Do women have different standards

A voice that makes you want to melt is heaven...actors Alan Rickman and Matthew Macfadyen (see my av) have fine examples of creamworthy voices.

OMG, so true!! Alan Rickman's voice is soooo wonderful! And you're completely right -- he could so have his way with me based on that alone! :D I love listening to him. *sigh*

And another vote here for intelligence. It's the number one thing I am attracted to and can draw me to someone I might not have necessarily noticed the first time around. Couple it with a great sense of humor and I'm usually toast. ;)
 
but if he has wit and intelligence and sense of humor - ohhhh now that drives up the attraction big time. :)

I second this! Intelligence is very sexy! Good sense of humor and a quick wit are HUGE on the attraction scale for me.
Looks change, sometimes for better, sometimes for worse...

But those three things show WHO a person really is and therein lies the draw.
 
Well for me, I don't really want a drop dead gorgeous man. It would make me more self conscious and harder for me to trust him.

I like more "average" looking guys a la Owen Williams - a guy that could blend into the crowd possibly looks wise (I mean he's good looking, but he's not drop dead gorgeous), but if he has wit and intelligence and sense of humor - ohhhh now that drives up the attraction big time. :)

And he has sexy hands. Sexy sexy hands. I like his hands a lot. :eek: Which makes me wonder. I know that many guys will say "I'm a nipple man." Or "I'm a breast man." Or another guy I know says "It's all about the butt. Girl's gotta have a butt..." Some women have a similar thing, but I've noticed that with us, it tends to be different. We tend to be into hair or hands or eyes. Do you think that men or women are most likely to have a body part that's really attractive to them? And have you noticed a difference between what men and women like in body parts? In my not very broad experience, men are into breasts and asses and the like more than they are into hands or hair and such.

I was just wondering what y'all think. I'll be in my bunk. Thinking about Owen Wilson's hands.... And er, other stuff too...:eek:
 
OMG, so true!! Alan Rickman's voice is soooo wonderful! And you're completely right -- he could so have his way with me based on that alone! :D I love listening to him. *sigh*

And another vote here for intelligence. It's the number one thing I am attracted to and can draw me to someone I might not have necessarily noticed the first time around. Couple it with a great sense of humor and I'm usually toast. ;)

Ah yes... Alan Rickman. Brains, voice, hands and accent. I'll be taking him to my bunk as well.:eek:
 
porn stars are usually paid to have a fetish dear

Actually porn stars are paid to have sex in the way they are told. This one actually has a foot fetish, he admits it. He loves the feet, in his scenes he is always grabbing her foot and doing the whole sniff and lick thingy and that's just weird. :confused:

Course he is still handsome and muscular and tall and I love his hair, but that darn foot thingy I can't stop thinking about it when I see him. :eek:
 
Foot fetishes are good, though. It pretty well gets you regular foot massages and the licking/sucking is even better. ;)
 
Biology and Chemistry

Whom women are attracted to depends upon what she is looking for, casual sex, a life partner, a father to her children (whether she has them now or in the future)...

There is a lot of information, and a few books about the chemistry and biological instinct of attraction, lust, and love. (A good one written for non-scientists is "Do Gentlemen Prefer Blonds?", it covers both men and women).
 
A good-looking man will never lack a partner (for sex or a relationship), just like a good-looking woman. I call shenanigans on some higher female desire for intellect or 'personality'. Good-looking guys never have a problem pulling.
The other lame turn-on women (at least online) claim to have is intellect. If that were the case the university physics, math and engineering departments would be swarmed with co-eds all after a piece. Obviously not the case.
It's not so wrong to admit that you're attracted to someone who is, you know, attractive at least visually so. Male or female, we all pursue people who we think look good, and that beauty is not as subjective as people here suggest.
 
I think men and women are equally affected by looks upon first meeting/seeing someone; however, I think women are more susceptible than men to then re-evaluating their level of attractiveness to the person after knowing more about their personality. For example, confidence, sense of humor, talent, and, yes, intellect can all make a man MUCH more physically attractive to a woman...I think women have a harder time separating looks and personality. On the other hand, while I think men are certainly influenced by and appreciate these things, I think they are better able to and more apt to objectively judge a woman's sexual attractiveness alone, without personality playing into it, than women are. I also think this plays into the reason that women tend to have a harder time separating sex and love than most men do.

Of course, these are obviously sweeping generalizations and there are plenty of exceptions on both sides.
 
A good-looking man will never lack a partner (for sex or a relationship), just like a good-looking woman.

I think that both men and women might put up with attractive partners for longer than they would unattractive partners. But I don't think one could claim that good looking people automatically have more longevity to or satisfaction in their relationships.

The other lame turn-on women (at least online) claim to have is intellect. If that were the case the university physics, math and engineering departments would be swarmed with co-eds all after a piece. Obviously not the case.

How do you know? If a teacher has personality and charm to go along with the brains and intellect, I bet he gets laid more than you know. Maybe it's not by little co-ed girls, though. They are probably just more attracted to guys in their own age group. When I was in college, I was attracted to smart, charismatic teachers who weren't that good looking at all so I don't buy your theory.

It's not so wrong to admit that you're attracted to someone who is, you know, attractive at least visually so. Male or female, we all pursue people who we think look good, and that beauty is not as subjective as people here suggest.

I think it is subjective, for some people, maybe not for everybody. I don't care how gorgeous and fuckable a man looks, I am not attracted to him if he proves to be a brain dead knucklescraper who can't form sentences. But that's me.

What this thread is proving to me, more than anything, is it's kinda pointless to generalize what works for a whole gender.
 
When it comes to good looks? If I were to pick out ten pretty women pictures and show them to 10 men I bet all of them would agree they were pretty. But it's not that way with women. Take me for example. There are some really nice looking women who say I'm handsome. At the same time there are some who want to run for the hills when they see my picture. With women is beauty more in the eye of the beholder?
its hard to say..for me anyways. i dont like "one certain type"...but a man's looks is very important. i think all women view every man differently. men arent like that. its all about tits and ass for them..very few care if you have some brain matter to go along with the t and a.
 
its hard to say..for me anyways. i dont like "one certain type"...but a man's looks is very important. i think all women view every man differently. men arent like that. its all about tits and ass for them..very few care if you have some brain matter to go along with the t and a.
Well, if you're talking about a hookup or if you're a celebrity that needs a woman to use for public appearances, you might be right. Of course, if we're talking a hookup, you probably don't even need to be attractive to the guy in question. You just need to be available for sex. If you want to do more than get fucked or make appearances, though, you'd generally be better off with a college degree than a set of plastic tits. :p
 
I would ask the women in this thread to define: handsome.
Attractive is not an adequate definition.

Is it basically just the male version of beautiful?
 
I would ask the women in this thread to define: handsome.
Attractive is not an adequate definition.

Is it basically just the male version of beautiful?

I don't equate those two words as the same thing. IMO a handsome man is not the same as what I'd regard as a beautiful man. A handsome man is good looking, or very good looking- eye catching and appealing. A beautiful man, however, is handsome but has some extra, elusive, attractive, attracting quality that just puts him out in the stratosphere beyond being just another handsome guy. A handsome man is eye candy, a beautiful man is soul shaking.

Does this help at all ?
 
A handsome man is good-looking in a rugged or manly sort of way. A beautiful man, to me, has finer features, and could pass for pretty if it wasn't a word we didn't attach to men often.
 
I would ask the women in this thread to define: handsome.
Attractive is not an adequate definition.

Is it basically just the male version of beautiful?

Women have different types of attractiveness: beauty is one thing, cuteness is different, and although the term fell out of use, decades ago people used to use the word handsome to apply to women who looked regal.

Anyway I'd agree with jadefirefly, a beautiful man has finer more feminine features, while a handsome man has heavier masculine features, and a cute man has rounder boyish features.

A lot of the men and male characters who are most widely considered attractive mix two of the types. Fabio for example has very masculine features, so he's handsome when he rolls out of bed in the morning, but it's the layer of beautiful hairstyling and makeup on top of that which boost his looks to "wildly popular model". David Bowie has features that are about 2/3 beautiful 1/3 handsome, and with different makeup and costuming he has pushed that to totally beautiful or mostly handsome for different roles. Superman (the comic version) is handsome with a touch of boyishness to make him look more honest and kind; no beauty at all because they don't want him to seem arrogant or manipulative. Orlando Bloom and Johnny Depp have features which are about 2/3 beautiful, 1/3 cute; they add a layer of scruff when they want to look more masculine and roguish, vs. longer hair and skin-smoothing makeup when they want to look more ethereal.
 
A good-looking man will never lack a partner (for sex or a relationship), just like a good-looking woman. I call shenanigans on some higher female desire for intellect or 'personality'. Good-looking guys never have a problem pulling.

I have known many "attractive" people who open their mouths and prove themselves otherwise - Victoria Silvestadt for one, David Hasselhoff for another. Be it ignorance, general stupidity, bigotry, or any one of a host of other equally distasteful traits, what is on the inside matters more to most folks than what is on the outside. Yeah, it's nice to have "pretty", but genuine depth of character will trump all else in a serious relationship. Shallow, petty people live shallow petty lives with other shallow petty people, reality tv is proof enough of this point?
 
I don't think women have different standards. I haven't read published material definitively citing this either. I could be wrong.

In my opinion, I believe that "valued attributes"; physical, mental, or of other definition, are found with equal variation between sexes. Life experiences and environments have a much greater impact on personal preference than that of a vagina.
 
When it comes to good looks? If I were to pick out ten pretty women pictures and show them to 10 men I bet all of them would agree they were pretty. But it's not that way with women. Take me for example. There are some really nice looking women who say I'm handsome. At the same time there are some who want to run for the hills when they see my picture. With women is beauty more in the eye of the beholder?

Women are more emotional and sometimes we just need a good fuck. :)
 
Well, if you're talking about a hookup or if you're a celebrity that needs a woman to use for public appearances, you might be right. Of course, if we're talking a hookup, you probably don't even need to be attractive to the guy in question. You just need to be available for sex. If you want to do more than get fucked or make appearances, though, you'd generally be better off with a college degree than a set of plastic tits. :p
maybe. but i still stand by what i think. most(not all) men dont care about your IQ...just looks and body. for me...i have to have the whole package in a man..brains and physical attraction. like some others on here..i have met some gorgeous men, til they opened their mouth.
 
maybe. but i still stand by what i think. most(not all) men dont care about your IQ...just looks and body. for me...i have to have the whole package in a man..brains and physical attraction. like some others on here..i have met some gorgeous men, til they opened their mouth.
From what I've seen hanging out with guys, it's about the same. It doesn't matter what she looks like. If she has about as much sense as Sara Palin or Paris Hilton, she'll get torn to shreds.
 
Personally, I like a man who looks a little rough around the edges. A lean, hard look. Scars, tattoos, that sort of thing.
Pretty men are good for gay fantasies, although I'm female, I just LOVE a good gay guy story, then the men can be pretty. But for my own personal use, I like a rougher appearance.
 
People make mistakes pitting physical beauty against brains, niceness, warmth, soulfulness - all the other stuff that might get you wanting to spend time with someone. It's not a "looks versus brains" issue, it's a "looks laid over brains on a venn diagram and what do you get?" issue.

Engineering departments aren't full of aspiring models groping the guys because they are not known as bastions of charm, social skill, and wit - all things that tickle our "good provider" brains as much as straight teeth, if not even more. Confident and attractive engineers do as well as confident and attractive anyone else in the dating pool.

I've never really felt like I've missed out on a GREAT guy or girl because I'm smart and all but just not quite trophy enough. The people who need more trophy and less brains than I've got to offer simply aren't ever going to be compatible with me in the first place.
 
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