Ferguson Neverending

[rippitydoo]

So your honest opinion is that black folks are just naturally more prone to commit crimes? Don't drink the melanin? You'll admit that they are more often killed, dead, end of story by cops even thought they make up a smaller percentage of the population, but they somehow deserve this?

I'd much appreciate it if you'd answer my questions. Thank kindly you in advance for doing so.

BL & I don't get along much, but I'll answer this one.

No, it's not the poster's opinion, nor anyone else's, but a fact.

Also a fact they are often killed by cops, probably due in large part everyone knows (I never went to the academy, but cops & I each/all have working eyes) they are more-likely to be the one (if there is one at all) committing a crime at any establishment they are inside.

Also, that fact probably in turn contributed to the fact they make up less of the population (just-as-many-if-not-more offspring, but higher percentage of those that grow up & break the law), which then leads to each of their deaths (by many different means) being covered more-filly-&-more-often by more sources/journalists/etc.

 

[Boxlicker101]

So your honest opinion is that black folks are just naturally more prone to commit crimes? Don't drink the melanin? You'll admit that they are more often killed, dead, end of story by cops even thought they make up a smaller percentage of the population, but they somehow deserve this?

I'd much appreciate it if you'd answer my questions. Thank kindly you in advance for doing so.

It's not my opinion; it's a statistical fact, borne out by every reliable agency that deals in these facts and figures. More white people than black are killed by cops, but the fraction of the white population that meets its end that way is smaller than the corresponding fraction of the black population.

FWIW, the percentage of either population is quite small, when compared with other ways of dying.

 

[Aglaopheme]

I'm trying to decipher that.......you're saying "it's a fact" that more black people commit crimes than white peoples? Correct?

 

[Boxlicker101]

I'm trying to decipher that.......you're saying "it's a fact" that more black people commit crimes than white peoples? Correct?

Not more in actual numbers, but a higher proportion of the black population when compared to the white population.

 

[Aglaopheme]

So you see this as a fact, not as a by-product of discrimination? Those darn black folks are just bad criminals?

 

[Aglaopheme]

Please just a yes or no. Pretty please with sugar on top?

 

[Aglaopheme]

I don't believe the numbers are in dispute, but the cause. I feel blacks are unjustly targeted, under represented. And you.....?

 

[Aglaopheme]

I'd even toss the "honorable" judges in there...unequally sentenced.

 

[Aglaopheme]

This is what happens when I've too much coffee and a "day off".

Where'd ya go? Don't want to state your opinion of why there's such a disparate number?

 

[Boxlicker101]

So you see this as a fact, not as a by-product of discrimination? Those darn black folks are just bad criminals?

I see it as a fact, and a well-known one. I'm sure there are a variety of reasons why it is so, and discrimination might be one of them, but it has nothing to do with me.

 

[Sean Renaud]

So you see this as a fact, not as a by-product of discrimination? Those darn black folks are just bad criminals?

If we're going by official numbers the percentages aren't really up to debate. Now we can make strong cases about when you check a certain group more than other groups you're bound to catch more people and that does seem to be the fact with drugs at the very least.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

It's tough to be a black man in A'mer-ica

And ain't you lucky to have picked the golden ticket of white skin at birth to have the privilege to snark on other people's reality like this, eh, Master Bates?

Yes, it is right... Their right to state their opinion.

Yes, their right to their opinion. Not verity.

It's not my opinion; it's a statistical fact, borne out by every reliable agency that deals in these facts and figures. More white people than black are killed by cops, but the fraction of the white population that meets its end that way is smaller than the corresponding fraction of the black population.

FWIW, the percentage of either population is quite small, when compared with other ways of dying.

Not more in actual numbers, but a higher proportion of the black population when compared to the white population.

So you see this as a fact, not as a by-product of discrimination? Those darn black folks are just bad criminals?

Please just a yes or no. Pretty please with sugar on top?

I don't believe the numbers are in dispute, but the cause. I feel blacks are unjustly targeted, under represented. And you.....?

I'd even toss the "honorable" judges in there...unequally sentenced.

Where'd ya go? Don't want to state your opinion of why there's such a disparate number?

I see it as a fact, and a well-known one. I'm sure there are a variety of reasons why it is so, and discrimination might be one of them, but it has nothing to do with me.

No, it has EVERYTHING TO DO WITH YOU. And your opinions.

It is the very reason why you keep posting in this thread with distractions. Anything to toss smokescreens in front of what is being spotlighted.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I missed the part about cops being low on the list of things that can kill you. And that's kinda sorta true. On average they kill at least 400 people a year and that's just what they admit to and sadly by law they aren't required to say shit. They quite literally are the law.

They are perhaps the top killer that we simply ignore outright. Heart attacks kill people but my goddamn Cheerios tell me how to lower my chances of that. Car accidents kill but every year (and often by law) cars become safer both by regulating behavior (seat belt laws, outlawing driving on the cell phone) and the industry (seat belts airbags), smoking kills but it's hard to get through a tv show without seeing an anti smoking ad. Terrorists barely kill anybody at all and we fling trillions of dollars at it. So that bullshit doesn't fly.

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

6/30/ 2015

The Ferguson, St. Louis County, and St. Louis police departments along with the Missouri Highway Patrol have been newly and specifically faulted for the role they played in the Ferguson protests in the 16 days after the death of Michael Brown. In a report obtained by the St. Louis Dispatch, to be delivered to police later this week, the Department of Justice finds the four agencies responsible for violating free speech, antagonizing crowds with military tactics, inciting fear and violence, withholding information, and shirking responsibility to problem solve and de-escalate


The full report is nearly 200 pages long, identifying 45 “findings” and listing “recommendations” for each. As far as law enforcement response goes, Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson has already stepped down, and the others say they can’t comment on the report until they see the full document rather than the summary.

http://jezebel.com/doj-ferguson-cops-escalated-protests-violated-right-t-1714899063

 

[Boxlicker101]

6/30/ 2015

The Ferguson, St. Louis County, and St. Louis police departments along with the Missouri Highway Patrol have been newly and specifically faulted for the role they played in the Ferguson protests in the 16 days after the death of Michael Brown. In a report obtained by the St. Louis Dispatch, to be delivered to police later this week, the Department of Justice finds the four agencies responsible for violating free speech, antagonizing crowds with military tactics, inciting fear and violence, withholding information, and shirking responsibility to problem solve and de-escalate


The full report is nearly 200 pages long, identifying 45 “findings” and listing “recommendations” for each. As far as law enforcement response goes, Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson has already stepped down, and the others say they can’t comment on the report until they see the full document rather than the summary.

http://jezebel.com/doj-ferguson-cops-escalated-protests-violated-right-t-1714899063

Let's hear it for blaming the victim!

 

[Nubian_Legend]

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[Nubian_Legend]

Black incarceration rates have steadily trended upward regardless of any crime showings, so it's fairly disingenuous argument to make.
I just don't like how people make it out to be about the market and the resources when it's white people doing it, but when it's black people it's their criminal culture/dna. Resources are important period. When white boys/men had their crime spree(gangs of new york) they were eventually allowed the opportunity to make something of themselves and their families, people came with policies and real solutions, not just finger wagging and "tough" love, with emphasis on "tough". This idea that black people, particularly men need to be controlled at every step of the way is nothing new here. It's a relic from antebellum slavery. I've already posted this stuff before, the information is available to anyone, there's no reason why people should be running around at this point with the erroneous culture argument. Fuck outta here, read a book or swallow some household solvents. I don't have time for simple dullards who can't inform themselves with facts.

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

No matter how many times it happens, no matter how many times I see the pattern repeat, I still find it incredible...


The Invisible Man: The End of A Black Life That Mattered


You may have missed the name Charly Keunang amid all the news stories of unarmed African-American men—Eric Garner, Michael Brown, Freddie Gray—killed by police. Charly was just another anonymous homeless man on the streets of L.A.'s Skid Row.

But when he was shot by LAPD this March, he became yet another dismal statistic: at least the 175th death at the hands of an officer this year. Jeff Sharlet embeds on Skid Row (a.k.a. a police "containment" zone) and re-creates a life whose only public recognition is in the tragic way that it ended.

Just past noon on March 1, 2015, three police officers shot him six times, according to the autopsy commissioned by the family. They had him pinned to the sidewalk. Several bystanders took phone videos; one posted his online.


Charly's standing in between his tent and his milk crate. He's wearing black slacks, a black hoodie with a gold pattern, and a dark cap.

As with Syed's, there is thirty seconds of silence on the copy of Martinez's body-cam video. Then we hear birds in the trees. We hear Martinez. He's a buzz-cut cop in wraparound shades, barrel-chested and barrel-bellied. He says to Charly, loudly, "You don't tell me how to do my job."

http://www.gq.com/story/skid-row-police-shooting-charly-keunang

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/...g-of-a-homeless-African-immigrant-on-Skid-Row

"It's no accident that every police shooting investigation is one giant clusterfuck in which nobody knows anything, nobody talks, nobody's seen the videos, police aren't interviewed, etc. All of this is by design and is fully intended to protect officers from the real consequences of their actions."


- Shaun King

gsgs comment-

Same, same, same...

So many different ways to tell lies, that give policemen the benefit of the doubt.

There is video, but the police tell lies to create doubt.


The facts that will not change-
He had no weapon.
He did no harm.
He is dead.

New word to add -

belligerent

/ end gsgs comment

 

[IrezumiKiss]

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So. Fucking. Tired. Of. This. Shit.

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

So fucked up, so fucked up, so fucked up

The forensic department perjured themselves.

Third death, ruled suicide.

Sarah Bland

"Knee to the neck."
"Head slammed"

The Texas State Rangers are now overseeing the investigation of Sandy Bland's death. They have not commented on the release of the arrest video, and there are thought to be other videos of the arrest, perhaps closer and from other angles.

http://abc13.com/news/new-video-shows-arrest-before-womans-jailhouse-death/855579/

In numerous emails and phone calls to the ABC7 I-Team, her friends and relatives say they do not believe the official version of what happened and say this is a case of foul play in a county with a history racial intolerance.

http://www.theroot.com/articles/new...art_a_new_job_so_how_did_she_end_up_dead.html


http://www.chicagotribune.com/subur...-death-naperville-st-0717-20150715-story.html


July 16, 2015

The woman’s family will hold a news conference in Chicago’s Loop at noon. A news release from a law firm representing the family says, “The family of Sandra Bland is confident that she was killed and did not commit suicide. The family has retained counsel to investigate Sandy’s death.”

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

Sandra Bland's death while held in Texas jail

Is the technique used by police, going viral across the United States of America?

Pulling on the head and neck of the victim while jamming their knees into the victim's back. Seeing this action repeated over and over, again.

Damaging the connection between the spinal cord and the brain ?
Crushing, mutilating,and severing.
Crushed vertebrae.
Brain stem injury.

Roadside lynching, without a rope ? This is the policeman's answer to a citizen who gets "mouthy." Permanently silenced.

Are the police joking in the locker room about snapping necks ?


One policeman used the technique on a man, then held him in a choke hold for more than a half hour. The man died.


The Brain Stem

The brain stem is located below the brain at the back of the neck and contains the vital control center of the body called the medulla oblongata. This area is a major part of the brain that is responsible for multiple automatic and involuntary functions that are necessary for life. These vital functions include the beating of the heart, respiration or breathing, blood pressure, digestion, and swallowing. The brain stem is also responsible for alertness, or the state of being conscious, and arousal.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...ail-death-met-0717-20150717-story.html#page=2

According to the 2014 U.S. Census, Waller County is 70 percent white and
In recent years, the county has been a hotbed of racial incidents and tension, activists who live and work in the region said.

There has been a long controversy stemming from county officials’ refusing to allow students at the historically black Prairie View A&M University to vote in local elections. The county made national news when a scandal erupted regarding a middle school principal who forbade his students from speaking Spanish at a school district made up mostly of Latinos.

In response to Bland’s death, the Houston chapter of the NAACP has launched its own investigation. The group plans to request an independent autopsy and request police records to determine how she died while in a jail cell with no shoestrings or a blanket, said James Douglas, president of the local chapter and a law professor at Thurgood Marshall School of Law.

“We are going to be extremely involved in making sure that justice is served in this instance,” Douglas said. “We have a lot of concerns about this situation, and no leaf will be left unturned. It doesn’t make sense that this young lady who appeared to be healthy would have reason to commit suicide. Supposedly she had some damage when she was thrown to the pavement. She may have suffered a concussion or internal brain damage. That’s what we want to make sure.”

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

The trooper has been put on desk duty during an investigation by the FBI and Texas Rangers into Sandra Bland’s death.

The DPS said the unidentified trooper "violated the department's procedures regarding traffic stops and the department's courtesy policy."

It will be interesting if this exchange has been recorded-

A friend said she called him from jail Friday night and told him her version of what happened.

"She was smoking when he pulled her over. Told her to put her cigarette out, she had an exchange of words and it just went downhill. She said he snatched her out of the window and slammed her on her face," LaVaughn Mosely said.


Sandra Bland had been harassed by the troopers and police before her death.

Little ugly secret about Ferguson- charges brought against citizens, and fines resulting, financed the police and the legal system that abused the citizens.

How far is that from the truth, in this racist, sexist Texas town ?


I will say that I had plenty of warnings from people that I knew, about where to avoid, because of police officers that were not "wholesome." Those kinds of situations are likely much worse, in 2015.

Special sarcastic thanks, to the people who decided that it was to their benefit, to add to the tensions and conflicts between citizens in this country.

I will never forget seeing a young girl (white, pretty, and blonde, with blue eyes) getting smashed in the face with a flashlight. She had the nerve to touch his flashlight, because he blinded her by shining the flashlight directly into her eyes, close to her face, in a dark parking place. She was at the driver's wheel of her car. She had followed orders. Her vehicle was at a complete stop.

8/9/74

We were gathered there, to celebrate Nixon's resignation. The police officers were there to hurt young people, because of their rage and hatred.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

#DarriusStewart - murdered by the state at 19 because of mistaken identity for OUTSTANDING WARRANTS.

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Family: Officer killed 19-year-old after mistaking him for someone else

MEMPHIS, TN (WMC) -

A teen is dead after being shot by a Memphis police officer late Friday night.

The MPD officer stopped a car for a broken headlight in the 5700 block of Winchester Road. The officer issued the driver a ticket and let him go. However, the passenger in the car had several warrants for his arrest.

Darrius Stewart, the 19-year-old passenger, was placed in the back seat of the police car to verify the warrants.

Investigators said when the officer opened the back door to handcuff Stewart, he kicked the door and attacked the officer. During the fight, Stewart grabbed the officer’s handcuffs and swung them at him. The officer grabbed his gun and shot Stewart to end the fight.

Stewart went to Regional Medical Center in critical condition where he later died.

The officer had several cuts and bruises from the fight, but he did not need to go to the hospital. He is relieved of duty pending the outcome of this investigation.

"Words can't express how I feel," Stewart's mother said. "If my son attacked this officer, why didn't he use a taser? There were two officers and only one of my son."

Family members said they want answers. They said police gave them no information about what happened to their son, but they said he did not have any warrants like police claim.

Stewart's mother said her son was detained several months ago for the same thing.

"They told him he could leave because he wasn't the one they were looking for, but to be safe, because there is someone out there with the same name and a lot of warrants," she said.

Police said Stewart had a warrant in Iowa that was believed to be for a sex offense and another warrant in Illinois. When asked why Stewart was not handcuffed, police said they do not have a policy about handcuffing people in the car.

Stewart's mother said her son was going to attend the University of Memphis in the fall. He planned to become a doctor, and he has never been arrested.

Police said they could not provide answers about the warrants at this time.

"We don't understand," aunt Terry Stewart said. "Police are supposed to serve and protect, yet society fears. I think they are hiding a lot of things."

Memphis Police said they do not know for sure if the warrants were Stewart's. They said they were able to access his name and birth date and find warrants, but were not able to access pictures from other agencies.

http://www.wsmv.com/story/29578116/man-dead-after-struggle-with-mpd-officer

 

[RjThoughts]

#DarriusStewart - murdered by the state at 19 because of mistaken identity for OUTSTANDING WARRANTS.

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Family: Officer killed 19-year-old after mistaking him for someone else

MEMPHIS, TN (WMC) -

A teen is dead after being shot by a Memphis police officer late Friday night.

The MPD officer stopped a car for a broken headlight in the 5700 block of Winchester Road. The officer issued the driver a ticket and let him go. However, the passenger in the car had several warrants for his arrest.

Darrius Stewart, the 19-year-old passenger, was placed in the back seat of the police car to verify the warrants.

Investigators said when the officer opened the back door to handcuff Stewart, he kicked the door and attacked the officer. During the fight, Stewart grabbed the officer’s handcuffs and swung them at him. The officer grabbed his gun and shot Stewart to end the fight.

Stewart went to Regional Medical Center in critical condition where he later died.

The officer had several cuts and bruises from the fight, but he did not need to go to the hospital. He is relieved of duty pending the outcome of this investigation.

"Words can't express how I feel," Stewart's mother said. "If my son attacked this officer, why didn't he use a taser? There were two officers and only one of my son."

Family members said they want answers. They said police gave them no information about what happened to their son, but they said he did not have any warrants like police claim.

Stewart's mother said her son was detained several months ago for the same thing.

"They told him he could leave because he wasn't the one they were looking for, but to be safe, because there is someone out there with the same name and a lot of warrants," she said.

Police said Stewart had a warrant in Iowa that was believed to be for a sex offense and another warrant in Illinois. When asked why Stewart was not handcuffed, police said they do not have a policy about handcuffing people in the car.

Stewart's mother said her son was going to attend the University of Memphis in the fall. He planned to become a doctor, and he has never been arrested.

Police said they could not provide answers about the warrants at this time.

"We don't understand," aunt Terry Stewart said. "Police are supposed to serve and protect, yet society fears. I think they are hiding a lot of things."

Memphis Police said they do not know for sure if the warrants were Stewart's. They said they were able to access his name and birth date and find warrants, but were not able to access pictures from other agencies.

http://www.wsmv.com/story/29578116/man-dead-after-struggle-with-mpd-officer

To those who believe that the police NEVER make mistakes like this, I can attest that they do, and often, arrest others they believe are criminals.

I was picked up twice as a teenager because I looked like a known gang member with outstanding warrents

I was stopped by police three times as an adult because I fit the descriptions of suspected burglars

 

[LadyVer]

RIP Sandra Bland.