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ll74 said:
Lol ...the irony of this post in regards to the other doge discoveries is hilarious.
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Yep. I rather like the confirmation from Kellogg that billions in cash did NOT go to Ukraine. And billions went to replace the end-of-life stuff we did send to Ukraine. Biden shafted Ukraine six ways to Sunday with the aid, but I guess he couldn't help himself. The grift HAD to flow
 

Reuters: US plans to urge European allies to purchase more US arms for Ukraine​

“There are a lot of options out there,” Kellogg told Reuters, also confirming that the previously Biden-approved shipments continue flowing into Ukraine. European countries might increase purchases of American weapons for Ukraine as part of Trump administration plans to maintain support for Kyiv ahead of potential peace negotiations with Moscow, Reuters reports, citing two sources “with knowledge of the matter.” US officials, including Trump’s Ukraine envoy Keith Kellogg, will discuss possible weapons purchases with European allies during the Munich Security Conference this week, according to the sources.

The plan reportedly aims to reassure Ukrainian leaders concerned about potential aid blockages under President Donald Trump, as Russian forces continue gradual advances in Ukraine’s east.

https://euromaidanpress.com/2025/02...-allies-to-purchase-more-us-arms-for-ukraine/
 
Hegseth basically.parroted.Putin's.demands and Ukraine has had nearly zero calls with 47.

So the strategy is to just give Putin everything he wants and abandon allies.
 
ll74 said:
Hegseth basically.parroted.Putin's.demands and Ukraine has had nearly zero calls with 47.

So the strategy is to just give Putin everything he wants and abandon allies.
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Tiny Peter Hegseth doesn't seem to be gaining much traction with the military he ostensibly commands, getting lackluster reviews from both the enlisted and officer ranks.

Asked by senior military commanders about policy changes and direction towards China, Hegseth spluttered some nonsense about Mexico being the "real" enemy, and preened about sending the "elite 82nd Airborne" down to the Mexican border to show how tough he and Pumpkinhead are going to be towards Spanish speaking people.

I've noticed Tiny Peter Hegseth invokes "warfighting" as an excuse to not answer questions.
 
Of course there's this.....

Zelensky's thrown this out before - either NATO or Nukes, and Ukraine is perfectly capable of building Nukes. I would say that at this point, we could very likely assume that given the swings and changes in US Policy under Biden and now Trump, Ukraine very likely has a nuclear capability program underway. They'd be silly not to.

The Future Ukrainian Nuclear Weapons Program: A Done Deal?

by Benjamin Cook​


The more it is publicly denied, the more it seems real

At this point, Ukraine's pursuit of nuclear weapons is not just possible—it is likely. The only question is when, not if. Provided the Ukrainian President Zelensky discontinues his practice of amateurish discussion of nuclear weapons with journalists in the public - it will not be a publicized program, nor will it be openly discussed beyond suggestive statements and strategic ambiguity.

But, this author is sure: one should make no mistake; in the long term Ukraine will develop a nuclear arsenal. Once the war is over, expect a policy similar to that of Israel—Ukraine will neither confirm nor deny the existence of a nuclear deterrent. During the war itself, Kyiv will continue to publicly deny any such program while privately ensuring that it is an option. From a strategic standpoint, it only makes sense. If international agreements had any real power, Ukraine would not be at war today. The Budapest Memorandum—where Ukraine gave up the third-largest nuclear arsenal in the world in exchange for security assurances—proved meaningless. Ukraine now understands the lesson that North Korea, India, and Pakistan understood long ago: nuclear weapons are the only real guarantee of security against existential threats

The Simplest Path: Plutonium from Spent Fuel
Ukraine already has one of the hardest-to-acquire resources for nuclear weapons: fissile material. The country operates multiple nuclear reactors, meaning it has access to spent nuclear fuel containing plutonium.
Plutonium extraction is not a new science. The PUREX (Plutonium Uranium Redox Extraction) process was developed decades ago and is well-documented. Any nation with nuclear scientists—Ukraine included—can theoretically extract weapons-grade plutonium from reactor waste. If Ukraine is serious about building a deterrent, this is their most direct path.
Some may argue that Ukraine lacks reprocessing facilities, but that is an outdated assumption. Modern chemical processing can be done with relatively limited infrastructure compared to Cold War-era facilities. Additionally, Ukraine’s Western allies, including countries that already possess nuclear weapons, may be willing to quietly assist in this regard—whether through technology transfer, intelligence, or overlooked "leaks" of necessary materials.

Ukraine Doesn’t Need Centrifuges to Enrich Uranium​


Much of the world thinks that centrifuge technology is required to enrich uranium into weapons-grade U-235. That is simply not true. Before gas centrifuges became the dominant method, multiple other enrichment methods existed—diffusion, laser isotope separation, and electromagnetic separation (used in the Manhattan Project). While less efficient, these methods still work and can be pursued if needed.
The reason countries prefer centrifuges is because they make enrichment faster and allow the production of larger quantities of weapons-grade material. But Ukraine does not need to mass-produce bombs. Even one or two weapons are enough for deterrence.

The Dirty Secret: Missing and Unaccounted-for Nuclear Material​


The easiest way for Ukraine to acquire weapons-grade material is not to enrich it but to receive it—or simply be allowed to “find” it.
There is a nonzero chance that this has already happened or will happen. Ukraine has well-connected allies, and some of those allies have access to nuclear material that is either deliberately provided or simply left unguarded for Ukraine to acquire.
Let’s be blunt: Russian nuclear security is not perfect. The fall of the Soviet Union led to unaccounted-for warheads and weapons-grade materials. Some of these could, in theory, already be in Ukrainian hands. The US also has missing nuclear material. And if the US and Russia do, what about France, the UK, Pakistan, India, or China? What about non-state actors?
Western governments will not publicly hand Ukraine nuclear weapons. But they do not have to. If Ukraine were to "recover" a misplaced Soviet warhead or nuclear material from a compromised facility, plausible deniability would be maintained. And if this were to happen, the international community would turn a blind eye.

The 1940s Tech Factor: Nuclear Weapons Are Not a Technological Challenge​


There is a popular misconception that nuclear weapons require cutting-edge technology. They don’t. The first nuclear bomb was built in 1945 using 1940s technology. Ukraine is a modern, industrialized country with an advanced scientific base. A determined nation-state like Ukraine could build a basic nuclear device relatively quickly if it had the right materials.
A crude nuclear bomb doesn’t have to be sophisticated. A gun-type uranium bomb like the one dropped on Hiroshima requires very little advanced engineering. The challenge is acquiring fissile material—not designing the bomb itself. Even an improvised, inefficient bomb would be enough for deterrence.

What If Ukraine Already Has a Bomb?​


If Ukraine only needed a crude nuclear device—one with an unpredictable yield—it could theoretically already have one. How? By using nuclear material derived from spent fuel.
Consider the implications: If Ukraine has already developed a basic nuclear capability, they may not use it in the traditional sense but as a last-resort deterrent. If Russia were to escalate to a full-scale, catastrophic attack, Ukraine might respond by making it clear that it has an untraceable nuclear capability. The mere belief that Ukraine has a bomb could influence Russian strategic calculations.

Could Ukraine Already Have a Crude Nuclear Weapon Inside Russia?​


Given Russia’s vast and often poorly controlled borders, there is a plausible scenario in which Ukraine has already smuggled a crude nuclear device into Russian territory. Is this a Tom Clancy novel, or just low hanging fruit for Ukrainian special services? The easiest routes for such an operation would be through Belarus or by sea.
Belarus serves as a convenient transit point due to its porous border and pro-Russian but internally corrupt security forces. Smuggling operations, even for high-value goods, are common in this region. A small, concealed nuclear device—one capable of being transported via truck or shipping container—could have entered Russia months ago.
Similarly, the maritime route offers opportunities. Russia has extensive coastal borders and a vast network of shipping operations, many of which rely on corrupt or poorly monitored customs procedures. A nuclear device could theoretically have been shipped from anywhere in the world, disguised as industrial cargo.
The implication of such a possibility is enormous: Russia’s leadership cannot be certain that they do not already have an existential threat within their own borders. If Ukraine possesses such a device, it may never need to use it—merely the fear that it exists could serve as a deterrent.

Conclusion: Ukraine’s Nuclear Path Is a Matter of When, Not If​


Ukraine’s pursuit of nuclear weapons is not a theoretical debate—it is an eventual reality. The combination of available fissile material, scientific expertise, and existential necessity makes it inevitable. Ukraine understands that international agreements mean nothing in the face of brute force. The West may not officially support Ukraine’s nuclear ambitions, but there are ways to ensure they look the other way.
If Ukraine does not develop a nuclear deterrent, it will remain at the mercy of Russia’s military might. Kyiv knows this. The world should prepare for a future where Ukraine, much like Israel, becomes a silent nuclear power.
 
ChloeTzang said:
Of course there's this.....

Zelensky's thrown this out before - either NATO or Nukes, and Ukraine is perfectly capable of building Nukes. I would say that at this point, we could very likely assume that given the swings and changes in US Policy under Biden and now Trump, Ukraine very likely has a nuclear capability program underway. They'd be silly not to.

The Future Ukrainian Nuclear Weapons Program: A Done Deal?

by Benjamin Cook​


The more it is publicly denied, the more it seems real

At this point, Ukraine's pursuit of nuclear weapons is not just possible—it is likely. The only question is when, not if. Provided the Ukrainian President Zelensky discontinues his practice of amateurish discussion of nuclear weapons with journalists in the public - it will not be a publicized program, nor will it be openly discussed beyond suggestive statements and strategic ambiguity.

But, this author is sure: one should make no mistake; in the long term Ukraine will develop a nuclear arsenal. Once the war is over, expect a policy similar to that of Israel—Ukraine will neither confirm nor deny the existence of a nuclear deterrent. During the war itself, Kyiv will continue to publicly deny any such program while privately ensuring that it is an option. From a strategic standpoint, it only makes sense. If international agreements had any real power, Ukraine would not be at war today. The Budapest Memorandum—where Ukraine gave up the third-largest nuclear arsenal in the world in exchange for security assurances—proved meaningless. Ukraine now understands the lesson that North Korea, India, and Pakistan understood long ago: nuclear weapons are the only real guarantee of security against existential threats

The Simplest Path: Plutonium from Spent Fuel
Ukraine already has one of the hardest-to-acquire resources for nuclear weapons: fissile material. The country operates multiple nuclear reactors, meaning it has access to spent nuclear fuel containing plutonium.
Plutonium extraction is not a new science. The PUREX (Plutonium Uranium Redox Extraction) process was developed decades ago and is well-documented. Any nation with nuclear scientists—Ukraine included—can theoretically extract weapons-grade plutonium from reactor waste. If Ukraine is serious about building a deterrent, this is their most direct path.
Some may argue that Ukraine lacks reprocessing facilities, but that is an outdated assumption. Modern chemical processing can be done with relatively limited infrastructure compared to Cold War-era facilities. Additionally, Ukraine’s Western allies, including countries that already possess nuclear weapons, may be willing to quietly assist in this regard—whether through technology transfer, intelligence, or overlooked "leaks" of necessary materials.

Ukraine Doesn’t Need Centrifuges to Enrich Uranium​


Much of the world thinks that centrifuge technology is required to enrich uranium into weapons-grade U-235. That is simply not true. Before gas centrifuges became the dominant method, multiple other enrichment methods existed—diffusion, laser isotope separation, and electromagnetic separation (used in the Manhattan Project). While less efficient, these methods still work and can be pursued if needed.
The reason countries prefer centrifuges is because they make enrichment faster and allow the production of larger quantities of weapons-grade material. But Ukraine does not need to mass-produce bombs. Even one or two weapons are enough for deterrence.

The Dirty Secret: Missing and Unaccounted-for Nuclear Material​


The easiest way for Ukraine to acquire weapons-grade material is not to enrich it but to receive it—or simply be allowed to “find” it.
There is a nonzero chance that this has already happened or will happen. Ukraine has well-connected allies, and some of those allies have access to nuclear material that is either deliberately provided or simply left unguarded for Ukraine to acquire.
Let’s be blunt: Russian nuclear security is not perfect. The fall of the Soviet Union led to unaccounted-for warheads and weapons-grade materials. Some of these could, in theory, already be in Ukrainian hands. The US also has missing nuclear material. And if the US and Russia do, what about France, the UK, Pakistan, India, or China? What about non-state actors?
Western governments will not publicly hand Ukraine nuclear weapons. But they do not have to. If Ukraine were to "recover" a misplaced Soviet warhead or nuclear material from a compromised facility, plausible deniability would be maintained. And if this were to happen, the international community would turn a blind eye.

The 1940s Tech Factor: Nuclear Weapons Are Not a Technological Challenge​


There is a popular misconception that nuclear weapons require cutting-edge technology. They don’t. The first nuclear bomb was built in 1945 using 1940s technology. Ukraine is a modern, industrialized country with an advanced scientific base. A determined nation-state like Ukraine could build a basic nuclear device relatively quickly if it had the right materials.
A crude nuclear bomb doesn’t have to be sophisticated. A gun-type uranium bomb like the one dropped on Hiroshima requires very little advanced engineering. The challenge is acquiring fissile material—not designing the bomb itself. Even an improvised, inefficient bomb would be enough for deterrence.

What If Ukraine Already Has a Bomb?​


If Ukraine only needed a crude nuclear device—one with an unpredictable yield—it could theoretically already have one. How? By using nuclear material derived from spent fuel.
Consider the implications: If Ukraine has already developed a basic nuclear capability, they may not use it in the traditional sense but as a last-resort deterrent. If Russia were to escalate to a full-scale, catastrophic attack, Ukraine might respond by making it clear that it has an untraceable nuclear capability. The mere belief that Ukraine has a bomb could influence Russian strategic calculations.

Could Ukraine Already Have a Crude Nuclear Weapon Inside Russia?​


Given Russia’s vast and often poorly controlled borders, there is a plausible scenario in which Ukraine has already smuggled a crude nuclear device into Russian territory. Is this a Tom Clancy novel, or just low hanging fruit for Ukrainian special services? The easiest routes for such an operation would be through Belarus or by sea.
Belarus serves as a convenient transit point due to its porous border and pro-Russian but internally corrupt security forces. Smuggling operations, even for high-value goods, are common in this region. A small, concealed nuclear device—one capable of being transported via truck or shipping container—could have entered Russia months ago.
Similarly, the maritime route offers opportunities. Russia has extensive coastal borders and a vast network of shipping operations, many of which rely on corrupt or poorly monitored customs procedures. A nuclear device could theoretically have been shipped from anywhere in the world, disguised as industrial cargo.
The implication of such a possibility is enormous: Russia’s leadership cannot be certain that they do not already have an existential threat within their own borders. If Ukraine possesses such a device, it may never need to use it—merely the fear that it exists could serve as a deterrent.

Conclusion: Ukraine’s Nuclear Path Is a Matter of When, Not If​


Ukraine’s pursuit of nuclear weapons is not a theoretical debate—it is an eventual reality. The combination of available fissile material, scientific expertise, and existential necessity makes it inevitable. Ukraine understands that international agreements mean nothing in the face of brute force. The West may not officially support Ukraine’s nuclear ambitions, but there are ways to ensure they look the other way.
If Ukraine does not develop a nuclear deterrent, it will remain at the mercy of Russia’s military might. Kyiv knows this. The world should prepare for a future where Ukraine, much like Israel, becomes a silent nuclear power.
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The "Ukraine is going to build a dirty bomb" narrative is complete Russia propaganda .
 
ll74 said:
The "Ukraine is going to build a dirty bomb" narrative is complete Russia propaganda .
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At this point I would question that. It'd make sense for them to do it if Trump actually does stab them in the back and no NATO or no boots on the ground as a guarantee against further Russian aggression.
 

The reality of Ukraine’s impersonal, sci-fi drone war​

This is 21st-century warfare. And in the end, this is why whatever Trump says or negotiates is largely irrelevant unless Ukraine agrees. It's a drone war now - armor and IFV's are useful, so is artillery, but drones a responsible for 30% of the kills now and that percentage is increasing.

"The enemy, which has many-fold superiority in equipment and personnel, has been stopped on the battlefield thanks to the active use of unmanned systems,” Fedorenko tells me. “More than 30 per cent of all enemy forces destroyed on the battlefield have been destroyed by drones alone. If it were not for the drones the enemy would have had much more success on the battlefield.” Drones have transformed the battle space in Ukraine, giving Kyiv a cheap and effective tool to target and, in some cases, repel the enemy. Before the full-scale Russian invasion in 2022, Ukraine had almost no drone production capability. Three years later it can make 4 million drones annually.

This article is really worth a read. It brings the reality of drone warfare home.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-02...04875112?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
 
ChloeTzang said:
At this point I would question that. It'd make sense for them to do it if Trump actually does stab them in the back and no NATO or no boots on the ground as a guarantee against further Russian aggression.
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Noone within the Ukraine government has indicated they have any interest. This is purely Russian propaganda.
 
ChloeTzang said:
At this point I would question that. It'd make sense for them to do it if Trump actually does stab them in the back and no NATO or no boots on the ground as a guarantee against further Russian aggression.
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🙄

Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang is sooooo close to “getting it”…

😑

President Musk (and DonOld, etc) ARE PUTIN’S PUPPETS, and they ARE TRAITORS TO THE UNITED STATES AND UKRAINE.

Hope that ^ helps.

👍

👉 Chloe “ Chicongo” Tzang 🤣

🇺🇸
 
ChloeTzang said:
Of course they wouldn't. Just like Israel and just like South Africa....
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🙄

Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang is attempting to deflect and distract from the FACT that President Musk (and DonOld, etc) are Putin’s Puppets and TRAITORS to the United States - even as they betray NATO, and Ukraine (and Taiwan).

And Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang SUPPORTED / SUPPORTS President Musk (and DonOld, etc)

Shame.

Disgrace.

👎

👉 Chloe “Chicongo” Tzang 🤣

🇺🇸

Side note:

We. Told. Them. So.

🌷
 
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...rainians-react-to-donald-trumps-call-to-putin

From the article:

On a crisp and sunny winter’s day in Kyiv on Thursday, the mood was dark. “I feel disappointed and angry. There is no certainty that this war will end for us, because Trump does not perceive us as an equal party in these negotiations,” said Oleksii, a 34-year-old working for an IT company.

Serhii, a 39-year-old soldier who was on leave from the frontline, said he had little confidence in Trump to do a deal advantageous to Ukraine: “We saw how he was during his first presidency … Putin’s doormat,” he said.

😳

😑

🤬

We. Told. Them. So.

🌷
 
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