Ever had to use sex to get out of trouble?

[Nasty_Deeds]

I personally know a man who, doing nothing but minding his own business, grabbed a woman on the street, pulled her back onto the sidewalk because she was about to be hit by a car... That man? He's now a registered sex offender because of that incident. He saves the woman's life by grabbing her and pulling her out of the street... and now he's a sex offender because of that situation... How stupid is that? She decided that it didn't matter that he saved her life but rather chose to file charges against him because she didn't want to be touched- and no, he did not grab her anywhere inappropriate- he just grabbed her about the shoulders and pulled her back.

This is such a vague reference, we can have no idea what may have really happened. For all we know, this man may have grabbed her; drug her into an alley and fucked the shit out of her. And then in his defense said, "Well gee, I was just trying to save her, she might have got run over by a car or something".

If it had been me, I would have probably stood there and watched her get run over. But then I am a sick bastard.

 

[Galactic_Perv]

Let’s get real folks! The world is corrupt, so let’s stop trying to turn every woman into a victim who had to give someone a blow-job that she didn’t really want to.

Let’s take a look at the original post that started this thread. Love2stroke caught his friend’s fiancé fucking around with another guy, so Love2stroke says, “give me a blow-job and I won’t tell my friend that you are fucking around on him”. And to that she answered, “OK”. So what, she gave a guy a blow-job. She knew what she was doing was wrong and got caught. This is not her first blow-job, nor will it be her last, and if she didn’t want to get caught, she shouldn’t have been fucking around on the man she is going to marry. His friend’s fiancé is a whore and she got exactly what she deserved. Love2stroke could have told his friend that his girl friend was fucking another guy, and his friend may have beat the crap out of her. How would that have been better? In my opinion, she got off light.

Very_Bad_Man cites an example of a cop who was convicted of rape after inviting a woman to a hotel. (And this happens more often to cops than you might think) She claimed that she didn’t know that he wanted sex. Do you really believe this ignorant cunt thought she was being invited to a hotel room to clean the grout in the bathroom tile? She knew exactly why she was going to that hotel room, and unless she is a total fucking retard, she knew all she had to do is say NO!! And if she was a total fucking retard, she should not have been allowed out of the house by herself anyway.

Usually when you follow up one of these cases where some cunt has filed rape charges against a person in position of authority, you will find that she filed a lawsuit at the same time. More often than not in these cases, women who cry rape aren’t victims; they are doing it for a payday! And from the beginning, they know exactly what they are doing.

If the cop had half a brain, he would have defended himself. He would have said: “Sure I went to a hotel with this woman”. She was flirting with me and told me that she had a fantasy of role-playing a prostitute turning a trick with a cop. So, I gave her a hundred bucks and we went to a hotel and fucked each other’s brains out. He should have publically branded her a prostitute and ruined her marriage and her life. In other words, he should have mother fucked her before she mother fucked him.

If you look at the jurisdictions where women get away with crying rape every time they are touched, you will find they are often very liberal jurisdictions where women have learned to use the law to get a payday. Just because a woman cries rape doesn’t mean that she is automatically a victim, just as often, they are looking for a payday. Just because a woman may look like the Virgin Mary, doesn't mean she is.

Sometimes, like right now, some people need to know when to shut the fuck up.

Under your philosophy if a woman acts slutty she is fair game to be raped and it's okay because well she is a slut.

Nobody under any circumstances should be raped or forced to have sex.

Under your philosophy anybody who ever gave a blowjob becomes fair game to be mouth fucked because well it was not her first blowjob.

I never thought anybody could be this idiotic but fella you just achieved your crowning moment.

All hail the Duke of Dunces.

Bravo.

 

[Galactic_Perv]

This is such a vague reference, we can have no idea what may have really happened. For all we know, this man may have grabbed her; drug her into an alley and fucked the shit out of her. And then in his defense said, "Well gee, I was just trying to save her, she might have got run over by a car or something".

If it had been me, I would have probably stood there and watched her get run over. But then I am a sick bastard.

You need to buy a little mini recorder and read aloud your stupidity and playback before you push the "Submit Reply" button.

 

[Nasty_Deeds]

Sometimes, like right now, some people need to know when to shut the fuck up.

Under your philosophy if a woman acts slutty she is fair game to be raped and it's okay because well she is a slut.

Nobody under any circumstances should be raped or forced to have sex.

Under your philosophy anybody who ever gave a blowjob becomes fair game to be mouth fucked because well it was not her first blowjob.

I never thought anybody could be this idiotic but fella you just achieved your crowning moment.

All hail the Duke of Dunces.

Bravo.

Let - me - guess! You are either a wannabe shyster looking for a payday at the expense of some poor sap's misery - or - you are a pussy who is afraid of his own shadow, hoping someone will protect him from the mean ole world. I'm guessing you are a pussy who is afraid of his own shadow.

How am I doing? Pretty close?

Hang in there GP, we need that fair and balanced dialog that only you are able to provide.

 

[WastelandVoice]

Well, well, well genius. Let us play by your rules. Please state the case number and provide us with a certified stenographers copy of the trial so we can render our own opinion.

Actually never mind, now your ire is all so clear. You are friends with sex offenders.

You want to see it that way and so you see it that way- Sure, I'll play by those rules....... when you, or more specifically, the poster who gave all the vague, nondescript eamples does as well. But you haven't and you won't and neither will he/she.

The oddly crazy thing here is that you and I are on the same side of this argument and yet, for some reason you want to make us enemies.

I can only say it 1,000 times but I'll say it again- Any person, man or woman, who uses their authority or a position of power for sexual gain is a bad person. A terrible person. And they should be fired, arrested, charged, etc... whatever is fitting given the case or the situation.

What I was saying, again, for the 1,000th time is that the examples that were given were vague, nondescript, and in each instance cited the woman as the instigator for sex as a bagaining chip and not the male- even though that was the point that poster was trying to make.

Really I can't explain it any clearer than that. Again. And again. And again.

 

[WastelandVoice]

This is such a vague reference, we can have no idea what may have really happened. For all we know, this man may have grabbed her; drug her into an alley and fucked the shit out of her. And then in his defense said, "Well gee, I was just trying to save her, she might have got run over by a car or something".

If it had been me, I would have probably stood there and watched her get run over. But then I am a sick bastard.

Well you do have a point- it could have happened that way and I do not know the details because I was not there so I won't really try to speak specifically about the details- but I DO trust the guy/friend involved so I will take his word for it and I have even spoken to the officer who was called to the scene and testified on his behalf- and she (SHE) did not think he did anything improper and she testified in court to that.

Shrug. I wasn't directly involved so I cite it as a passing example of how things can get turned around but if you want more info and details about it I'll certainly tell you about it (privately) because I don't want to broadcast my friend's name and his business publically on Lit.

But yes- this is getting away (again) from the original idea of the post.

 

[countryboy001]

I have to say that VBM is generally right, here, though the OP's acts may fall short of rape. Extortion (blackmail) is a serious crime, and extortion of sexual favors is very seedy indeed.

The cases cited which _did_ amount to rape seem generally to be abuses of authority, i.e. duress applied by someone in authority; this creates the equivalent of 'force,' so to say.

Wasteland and Nasty and co. do not have a leg to stand on, since they have to alter the facts, i.e that she instigated. Again, where it's an authority, the 'instigation' (by the woman) argument is frail, if not unsound. When a cop can drag you in, or charge you, your 'offer' is not exactly voluntary. And even if it was not quite rape, it's abuse of authority, cause for firing, and, likely, it's criminal extortion.

As to the supposed case of grabbing the minor's arm to save her life, that is NOT what happened in the only documented citation: http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-145307.html

The motorist swerved and missed her and was angry; then HE got out of his car and grabbed her arm, possibly to give her a good talking to, etc. That's assault. I would not want my niece grabbed by any such guy, let alone dragged aside for an angry tirade. What tends to make me *lean* toward sexual assault is that I don't think the driver would have done it to a male teen.

 

[Nasty_Deeds]

Well you do have a point- it could have happened that way and I do not know the details because I was not there so I won't really try to speak specifically about the details- but I DO trust the guy/friend involved so I will take his word for it and I have even spoken to the officer who was called to the scene and testified on his behalf- and she (SHE) did not think he did anything improper and she testified in court to that.

Shrug. I wasn't directly involved so I cite it as a passing example of how things can get turned around but if you want more info and details about it I'll certainly tell you about it (privately) because I don't want to broadcast my friend's name and his business publically on Lit.

But yes- this is getting away (again) from the original idea of the post.

What we hear or even read in the media can never be completely trusted. Even between the alleged crime, and the jury’s verdict, the truth can be lost. My point is, we are too quick to jump to a conclusion and want to punish every little infraction, particularly when it involves sex. At one point or another in our life, (except for the losers who never get laid), we are all probably guilty of rape under today’s narrow definition of rape. All of us have been with a wife, girl friend or even on a date when she initially said no, but relented and had sex anyway. If someone wanted to nit-pick the point because the initial reaction was “no”, most of us could be charged with rape. Many women could even be charged when the man initially said no but later relented.

But back to the context of the original post, which I agree, has been lost. The original poster did not ask if anyone had coerced a woman into haing sex; rather, the original question was, “Ever had to use sex to get out of trouble”? He didn’t ask if anyone had forced someone to have sex, he asked if anyone has used sex to get what they want. In this case, the woman wanted his silence and used sex to get it. She could have said “no” and walked away and that would have been the end of it, but gave him a blow job to gain his silence.

In my opinion, I think most women will use sex to get what they want. The question to the posters here, how many times have you had a woman become very amorous and loving when she wants something? The original poster wanted a blow job, and the woman wanted his silence, so the question is, who used who?

 

[Nasty_Deeds]

I have to say that VBM is generally right, here, though the OP's acts may fall short of rape. Extortion (blackmail) is a serious crime, and extortion of sexual favors is very seedy indeed.

The cases cited which _did_ amount to rape seem generally to be abuses of authority, i.e. duress applied by someone in authority; this creates the equivalent of 'force,' so to say.

Wasteland and Nasty and co. do not have a leg to stand on, since they have to alter the facts, i.e that she instigated. Again, where it's an authority, the 'instigation' (by the woman) argument is frail, if not unsound. When a cop can drag you in, or charge you, your 'offer' is not exactly voluntary. And even if it was not quite rape, it's abuse of authority, cause for firing, and, likely, it's criminal extortion.

As to the supposed case of grabbing the minor's arm to save her life, that is NOT what happened in the only documented citation: http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-145307.html

The motorist swerved and missed her and was angry; then HE got out of his car and grabbed her arm, possibly to give her a good talking to, etc. That's assault. I would not want my niece grabbed by any such guy, let alone dragged aside for an angry tirade. What tends to make me *lean* toward sexual assault is that I don't think the driver would have done it to a male teen.

You take this shit too serious.

 

[countryboy001]

Very interesting case

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/839781/posts

Here, duress was sufficient to yield rape. This fellow induced the woman to believe criminal proceedings (against her relative) were likely unless she fucked the complainant. Then he posed as the complainant.