Disaster in the Making

[jomar]

So, you're accusing me of lying?

Absolutely not, you are a paragon of truthiness.

 

[suurfer]

I'm not referring to Americans, just to the press.
The memes over the last week were pretty Mao-istic, which led to so many people that I know, turning to. Al Jazeera and RT for info:

This made me laugh:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULPp-QmM-IM

The clip is hillarious.
It also explains how the constant repetition of the meme "we're abandoning 'the kurds" led to all this mob outrage.

I'm not much less self-righteous or ill-informed than butters is, but at least I made an effort to understand who 'the kurds' aka YPG are.

 

[SpeareChucker]

Absolutely not, you are a paragon of truthiness.

I was consistent throughout the election with my belief that Trump was unelectable.

Go back. Look at the record. I was as surprised as Hillary that he won.

Plus, I am a Libertarian and support my party's candidate.

So implying that I am lying - come on man!

Put on your big boy pants...

 

[suurfer]

The clip from 'The View' was the most hillarious.

Poor Woopy was obviously embarrassed when she had to recite the "we're abandoning the Kurds" meme that producers asked her to: "umm, umm"

but then seeing poor Rand Paul being cornered by two hysterical women, especially the lips-enhanced one: "But we're abandoning the Kurds!"

 

[bellisarius]

It's not just the US press, I browsed through international ones and most of them do just C&Ped memes. But yes, the US is the leader, most just follow through.
But there's no denying that most Western press is becoming either increasingly dumbed down, or mostly propagandistic or is catering to a dumbed down public. It's a shame that people are now turning to your enemies for information.

Look, you know the drill. You've remarked on it more than once yourself. If it embarrasses Trump, it's front page fodder.

 

[suurfer]

Look, you know the drill. You've remarked on it more than once yourself. If it embarrasses Trump, it's front page fodder.

From a layperson's perspective, I find it fascinating because I think they'll reap what they dread.

Here's how I think, and I'm sure there are many who think the same:
I started being disenchanted with Trump's internal policies (welfare for the rich) long time ago, but I like his national security and external policies.

But this constant anti-Turkey disingenuous propaganda, just to stick it to Trump is making me feel more sympathetic towards him.
And guess what, Democrats. A good chunk of the American electorate are immigrants, and they don't like seeing the press playing dominos with other countries' problems, for their own gain.

 

[jomar]

I was consistent throughout the election with my belief that Trump was unelectable.

Go back. Look at the record. I was as surprised as Hillary that he won.

Plus, I am a Libertarian and support my party's candidate.

So implying that I am lying - come on man!

Put on your big boy pants...

Simmer down there. No reason to be so touchy and get all riled up on this fine Saturday morning.

 

[jaF0]

ButtWipeToi doesn't understand it's not the What, it's the How, Why and When.

 

[bellisarius]

ButtWipeToi doesn't understand it's not the What, it's the How, Why and When.

The "When" is now. The "Why" is because we have no dog in a decades long fight. And the "How" is, "I'm Leaving on a Jet Plane."

 

[zipman]

ButtWipeToi doesn't understand it's not the What, it's the How, Why and When.

It's such a difficult concept.

These idiots would rather limit it to the what and make up shit like we want troops there forever.

 

[HisArpy]

From a layperson's perspective, I find it fascinating because I think they'll reap what they dread.

Here's how I think, and I'm sure there are many who think the same:
I started being disenchanted with Trump's internal policies (welfare for the rich) long time ago, but I like his national security and external policies.

But this constant anti-Turkey disingenuous propaganda, just to stick it to Trump is making me feel more sympathetic towards him.
And guess what, Democrats. A good chunk of the American electorate are immigrants, and they don't like seeing the press playing dominos with other countries' problems, for their own gain.

What's funny in all of this is that you somehow convey that you believe it's only Trump who is doing the "welfare for the rich" thing.

Wealthy people are wealthy because they have/had something other people wanted and were willing pay for. Once they acquired that wealth THEY get to set the rules about who gets to keep wealth.

Anyone who wants to change that equation need only become wealthy themselves and convince all their friends to do so too. Then THEY can set the rules and give away all that money they have to people who can't be bothered to go earn it for themselves.

I'll wait to see how it works out. And whether "the friends", once they're wealthy, will continue to go along with the plan.

 

[suurfer]

It's such a difficult concept.

These idiots would rather limit it to the what and make up shit like we want troops there forever.

You don't?
Didn't you oppose a troops withdrawal the year before too?

 

[SpeareChucker]

You don't?

They're being hypocritical...

 

[IrezumiKiss]

The "When" is now. The "Why" is because we have no dog in a decades long fight. And the "How" is, "I'm Leaving on a Jet Plane."

Which you and yours would've been completely A-OK with had Obama done the exact same thing.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/1AIeYgwnqeBUxh6juu/giphy.gif

 

[dagdag]

Yes and no. We have no way of knowing who's a member of what before the fact. It's not as if they have uniforms with patches and the like.

Would it suffice to say that leader of the "syrian democratic forces" SDF was/is part of PKK? He is responsible for civilian killings! and Interpol has a warrant on him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazlum_Abdi


General Raymond Thomas, the commander of the United States Special Operations Command (SOCOM), spoke at the Aspen Institute Security Forum on 21 July 2017.American General explained rebranding the YPG away from the PKK.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVZ...7tkvDewLB7DDkZ-TCtp4W_kvC5pKgnqsMXOIq4mXIN2_U

 

[BotanyBoy]

Which you and yours would've been completely A-OK with had Obama done the exact same thing.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/1AIeYgwnqeBUxh6juu/giphy.gif

I voted for Obama because he promised to do exactly that.

But don't let the facts burst your bubble.

 

[zipman]

You don't?
Didn't you oppose a troops withdrawal the year before too?

Once your in you have to stay in until the situation is stabilized.

This wasn't a "strategic decision," Trump just decided to do it during a phone call despite almost every military advisor saying it wasn't the right thing to do for months. Mostly because Trump thinks he is smarter than our generals (which he has come right out and said) despite him having absolutely no military experience.

It makes us an unreliable ally no matter what the morons on the right are saying.

 

[BotanyBoy]

It is humorous as to how quickly the tune was changed
from support for sudden withdrawals to objecting to them.

Is it possible that they learned a lesson taught to the the hard way by President Obama
or is it most likely that they are just mindlessly opposed to any action by President Trump?

It's why this meme is so funny....it's true.
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/350/175/067.jpg


And all that posting?? Still not one reason from the pro-war forever for no reason left......imagine that.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Once your in you have to stay in until the situation is stabilized.

you're* smart stuff.

It's funny zippy has adopted 13 year old Bush talking points now that they are partisanly convenient.

How much you want to bet he was part of the "BUSH IS LITERALLY HITLER!!" crowd

 

[HisArpy]

Once your in you have to stay in until the situation is stabilized.

This wasn't a "strategic decision," Trump just decided to do it during a phone call despite almost every military advisor saying it wasn't the right thing to do for months. Mostly because Trump thinks he is smarter than our generals (which he has come right out and said) despite him having absolutely no military experience.

It makes us an unreliable ally no matter what the morons on the right are saying.

Says who?


Lots of military campaigns have left the scene of battle before the situation was "stabilized". History is littered with wars which left the countryside devastated and no one cared then or cares now.

 

[suurfer]

What's funny in all of this is that you somehow convey that you believe it's only Trump who is doing the "welfare for the rich" thing.

Wealthy people are wealthy because they have/had something other people wanted and were willing pay for. Once they acquired that wealth THEY get to set the rules about who gets to keep wealth.

Anyone who wants to change that equation need only become wealthy themselves and convince all their friends to do so too. Then THEY can set the rules and give away all that money they have to people who can't be bothered to go earn it for themselves.

I'll wait to see how it works out. And whether "the friends", once they're wealthy, will continue to go along with the plan.

I don't know how it works.
I'm just noticing that, while the nomber of billionaires increased, American working class aren't where they should be. For the no.1 empire and for such enormous technological advances, they should live a different life.
Or pay lower taxes than the 0.01%.

 

[bellisarius]

I don't know how it works.
I'm just noticing that, while the nomber of billionaires increased, American working class aren't where they should be. For the no.1 empire and for such enormous technological advances, they should live a different life.
Or pay lower taxes than the 0.01%.

It happens every time in history that disruptive technologies come along. Where are the "Rail Barons" now?

 

[suurfer]

What's funny in all of this is that you somehow convey that you believe it's only Trump who is doing the "welfare for the rich" thing.

Wealthy people are wealthy because they have/had something other people wanted and were willing pay for. Once they acquired that wealth THEY get to set the rules about who gets to keep wealth.

Anyone who wants to change that equation need only become wealthy themselves and convince all their friends to do so too. Then THEY can set the rules and give away all that money they have to people who can't be bothered to go earn it for themselves.

I'll wait to see how it works out. And whether "the friends", once they're wealthy, will continue to go along with the plan.

as much as I like you, these memes are getting on my nerves.
How tf can hundreds of millions of McDonalds and factory workers just get over their "lazinness" and become rich?

 

[icanhelp1]

What's funny in all of this is that you somehow convey that you believe it's only Trump who is doing the "welfare for the rich" thing.

Wealthy people are wealthy because they have/had something other people wanted and were willing pay for. Once they acquired that wealth THEY get to set the rules about who gets to keep wealth.

Anyone who wants to change that equation need only become wealthy themselves and convince all their friends to do so too. Then THEY can set the rules and give away all that money they have to people who can't be bothered to go earn it for themselves.

I'll wait to see how it works out. And whether "the friends", once they're wealthy, will continue to go along with the plan.

The collective finds it much easier to redistribute wealth than to get off your ass and use your God given talent.

 

[suurfer]

It happens every time in history that disruptive technologies come along. Where are the "Rail Barons" now?

Yes, that's a good point.

Don't know about America much, but look at Russia and other third world countries. Who are Their billionaires, and how did they get there?