Sanders
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@BernieSanders

Get real, Joe. One of us has a history of not only fighting cuts to Social Security but working to expand benefits. And that’s why we are the campaign best positioned to defeat Donald Trump. https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1235733748563533824 …

Dems In Disarray!!

 

[Wrong Element]

I love Warren, but I don't see her getting the VP nod. She won't bring in any constituencies that the Dems can't already count on, and, to put it bluntly, an all-white ticket would be a big mistake.

I think she'd be a great vice president, especially paired with Biden, who's both fairly non-ideological and (to put it mildly) not very energetic at this point in time. An ambitious veep who understands government inside and out could really put their stamp on that administration.

But I agree that she's not an optimal choice for actually getting the ticket elected. I supported her — I really wanted her to run last time, and I think there's a good chance she would have won — but concede that she has her drawbacks as a candidate.

I don't expect Warren to endorse, or if she does it will be like her Hillary endorsement in 2016, coming after things have been decided. Bernie is probably a goner barring some twist, so endorsing him now will make her look weak if he then goes on lose. But endorsing Biden now wouldn't make a lot of sense either, because she has genuine differences with him that go back to when he was a senator and she was still just a professor.

 

[Ziggins]

"Healthcare is a human right" is an easy slogan that ignores the years, expense, and stress of pre-med, medical school, and hospital residency. When medical training is more like vocational training in high school and community college, then we could have affordable community healthcare.

 

[JackLuis]

Get on board for President Joe: He’ll win, and Trump is finished

We’re going to need a new word for momentum when this is over, but that’s the way it’s looking. “In my year of covering politics, I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything like what happened in the 48 hours after South Carolina,” New York Times columnist David Brooks wrote on Friday. “Millions of Democrats from all around the country, from many different demographics, turning as one and arriving at a common decision. It was like watching a flock of geese or a school of fish, seemingly leaderless, sensing some shift in conditions, sensing each other’s intuitions, and smoothly shifting direction en masse.”

This election is going to be a blowout. Biden will win in a landslide. Democrats will hold the House, take back the Senate, and flip state houses around the country. We’re going to wake up next Jan. 20 as if from a bad dream.

Yep, Dem's are back on the "Hillary can't lose!" train, only this time with OHJ. Joe can still fuck this up and he can not count on Covid-19 saving his ass.

Joe can win, but it will take restraint. He has to use a platform that attracts people to his side and not try to demonize Trumpski. Donnie will do that himself, Joe needs to show how he will DO SOMETHING and not just prance about "A WInner".

 

[YDB95]

"Healthcare is a human right" is an easy slogan that ignores the years, expense, and stress of pre-med, medical school, and hospital residency. When medical training is more like vocational training in high school and community college, then we could have affordable community healthcare.

Funny how the rest of the civilised world has been able to overcome that issue. It might have something to do with the fact that the cost of education hasn't increased exponentially in just two generations elsewhere.

 

[ishtat]

Not sure about Warren as VP. Has many abilities but not so much in delivering votes. I think she will get a senior spot in a technically demanding area. I still like Klobuchar, partly because she delivered her clout in Minnessota so effectively to Biden. If she concentrated on getting the D vote back in the rustbelt states that could be crucial.

I also want to see her debate Pence. She chewed up Kavenough very well in the Senate hearings; I'm a bit of a sadist and would love to see Pence on the wrong end of her cross examination skills. But it has to be said she never really grabbed the primaries electorate.

Lotsa folks think Biden needs a black VP. I'm not so sure because I think almost all Black people that vote will go for Biden anyway. The problem might be getting the Black vote out. If either or both the Obamas put themselves into play with endorsements and a call to Black people to vote that could be very effective.

But, a lot of water to flow under the Bridge between now and the convention.