Firefly/Serenity Revisited. OOC Thread/Casting Call.

[Vail_Indigo]

Yes, these were my thoughts too. I was thinking that perhaps the crew could run across her in Alliance custody, maybe going to or from an appeal. She would then offer them a juicy take in return for being busted loose.

That would probably nix the space pirate competition idea the others were discussing though... unless she became privy to some info while inside?

Actually, that's a really good device. Information is currency and she'll have it all. Given what a manipulative bitch she is, it's a perfect situation and resolves a number of mechanical issues

 

[Ahren1]

Yes, these were my thoughts too. I was thinking that perhaps the crew could run across her in Alliance custody, maybe going to or from an appeal. She would then offer them a juicy take in return for being busted loose.

That would probably nix the space pirate competition idea the others were discussing though... unless she became privy to some info while inside?

The issue with either is still the trust. How would she have any money after being in jail? I also don't think Mal would take it no matter how desperate they were.

Info from the inside is likely, but once again, I doubt they'd want her business and after what they did to her, I doubt she'd want to share it with them.

Trust needs to be re-established. Well... established. Perhaps she escapes and contacts them having no other choice, and they agree to help her if she helps them on a job. A job that if she pulled any funny business on, they'd make sure she dies this time. Then perhaps in the process she has a lapse of good conscience and saves their lives somehow. Then with nowhere to go they agree to take her somewhere relatively safe but within that time she sort of becomes part of the crew, much to the dismay of certain members.

I don't know, that was a bit random and doesn't make much sense, but I think I made my point. It's going to be tough to find reason for either Mal or Saffron to want to have anything to do with each other again.

 

[marauder13]

Again, you're on the same page as me. I think the issue about Miranda and the creation of Reavers should be included... at a later stage. We'll need an Alliance presence of some kind throughout the SRP and I see no reason why that writer can't switch from playing an Alliance ship's captain to an Operative at some stage in the game. The same character could even be selected to become an operative, because of the knowledge he already has about Serenity and the Tams.

Well, if you're after an Alliance presence.... I am willing to be the thorn in the side of the crew of Serenity. Particularly after they remove Miss Saffron my his custody. How does that sound?

 

[Ahren1]

Actually what I posted above reminds me of Cowboy Bebop and how Faye ended up on the ship. They find Saffron having escaped and sort of in a ship with no fuel and a bounty on her head, so what better way to get another last laugh in than turn her right back in? But on the way she ends up helping them out of a jam somehow and in return just sort of remains on their ship as if she belonged there all along.

 

[VelvetDarkness]

The issue with either is still the trust. How would she have any money after being in jail? I also don't think Mal would take it no matter how desperate they were.

Info from the inside is likely, but once again, I doubt they'd want her business and after what they did to her, I doubt she'd want to share it with them.

Trust needs to be re-established. Well... established. Perhaps she escapes and contacts them having no other choice, and they agree to help her if she helps them on a job. A job that if she pulled any funny business on, they'd make sure she dies this time. Then perhaps in the process she has a lapse of good conscience and saves their lives somehow. Then with nowhere to go they agree to take her somewhere relatively safe but within that time she sort of becomes part of the crew, much to the dismay of certain members.

I don't know, that was a bit random and doesn't make much sense, but I think I made my point. It's going to be tough to find reason for either Mal or Saffron to want to have anything to do with each other again.

Yeah, I agree that trust is a real snag. Your suggestion is a good one or at the other end of the spectrum, we could simply limit Mal's other options. If the job they were supposed to do went south and they really needed currency to get back in the air, even someone like Saffron might be given a closely supervised break. After all, better the devil you know, right?

 

[Lilybean]

The issue with either is still the trust. How would she have any money after being in jail? I also don't think Mal would take it no matter how desperate they were.

Info from the inside is likely, but once again, I doubt they'd want her business and after what they did to her, I doubt she'd want to share it with them.

Trust needs to be re-established. Well... established. Perhaps she escapes and contacts them having no other choice, and they agree to help her if she helps them on a job. A job that if she pulled any funny business on, they'd make sure she dies this time. Then perhaps in the process she has a lapse of good conscience and saves their lives somehow. Then with nowhere to go they agree to take her somewhere relatively safe but within that time she sort of becomes part of the crew, much to the dismay of certain members.

I don't know, that was a bit random and doesn't make much sense, but I think I made my point. It's going to be tough to find reason for either Mal or Saffron to want to have anything to do with each other again.

I like that actually. It would be humbling to ask for their help and if its something they really need her for..(maybe a husband of hers LOL) ..I can see it work. Even if Mal is against it, the rest of the crew could help convince him.

 

[VelvetDarkness]

Well, if you're after an Alliance presence.... I am willing to be the thorn in the side of the crew of Serenity. Particularly after they remove Miss Saffron my his custody. How does that sound?

Cool. You could also play some smaller parts, for a bit of variation. Badger, Mingo & Fanty or Mr Universe. Sky ain't even the limit.

 

[VelvetDarkness]

(maybe a husband of hers LOL)

Now that would be fun.

 

[VelvetDarkness]

Here's my Inara

http://www.picsec.com/images/6579de98ltiz5cahajxh.jpg

 

[dragonrazor]

It's pre-Serenity. They wouldn't have met him. Unless we're going ahead and saying Serenity does not happen. Which is probably the best choice, otherwise we only have a limited amount of time and flexibility.

Now what we could do is still give nod to Serenity by guiding the story toward it, albeit more slowly. Joss himself said he planned on having them discover Miranda be the Season 2 finale. We could still end up discovering Miranda, fighting the Operative and such, but things could be done differently.



That was my assumption as well. There's also this:

"On the 2007 Browncoat Cruise, Ron Glass revealed with Whedon's permission several facts about Book, including that Derrial was not the shepherd's real name, but the name of a man he had killed."

Since Operatives have no names, this could also suggest he was one as obviously after he "quits" he'd need a name.

it makes a lot of sense, if you think about it. Book knows a LOT more than any preacher should know about guns, the military, Alliance protocol, and the Parliament's Operatives than should be possible even for Alliance military.

 

[HopefulRealist]

Just checking in. :O) I have nothing useful to add right now. Maybe if Book does not have enough to do, at times (since he might end up the same way he did last time), I can jump in with a temporary passenger, or some other minor NPCs.

 

[DemonLove]

Yeah, I agree that trust is a real snag....we could simply limit Mal's other options.

Or take them away completely.

It seems that everyone wants Saffron. I'm all for it. So let's stop worrying over this idea of mutual trust between her and the crew. there need not be any.

We do not need a device that gives credence to some sudden new trust. I doubt that we would be able to find one anyway.

What we need is a crucible. We need a situation that does not allow any of the parties involved to leave. A situation from which all will emerge changed. We will have to be willing to go deeply into the hearts of our characters to find what makes them tick-and then possibly be forced to watch those workings twist like metal traveling through lava.

I've an idea for a crucible,but I'ld like to know if the concept sparks anything in any other members of our cast...

 

[VelvetDarkness]

I think we'd all like to hear your idea. It also goes without saying that in writing for Mal, you will have a great deal of influence over how things play out.

Spill.

 

[Ahren1]

Well seeing that what you said makes little sense without any context, yes, you may as well say it.

I'm not sure I'm interested in any drastic situations presenting themselves immediately before we really get a chance to do a regular story. I need to get into a character before understanding his 'heart' so to speak.

 

[dragonrazor]

In the case of Wash, I second that. It's not my normal type of character.

 

[Vail_Indigo]

I like the whole crucible idae, if you have a good specific theme in mind

 

[VelvetDarkness]

Well seeing that what you said makes little sense without any context, yes, you may as well say it.

In the interest of co-writer harmony, I think you could be a little more diplomatic.

I'm not sure I'm interested in any drastic situations presenting themselves immediately before we really get a chance to do a regular story. I need to get into a character before understanding his 'heart' so to speak.

Agreed but at the same time, it's not as though Saffron needs to be introduced in post 1.

 

[Ahren1]

True, but at the same time I'd also hate for the person playing her to wait like a month before she gets to even post. It's just at first the idea reminds me of another Firefly RP I once joined elsewhere where they decided to be clever and start us off in a very unusual situation by being in a jail. This was all original characters and it was a way to show how we'd all get on the same ship, but it ended up being very confusing and going very wrong, so I'm wary of any gimmicky things like that early in the story. Not that I can immediately compare that situation to this, since I don't know what he's talking about, but that was sort of my point.

And sorry. I have no bonus to diplomacy. Maybe during my next skill allotment.

 

[dragonrazor]

ACK....D&D REFERENCE *gets out beatdown stick*

 

[HopefulRealist]

We have not started yet. If he wishes to tell us the crucible idea, that is fine. We are just talking, right? Still, I understand the fears of the others. Part of what makes the show good is that they FLY. They have the ability to travel around.

Saffron manipulates. She pulls tricks and confidences. Sure, they do not trust her, but then we have see Mal work with people he does not trust. (That old woman who ran the world and had shot him, but then he still tried to sell the food blocks to her for instance.) I am sure that she would have popped up on the next season with some other sort of trick. Hell, she might have managed to work herself into a position of power somewhere. Maybe she is posing as someone important, and Mal agrees to keep her secret, for a cut of her take, or something. Mal does some foolish things, upon occasion.

 

[DemonLove]

We have not started yet. If he wishes to tell us the crucible idea, that is fine. We are just talking, right? Still, I understand the fears of the others. Part of what makes the show good is that they FLY. They have the ability to travel around.

Saffron manipulates. She pulls tricks and confidences. Sure, they do not trust her, but then we have see Mal work with people he does not trust. (That old woman who ran the world and had shot him, but then he still tried to sell the food blocks to her for instance.) I am sure that she would have popped up on the next season with some other sort of trick. Hell, she might have managed to work herself into a position of power somewhere. Maybe she is posing as someone important, and Mal agrees to keep her secret, for a cut of her take, or something. Mal does some foolish things, upon occasion.

They don't remain in the pressure cooker forever,just for the major scenes of one episode.

And the crucible is a ship. Half of the crew is trapped on it with Saffron, and the other half
have plan a rescue from aboard the Serenity. So,see,there is "flying".

And,yes,I do agree with you that Mal can at times be a bit of a "mark",but glance at the posts from last week and you will see that every idea involving a new Saffron mission gets shut down on the grounds of disbelief.

By the very same poster who has a problem even with this,as yet unheard, idea.

 

[SiaKlynn]

I'd also be interested in reading this crucible, so write away! The more ideas the better brainstorming we can do and the sooner we can slip into the skins of these characters.

 

[DemonLove]

Well seeing that what you said makes little sense without any context, yes, you may as well say it.

I'm not sure I'm interested in any drastic situations presenting themselves immediately before we really get a chance to do a regular story. I need to get into a character before understanding his 'heart' so to speak.

A "regular" story?

Well,the "lack of context" was quite intentional and has been doing its job thus far...

 

[marauder13]

Just an idea from the peanut gallery

For the opener, why not have the crew be at a point where they have completed a job, been paid and are having a day or two of R & R. This will give people a chance to get into character, interact a little and start forming the relationships between everyone before throwing them into the deep end, or bringing in other important individuals.

They will be in high spirits, so minimal tensions. They can be anywhere, doing anything either on the ship or a little spread out.

Anyway... just a thought for how to kick things off.

 

[HopefulRealist]

>>>>And,yes,I do agree with you that Mal can at times be a bit of a "mark",but glance at the posts from last week and you will see that every idea involving a new Saffron mission gets shut down on the grounds of disbelief.

By the very same poster who has a problem even with this,as yet unheard, idea.

I am willing to listen, but you need to stop singling out that person. It is not helpful. If you have a problem with them take it up with VelvetDarkness, or PM them, instead of calling them out in public like that. It makes me unwilling to share my own ideas, or disagree with any of yours, for fear that you will single me out as well. Now please do share your idea, but be willing to listen to what others have to say about it, without taking it as a personal attack.